Charges Against Cash "Hair" Wheeler Dropped. (P60)

[polarbearpete]

May 15, 2024 7:14:07 GMT -5 dynamitekidd said:

May 14, 2024 22:27:13 GMT -5 Celexa Bliss said:

There's gotta be on in every thread, huh?

Some people may retract, most won't. Fact is, even if the incident isn't as serious as initially believed, a road rage incident of some kind happened and he apparently worked and travelled for almost a month with an active warrant. It's not unreasonable to feel that just based on that, that some sort of punishment, possibly being fired, was deserved.

Idk, the police don’t call you up and tell you that a warrant is out on you, that’s not how it works. He might not have known until later on. So firing him for that would have been very unreasonable. Charges are dropped. Bunch of people here judged and covicted him here and passed down their criminal expertise and were wrong. It’s pretty simple, no need to still look for a reason to criminalize the guy.

Dropping charges does not mean nothing happened though, if that’s the implication here. There’s a high bar for a criminal conviction and if the witness/victim no longer wanted to testify/cooperate then there’s not much else that can be done.

[sdoyle7798]

May 15, 2024 9:43:19 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

May 15, 2024 7:14:07 GMT -5 dynamitekidd said:

Idk, the police don’t call you up and tell you that a warrant is out on you, that’s not how it works. He might not have known until later on. So firing him for that would have been very unreasonable. Charges are dropped. Bunch of people here judged and covicted him here and passed down their criminal expertise and were wrong. It’s pretty simple, no need to still look for a reason to criminalize the guy.

Dropping charges does not mean nothing happened though, if that’s the implication here. There’s a high bar for a criminal conviction and if the witness/victim no longer wanted to testify/cooperate then there’s not much else that can be done.

It also doesn't mean something happened as well.

[Final Countdown Jones]

May 15, 2024 7:53:47 GMT -5 bearned said:

May 14, 2024 14:16:45 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I mean, I'm not retracting anything because I still firmly believe that not bothering to give the company a heads-up about it should still itself be a firable offense.

“I feel like if Cash actually wrestles at All In at this point it needs to go from, "Tony is a bitch," to, "Tony is disgusting f***ing filth."

Probably a bit of an overreaction given how this has all panned out….

Letting a guy with firearms charges (who never communicated he had them to the company) stick around on TV and go do the big UK show is kind of f***ign shitty, yeah, It's not about how things panned out now, it's about the diligence at the time to handle that situation in the moment. One of the things I will give WWE is that if you get charges or something against you, they'll take you off TV, promise to stand with you if they turn out to not be true, but still have you lie low for the time being. It's a caution that Tony should probably look into exercising.

[polarbearpete]

May 15, 2024 10:02:09 GMT -5 sdoyle7798 said:

May 15, 2024 9:43:19 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Dropping charges does not mean nothing happened though, if that’s the implication here. There’s a high bar for a criminal conviction and if the witness/victim no longer wanted to testify/cooperate then there’s not much else that can be done.

It also doesn't mean something happened as well.

Sure, and people are free to believe what they want based on what we’ve heard/seen. Just saying the dropping of charges is not necessarily an “I told you so” moment.

[Pure Fusion Jesse Walsh]

His hair should get a separate prison sentence.

[The Captain]

The court of public opinion is going to be free to believe what it wants to believe. The American court system ideally operates on the presumption of innocence and at the last minute, it seems like the prosecutors didn't have the evidence or corroborated testimony to say otherwise. So charges were ultimately dropped.

Does this mean nothing definitely happened? No. It just means Cash is a very lucky man; either because he's an innocent man who was the victim of a spiteful driver whose scheme didn't work out or because he did something really stupid but there was no real evidence to nail him on it.

[bearned]

May 15, 2024 10:07:47 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

May 15, 2024 7:53:47 GMT -5 bearned said:

“I feel like if Cash actually wrestles at All In at this point it needs to go from, "Tony is a bitch," to, "Tony is disgusting f***ing filth."

Probably a bit of an overreaction given how this has all panned out….

Letting a guy with firearms charges (who never communicated he had them to the company) stick around on TV and go do the big UK show is kind of f***ign shitty, yeah, It's not about how things panned out now, it's about the diligence at the time to handle that situation in the moment. One of the things I will give AEW is that if you get charges or something against you, they'll take you off TV, promise to stand with you if they turn out to not be true, but still have you lie low for the time being. It's a caution that Tony should probably look into exercising.

We really have no idea what sort of process they went through in deciding to allow him to wrestle but clearly the decision was totally justified as the case has been dropped. Also at no time was he banned by the court from traveling overseas and I assume he had no previous record of being involved in anything like this before. So you are going to remove a guy from the biggest show in the company’s history over something that has ultimately been thrown out of court.

