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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2023 7:45:20 GMT -5
Thinking about my boy Joe Gacy (and not just because of his dreamy big blue eyes, or how that time he wore white wrestling undies made it look like he had a big ol diapey) and how even though he survived the latest NXT cuts, it’s probably soon game over for him. He started off with the attire/persona of his sludgy shitsauce indy days, then moved on to the evil ‘safe space’ guy, and then to general dark spooky cult leader guy, and now nothing. I also don’t know if he ever beat the Bray Wyatt knockoff accusations, especially since he started the mysterious stuff with Harland very soon after his fake woke gimmick, is a tatted husky guy, and had/has an atypical and ethereal entrance song about love. His stable, (The) Schism might have been the worst of all time. No title wins, no consequential wins, and gone in about a year with two of the guys asking for their releases just a few months in. They had a neat look and presentation (even their catchphrase, Four Roots, One Tree, was pretty badass). But that was literally it. Vague spooky stuff didn’t catch on like the more memorable gimmicks like Tony D and Stacks, Chase U, et al. Maybe if Ava becomes a big name in the future, people will look back at her time in a the group as a cool piece of trivia, like Dolph as Nicky and Bray as Husky Harris. They did look really cool tho. Honestly I might keep my eyes on Schism shirts going on clearance so I can get one or three of them to commemorate their group’s mediocrity for years to come. Though I don’t think they will be as memable as Rick Vi(c/k)tor’s hairline, Dante Dash’s gigantic thighs and other body part, Buck Dixon’s melty torso, or Buddy Stetcher’s stretchmarks, I feel like the original shorn, smooth scrotal looks of Rip Fowler and Jagger Reid (seriously, who tf chose those names?) will be a good joke to call back to in a year or two. Truly, Schism might be the worst ‘official’ stable that the audience was supposed to take seriously, ever. Obviously I’m not counting The JOB Squad, Right to Censor, Spirit Squad, 3MB, etc. because they were supposed to be jokes and succeeded in having memorable moments. What are your thoughts? Which stable is the worst in WWE history?
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 22, 2023 7:53:32 GMT -5
My primary hope is just that Gacy in whatever form he takes keeps his theme because it's a banger that they can't possibly hope to top.
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Post by karl100589 on Oct 22, 2023 7:54:38 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 22, 2023 7:58:46 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
It's weird how when they were loose allies Sheamus, Barrett, and Miro were a blast together, but soon as they made it official and added Alberto to it it suuuuuuuuuuucked. At least we got TV Champion Rusev out of it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 22, 2023 7:58:54 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
That's I think how most of them have talked about this since then, that they were totally happy to put over Roman and that they know that's a reality of many heel stables (think like Dungeon of Doom), but that it was a missed opportunity to basically ONLY exist for that purpose. Like, you know it was a misfire when even the kayfabe given reason Lana never accompanied them was given in a post-mortem interview with Michael Cole where she painted the group as the boys doing something on a whim and her deciding it was foolishness she'd not have any part of.
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Post by The Gallus Mark on Oct 22, 2023 8:12:19 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
Hey, they went 1-0 at Wrestlemania to get heat and keep my guys from ever actually winning a damn Mania match as a group
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Oct 22, 2023 8:12:55 GMT -5
Schism had something going when Gacy was doing like a cult-ier version of the Right To Censor with some Waylon Mercy sprinkled into it. Then HBK just lost focus so far as writing them, and they gradually turned into a C-tier Impact style stable of warm bodies (think DCC and James Storm’s “Revolution”) for NXT babyfaces to clap.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 22, 2023 8:29:53 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
It's weird how when they were loose allies Sheamus, Barrett, and Miro were a blast together, but soon as they made it official and added Alberto to it it suuuuuuuuuuucked. At least we got TV Champion Rusev out of it. And a legitimately cool Bray Wyatt and Roman Reigns moment to end a match.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 22, 2023 8:31:16 GMT -5
I know the pieces fit!
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Post by 4real on Oct 22, 2023 8:41:34 GMT -5
Think it could have had potential if they didn’t take one of the best tag teams in the world (one of them imo one of the best mic workers as well) and completely take away everything people liked about them. And then push dull, boring, bland Gallus over them too.
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Post by msc on Oct 22, 2023 8:44:49 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
It's weird how when they were loose allies Sheamus, Barrett, and Miro were a blast together, but soon as they made it official and added Alberto to it it suuuuuuuuuuucked. At least we got TV Champion Rusev out of it. It's really difficult to boo a heel faction where three quarters of them call themselves the Lads.
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 22, 2023 10:03:45 GMT -5
Nothing can top the outright bad execution of virtually everything from the likes of Retribution, but Schism made a noble effort.
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Post by darbus alan on Oct 22, 2023 10:10:45 GMT -5
Retribution and La Familia are the worst I've ever seen as far as the main roster goes.
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 22, 2023 10:29:47 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
Hey, they went 1-0 at Wrestlemania to get heat and keep my guys from ever actually winning a damn Mania match as a group The fact that Big E never got to win at Mania is tragic.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 22, 2023 10:36:32 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
It's weird how when they were loose allies Sheamus, Barrett, and Miro were a blast together, but soon as they made it official and added Alberto to it it suuuuuuuuuuucked. At least we got TV Champion Rusev out of it. Don't forget the New Day match that lead to the best ms paint pic we've ever had.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Oct 22, 2023 10:36:43 GMT -5
Their t-shirt was awesome though.
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Post by darbus alan on Oct 22, 2023 11:54:49 GMT -5
Oh and while they were great in terms of kayfabe and led to some great things like Bryan's big Wrestlemania moment and the rise of the Shield as main eventers, the Authority was just miserable to watch week to week.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Oct 22, 2023 11:56:28 GMT -5
Yeah, not even close to the worst stable ever.
One thing that that didn't help them is the fatigue of cult stables in general. I feel like I could go a long while without seeing another wrestling cult.
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Post by ayumidah on Oct 22, 2023 12:25:05 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
It's weird how when they were loose allies Sheamus, Barrett, and Miro were a blast together, but soon as they made it official and added Alberto to it it suuuuuuuuuuucked. At least we got TV Champion Rusev out of it. Yeah I was going to say when it was just Rusev, Sheamus and Barrett, it had some potential, but it all went to hell quickly lol
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Post by Schizo on Oct 22, 2023 13:43:29 GMT -5
Lets get this one out the way first. I know "evil foreigner" is a traditional wrestling trope but they weren't even trying. The fact their existence was solely to try and get babyface Roman over just makes things worse.
How cute looks like sheamus and rusev are holding hands
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