Ric Flair was All Elite: Not any more.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Nov 4, 2023 14:15:11 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Nov 4, 2023 13:36:41 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

AEW wins the first ever Slapjack Award.

How dare you Besmirch the name of Hollywood Slapjack.

We have/had the Golden Snowcone's... >->

I don't remember if EoE: Well There's Your Problem had like an overall worst category like the Gooker.

“Most Embarrassing Moment” usually ended up being the “This bad real-life thing happened and I hate it” award for those.

[sfvega]

I haven't really watched AEW in two months, but this is still very disappointing. I get bringing him in a few times as a favor to Sting; who doesn't forget what people do for him even if they are sleazy, reprehensible people. But multi-year? Pretty gross. Very hard for me to trust Tony's judgement at this point.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

2 days late as I been working crazy but what the f*** is TK thinking

Bozo the clown

[markymark]

Nov 4, 2023 16:04:05 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Nov 4, 2023 14:15:11 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

How dare you Besmirch the name of Hollywood Slapjack.

We have/had the Golden Snowcone's... >->

I don't remember if EoE: Well There's Your Problem had like an overall worst category like the Gooker.

“Most Embarrassing Moment” usually ended up being the “This bad real-life thing happened and I hate it” award for those.

Most embarrasing moment will now be NWA losing their tv deal because of the cocaine spot lol

[Kalmia]

I didn't realise it was the weekend of the Saudi show so between the blood money PPV and AEW signing Flair, it's a bad few days to be a wrestling fan. It's also a timely reminder to not expect morals from pro wrestling companies when they think there is money to be made.

[Schizo]

Nov 4, 2023 18:54:27 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

I didn't realise it was the weekend of the Saudi show so between the blood money PPV and AEW signing Flair, it's a bad few days to be a wrestling fan. It's also a timely reminder to not expect morals from pro wrestling companies when they think there is money to be made.

Well not bad for this wrestling fan, I just watched a fantastic ppv from WWE today

[Kalmia]

Nov 4, 2023 19:44:56 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Nov 4, 2023 18:54:27 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

I didn't realise it was the weekend of the Saudi show so between the blood money PPV and AEW signing Flair, it's a bad few days to be a wrestling fan. It's also a timely reminder to not expect morals from pro wrestling companies when they think there is money to be made.

Well not bad for this wrestling fan, I just watched a fantastic ppv from WWE today

If you're cool with WWE accepting money for those shows, then good for you. I'd suggest reading up on what the Saudi shows are actually promoting as I'm sure the board rules mean I can't get into it.

[Schizo]

Nov 4, 2023 19:51:35 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

Nov 4, 2023 19:44:56 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Well not bad for this wrestling fan, I just watched a fantastic ppv from WWE today

If you're cool with WWE accepting money for those shows, then good for you. I'd suggest reading up on what the Saudi shows are actually promoting as I'm sure the board rules mean I can't get into it.

I don’t really care for the behind the screens political mumble jumble that goes on with these events. As a fan, I just mainly care about the on scenes product and imo, WWE delivered tonight. And the way I see it, Iam sure there are alot of Saudi WWE fans who are thrilled to get WWE once or twice a year so they can watch live as a fan. Why robbed them of that?

[Kalmia]

Nov 4, 2023 20:01:49 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Nov 4, 2023 19:51:35 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

If you're cool with WWE accepting money for those shows, then good for you. I'd suggest reading up on what the Saudi shows are actually promoting as I'm sure the board rules mean I can't get into it.

I don’t really care for the behind the screens political mumble jumble that goes on with these events. As a fan, I just mainly care about the on screen product and imo, WWE delivered tonight. And the way I see it, Iam sure there are alot of Saudi WWE fans who are thrilled to get WWE once or twice a year so they can watch live as a fan. Why robbed them of that?

I'd be all in (no pun intended) on WWE doing a show in Saudi Arabia on their own initiative for the fans. Taking money from the government to promote the county and sportswash the human rights issues is something completely different.

Now I'm going to back away from this conversation because it's not only skirting close to the board rules, but it is pulling this thread off topic.

[The Ichi]

"Political mumbo jumbo".

[The Captain]

Nov 4, 2023 18:54:27 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

I didn't realise it was the weekend of the Saudi show so between the blood money PPV and AEW signing Flair, it's a bad few days to be a wrestling fan. It's also a timely reminder to not expect morals from pro wrestling companies when they think there is money to be made.

Pretty sad time for wrestling when Ric Flair being signed to a company is only the second most morally abhorrent thing to happen this week.

[Fade]

Nov 4, 2023 16:23:32 GMT -5 sfvega said:

I haven't really watched AEW in two months, but this is still very disappointing. I get bringing him in a few times as a favor to Sting; who doesn't forget what people do for him even if they are sleazy, reprehensible people. But multi-year? Pretty gross. Very hard for me to trust Tony's judgement at this point.