Could this have turned out another way? Maybe. But it didn’t,

[polarbearpete]

May 15, 2024 12:07:30 GMT -5 bearned said:

May 15, 2024 10:07:47 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Letting a guy with firearms charges (who never communicated he had them to the company) stick around on TV and go do the big UK show is kind of f***ign shitty, yeah, It's not about how things panned out now, it's about the diligence at the time to handle that situation in the moment. One of the things I will give AEW is that if you get charges or something against you, they'll take you off TV, promise to stand with you if they turn out to not be true, but still have you lie low for the time being. It's a caution that Tony should probably look into exercising.

We really have no idea what sort of process they went through in deciding to allow him to wrestle but clearly the decision was totally justified as the case has been dropped. Also at no time was he banned by the court from traveling overseas and I assume he had no previous record of being involved in anything like this before. So you are going to remove a guy from the biggest show in the company’s history over something that has ultimately been thrown out of court.

Could this have turned out another way? Maybe. But it didn’t,

People get suspended pending the disposition of criminal charges against them all the time in the employment realm, and sometimes the charges are dropped.

[Final Countdown Jones]

May 15, 2024 12:07:30 GMT -5 bearned said:

May 15, 2024 10:07:47 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Letting a guy with firearms charges (who never communicated he had them to the company) stick around on TV and go do the big UK show is kind of f***ign shitty, yeah, It's not about how things panned out now, it's about the diligence at the time to handle that situation in the moment. One of the things I will give AEW is that if you get charges or something against you, they'll take you off TV, promise to stand with you if they turn out to not be true, but still have you lie low for the time being. It's a caution that Tony should probably look into exercising.

We really have no idea what sort of process they went through in deciding to allow him to wrestle but clearly the decision was totally justified as the case has been dropped. Also at no time was he banned by the court from traveling overseas and I assume he had no previous record of being involved in anything like this before. So you are going to remove a guy from the biggest show in the company’s history over something that has ultimately been thrown out of court.

Could this have turned out another way? Maybe. But it didn’t,

Unless you're arguing from the position that Tony Khan has precognitive powers, I don't see what peoples' opinions nine months ago of the reasonable response to a wrestler being arrested nine months ago have to do with the developments in the case today. Like you're specifically trucking out the views at the time about how Tony should handle this until it's resolved, how it has now turned out does not make people wrong nine months ago in how they think an arrest for gun charges should be handled.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

I think insisting on Cash being the scum of the earth and insisting he should be gone in light of what we actually know is a f***ing weird hill to die on.

[Mecca]

May 15, 2024 13:30:03 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

I think insisting on Cash being the scum of the earth and insisting he should be gone in light of what we actually know is a f***ing weird hill to die on.

It's extremely weird, it's not like he has an entire history of being a shithead or anything.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

it's funnier that the charges got dropped after all this, to me. That's how all these things should be graded, whether it's funnier to you or not. Not you as in the royal you, you as in specifically me

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

May 15, 2024 13:35:54 GMT -5 Mecca said:

May 15, 2024 13:30:03 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

I think insisting on Cash being the scum of the earth and insisting he should be gone in light of what we actually know is a f***ing weird hill to die on.

It's extremely weird, it's not like he has an entire history of being a shithead or anything.

Ok but being a shithead and being a criminal are two different things. And I'm sorry, if the only evidence is another guy making a complaint after the fact with no eye witnesses that doesn't exactly scream guilty to me. Maybe he did do it, maybe this other guy was feeling vindictive and made it up. It just seems weird to me to continue hammering on a dude with such flimsy evidence that even prosecutors decided wasn't worth pursuing.

[Gawk Rivers]

If you're looking for trouble his bite *is* worse than his bark but can one prosecute on just a bark? 🤔

[Denny Zen is Cooking™]

I don't think that it is responsible to look at this as a binary "something happened" versus "nothing happened" situation.

There was obviously a road rage incident, and the prosecuting witness obviously felt as if it was serious enough to justify swearing a criminal warrant against Cash. At least initially, the prosecutors felt that there was enough there to indict. Seemingly, as the discovery process played out, it became clear that the prosecutors did not believe that they were going to be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Cash was guilty of a criminal offense, so the criminal charges were dropped. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's a perfectly fair discussion to question whether Cash should have been appearing on television while the process played out, but beyond that, no one should really have any opinion regarding Cash's level of culpability for being indicted in the first place because we, quite simply, do not have enough information and he was not ultimately convicted of a crime.

[A Little Doo Doo]

May 15, 2024 13:40:32 GMT -5 Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! said:

May 15, 2024 13:35:54 GMT -5 Mecca said:

It's extremely weird, it's not like he has an entire history of being a shithead or anything.

Ok but being a shithead and being a criminal are two different things. And I'm sorry, if the only evidence is another guy making a complaint after the fact with no eye witnesses that doesn't exactly scream guilty to me. Maybe he did do it, maybe this other guy was feeling vindictive and made it up. It just seems weird to me to continue hammering on a dude with such flimsy evidence that even prosecutors decided wasn't worth pursuing.

My dad is both, though!

[Oak: Certified Jade Hater]

I just like Cash and prefer him over Dax. That’s my big contribution to today.

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

This is very Dax:

["Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik]

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May 15, 2024 21:20:18 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

This sets up the America's Most Wanted Tag Team feud really well