Ric Flair was All Elite: Not any more.

[Push R Truth]

We are totally getting Flair vs Sting.

Strap yourselves in my friends.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Nov 2, 2023 15:02:11 GMT -5 Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite said:

Nov 2, 2023 14:56:34 GMT -5 Mecca said:

Man this is the long game for Tony to poach Charlotte.

If that was the actual plan I wouldn't even be mad.

It's not confirmed, but on Madusa's podcast in the last 7 days or so she said Charlotte just signed a new five year deal. If that's the case, I don't think there's a chance she goes to AEW. I know Madusa's not SRS or Meltzer or anything, but it seemed oddly specific she'd know that.

[mistery]

Tony saw that he wasn't gonna win biggest bitch of 2023 and was like "not today buster" and signed Ric Flair to lock it down for himself

[Dub H]

Nov 2, 2023 15:02:11 GMT -5 Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite said:

Nov 2, 2023 14:56:34 GMT -5 Mecca said:

Man this is the long game for Tony to poach Charlotte.

If that was the actual plan I wouldn't even be mad.

The only use Charlotte would have is make the division worse. Her only upside is being heavily promoted by wwe
I would be mad.

I mean im already mad they signed ric

[Demented]

[polarbearpete]

Nov 2, 2023 14:47:41 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

Nov 2, 2023 14:45:39 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

I know AEW has generally been great at featuring veterans and getting the most out of them while mentoring the younger generation, but at one point does there become too many of these legends on TV (regardless of how good they still are) on a weekly basis that you start to affect the overall feeling people have about your company as a whole?

AEW might be nearing that point with Flair, Sting (who has been amazing), Jarrett (also been great), Show, Jericho, Edge, Christian, the Hardy Boys, Billy Gunn, Dustin (though he’s lesser used than the others).

If they were all being used and beating the young guys on the regular, I think it'd be a valid point, but 99% of the guys you mentioned are used to either put over the young talent or they're associated with the young talent in a way where they bolster their acts and don't hinder things. Big Show's barely been used, Sting and Jarrett have had great runs, Jericho carried much of the early AEW load, the Hardyz are there to just kind of lose and Daddy Ass is super popular.

I agree with that. My point was that despite how well each individually may be used, does there become a saturation point where there’s too many of these types present weekly on TV that it alters the perception of the company that fans have?

[clifford]

Lol f*** this

[Ben Wyatt]

I just don't see an upside. And not to be morbid but like, he's 74 with a recent history of serious health issues. There's actually a chance he actually dies of natural causes before the deal is up, depending on length

[dpg]

If the deal is as fightful says, TK has signed a sponsorship deal with the only benefit being a 74 year old man who adds nothing.

[chrom]

Nov 2, 2023 15:13:31 GMT -5 Ben Wyatt said:

I just don't see an upside. And not to be morbid but like, he's 74 with a recent history of serious health issues. There's actually a chance he actually dies of natural causes before the deal is up, depending on length

Flair's been adamant that he dies in the ring and it seems like he finally found a sucker who will let him do just that.

[polarbearpete]

So the pitch too good to pass up was “plug our drink and you get to use Ric Flair on TV at a reduced price for multiple years”?

[mistery]

Said it before and I'll say it again.

Randy Orton was a goddamn prophet when he said that Tony Khan is Jacksonville Dixie. AEW isn't in a death spiral at the moment but it's painfully clear Tony is unintentionally steering it that way.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Nov 2, 2023 15:13:05 GMT -5 polarbearpete said:

Nov 2, 2023 14:47:41 GMT -5 Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story said:

If they were all being used and beating the young guys on the regular, I think it'd be a valid point, but 99% of the guys you mentioned are used to either put over the young talent or they're associated with the young talent in a way where they bolster their acts and don't hinder things. Big Show's barely been used, Sting and Jarrett have had great runs, Jericho carried much of the early AEW load, the Hardyz are there to just kind of lose and Daddy Ass is super popular.

I agree with that. My point was that despite how well each individually may be used, does there become a saturation point where there’s too many of these types present weekly on TV that it alters the perception of the company that fans have?

I mean, maybe, but I don't think we're there yet. AEW arguably may have too much talent under contract but I don't think the spots that the legends are taking up would logically be filled by the younger guys, and not all these guys are on TV every week.

[Final Countdown Jones]

If Tony wanted an energy drink sponsorship so bad he should've dipped into whatever sorcery it took to get a Rich Energy deal so we could all at least watch the trash fire over here in wrestleland that all my racing friends have been enjoying so much

[chrom]

Nov 2, 2023 15:17:39 GMT -5 mistery said:

Said it before and I'll say it again.

Randy Orton was a goddamn prophet when he said that Tony Khan is Jacksonville Dixie. AEW isn't in a death spiral at the moment but it's painfully clear Tony is unintentionally steering it that way.

This all started when Cody left

[SneakMan]

Okay, so, I could understand bringing Flair in for a short-term, part-time deal as part of Sting's retirement run - he's a lecherous old mummy but he was an integral part of Sting's rise to stardom. I wouldn't have been thrilled with it but I would understand.

But what value can Ric Flair possibly bring to a wrestling company in this day and age that you sign him to a multi-year deal and agree to pimp out his energy drink? Does TK think he's gonna be able to poach all the lapsed wrestling fans who stopped watching when WCW folded?

Like, "Here's The Nature Boy! Just as you remember him. Only it's been 22 years since WCW went under, and he's 74 years old and doesn't look a day over 80, and he can barely promo, and he legitimately runs a risk of dying if he takes a bump. Watch him hawk a drink that probably tastes like berry-flavored piss. Woooo!" 

Just, baffling. Absolutely baffling. 

[Ben Wyatt]

Nov 2, 2023 15:18:19 GMT -5 chrom said:

Nov 2, 2023 15:17:39 GMT -5 mistery said:

Said it before and I'll say it again.

Randy Orton was a goddamn prophet when he said that Tony Khan is Jacksonville Dixie. AEW isn't in a death spiral at the moment but it's painfully clear Tony is unintentionally steering it that way.

This all started when Cody left

With each passing day, Part of me wonders if Cody had a hunch or something. 

[asuka007]

Nov 2, 2023 15:06:35 GMT -5 Push R Truth said:

We are totally getting Flair vs Sting.

Strap yourselves in my friends.

Flair vs. Double J.

WCW in 2000 nostalgia trip.

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Nov 2, 2023 15:21:42 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Nov 2, 2023 15:06:35 GMT -5 Push R Truth said:

We are totally getting Flair vs Sting.

Strap yourselves in my friends.

Flair vs. Double J.

WCW in 2000 nostalgia trip.

[polarbearpete]

Nov 2, 2023 15:17:39 GMT -5 mistery said:

Said it before and I'll say it again.

Randy Orton was a goddamn prophet when he said that Tony Khan is Jacksonville Dixie. AEW isn't in a death spiral at the moment but it's painfully clear Tony is unintentionally steering it that way.

They’ll be fine overall, their ratings and attendance numbers are just too vastly superior to TNA to go that route any time soon. And they’re lined up for a pretty big media rights deal with WBD in the next 14 months.