It says a lot about tony. That he doesn’t care, or believe there is no merit, to the “lots of elders..” complaint. That he’s just as much a hypocrite as anyone else when it comes to “progressive values” and, that ultimately, he really is a mark,

Cause as others have said Flair brings little to no value for a span of 2 years. Best case scenario? He’s just a really good friend to Ric. And that’s worked out so well for others in the past.

that’s not even touching the “bitch” complaints, good lord.

[Chuck Conry]

We might get a nice AEW Ric Flair figure from this..but those can be hit and miss.

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Nov 4, 2023 20:01:49 GMT -5 Schizo said:

Nov 4, 2023 19:51:35 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

If you're cool with WWE accepting money for those shows, then good for you. I'd suggest reading up on what the Saudi shows are actually promoting as I'm sure the board rules mean I can't get into it.

I don’t really care for the behind the screens political mumble jumble that goes on with these events. As a fan, I just mainly care about the on scenes product and imo, WWE delivered tonight. And the way I see it, Iam sure there are alot of Saudi WWE fans who are thrilled to get WWE once or twice a year so they can watch live as a fan. Why robbed them of that?

This is what actually white knighting for a company looks like, just throwing that out there

You could at the very least be slightly aware that coming in here and trying to defend the Saudi WWE show because "It was good" while ignoring everything else wasn't exactly the best idea

Trying to downplay why people hate the show and the entire reason people hate the Saudi Arabia deal isn't it dude. You aren't gonna win anyone over with this kind of rhetoric. Enjoy WWE, no one's stopping you, trying to go to bat on them when it isn't even the WWE Board let alone calling Saudi stuff "Political mumble jumble" is just... bad. Like that is just complete ignorance to try and argue a point that doesn't need to be argued, at all.

All that aside, Logan Paul also won a title on that same show, and that also made this week even worse for me personally tbh.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Whenever someone tries to frame "running propaganda shows that explicitly happen with the intended goal of painting Saudi Arabia in a different light and often act as straight-up tourism ads is bad" arguments as "Saudi Arabian WWE fans don't deserve shows" I throw up in my mouth a little bit. But I guess it's a good temperature check on the reasons why a lot of crowds are going to cheer for Ric Flair week after week.

[King Devitt and the Woke Mob]

Ay yi yi the worm is turning.

[Tiger Millionaire]

Most people on this board don't fall into this category, but wrestling fans are always wrestling fans, and if you give them what they want, they tend to ignore the bad stuff. It's been going on forever; if AEW signed Ric Flair two years ago, it's not met with the same reaction, and the Saudi shows somehow got less offensive once it couldn't be used as something to ding Vince for, who, for all his faults that people knew for years; had the biggest fault of being a bad booker.

[DrBackflipsHoffman]

they will eventually have to make an example of somebody for collaborating with the state over these immoral wrestling events and throw them in jail for an unfair amount of time in a maximum security prison and that person IMO should be? The Miz

[markymark]

Following the news of his multi-year deal with AEW, Ric Flair has been making the media rounds talking about the deal and his energy drink.

Flair on Woooo! Energy Drink being the official sponsor for AEW:

"It's a big deal because once it's seen on national TV, it's a whole different complexion. It's worldwide. I mean, those guys did 81,000 People in Wembley Stadium and they're going back in August, hopefully me with them, but we have a chance to help promote the drink in Europe and all over."

If he’s going to be on AEW TV on a weekly basis:

"I don't know. I mean, we've got a structured deal in place, but you know me. Have gun will travel if they need me. I'm available and they will always treat me fair. We all want to be together for the show and the guys were great. People were friendly. At my age, the world of jealousy has never been bigger. You don't think there's a lot of jealous people that I'm back on TV? You're out of your mind. You know that adage that you want to see somebody do good, but not too good."

On what he feel Sting’s legacy is in wrestling:

"Oh God, his legacy is unscathed. I mean, he's done everything you ever wanted to do and he's always been, as I said, from the bottom of my heart, there's not a nicer guy. The two nicest guys in the history of the business, and it's hard to be nice all the time, are he and Ricky steamboat. I've never even seen Sting have a crossword with anybody. He may have had periods of frustration as we all do, but I can never remember him complaining.

On who he would like to work with:

"I would love to manage Andrade. The one thing I want to do is to be a heel and have a conversation with MJF, a promo battle.”

If Ric Flair is going to have another last match:

"Well, you know I'm up for it, but they won't let that happen."

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[Nosnorb]

"It's a big deal because once it's seen on national TV, it's a whole different complexion. It's worldwide. I mean, those guys did 81,000 People in Wembley Stadium and they're going back in August, hopefully me with them, but we have a chance to help promote the drink in Europe and all over."

Ric, I don't think you should be allowed on a plane again, for a number of easily understandable reasons.

"I don't know. I mean, we've got a structured deal in place, but you know me. Have gun will travel if they need me"

Ric, that's the gimmick of FTR Hair, stop stealing. Though you signing did take a lot of attention off him.

"The one thing I want to do is to be a heel and have a conversation with MJF, a promo battle.”

I doubt TBS would want a live murder broadcast.

"Well, you know I'm up for it, but they won't let that happen."

See above why Tony won't let you wrestle.