NWA May Have Just Snorted Away CW TV Deal

[The Dark Order Inferno]

Now watch as he gets the NWA a two minute segment on Tyrus' fox nation show.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Ay, just in case you want a quick note on how nonsensical wrestling and BUSINESS is, this fool wanted loyalty from his talent but they couldn't even trust HIM to not tank the big TV deal that was on the table.

A deeply unserious man in an already unserious business.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

I suspect there never was a TV deal

[Sephiroth]

Nov 13, 2023 9:18:51 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Ay, just in case you want a quick note on how nonsensical wrestling and BUSINESS is, this fool wanted loyalty from his talent but they couldn't even trust HIM to not tank the big TV deal that was on the table.

A deeply unserious man in an already unserious business.

Easy for me to play armchair expert, but they could have just shown father James with a big ass bottle of Jack Daniels next to him while cackling over his villainous ways and it would still have conveyed the image Corgan had in mind, because for some reason booze is allowed on tv but narcotics are a no no. Could even just have s bottle full of iced tea to worm around any protest.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Nov 13, 2023 9:24:56 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Nov 13, 2023 9:18:51 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Ay, just in case you want a quick note on how nonsensical wrestling and BUSINESS is, this fool wanted loyalty from his talent but they couldn't even trust HIM to not tank the big TV deal that was on the table.

A deeply unserious man in an already unserious business.

Easy for me to play armchair expert, but they could have just shown father James with a big ass bottle of Jack Daniels next to him while cackling over his villainous ways and it would still have conveyed the image Corgan had in mind, because for some reason booze is allowed on tv but narcotics are a no no. Could even just have s bottle full of iced tea to worm around any protest.

Well for one alcohol is legal and cocaine isn't...

[cjmb says Trans Rights]

Apparently they asked Effy to come wrestle for them and…. it didn’t go well for them:
www.fightful.com/wrestling/effy-nwa-asked-me-come-work-them-i-said-go-fck-yourself?amp

You know what I told Billy Corgan? I said go f*** yourself. They asked me to come work NWA. They begged. They had multiple people call me to come work NWA. You know what I said? I’m not helping you. They said Tyrus isn’t here anymore. You know what I said? You leaned into what Tyrus was doing, which was hate speech and FOX News bullshit, for such a long period that it f***ed you, and now you want Effy to come in and fix things and go a PR job? No. I’m not helping you. I don’t need you, and I’m not helping your company look competent. Then what happens? You blow your TV deal with the CW because oh, the GCW guys are all smoking crack? Is that the rumor going around? No, the NWA guys are doing fake cocaine live on the air and getting pulled off of FITE TV and losing their TV deals. Oh my god. You want Effy to come in? Alright, well guess what? It’s as easy as giving me $50 million, you stupid dumbass piece of shit. Go be a rat in a cage, dumbass Billy Corgan, you f***ing loser," Effy said.

[Urethra Franklin]

Love Billy’s voice and will always have a soft spot for the Pumpkins, but what an insufferable tool he is.

[Rave]

Nov 12, 2023 17:30:39 GMT -5 booty2shoes said:

Nov 12, 2023 12:22:53 GMT -5 Can you afford to pay me, Gah said:

Corgan out claiming he still had some TV deal. I don't know if he really does or just on damage control to attempt to keep the roster from leaving.

Does America One still exist?

How about MavTV?

Is Destination America still a thing?

Does GoFightLive count as TV?

Destination America suffered Dixie's bullshit, so even if they weren't a Discovery network I doubt they'd take on another troubled (to put it lightly) wrestling promotion.

...I wouldn't be shocked if he ended up paying for TV time on POP or something...

[The Dark Order Inferno]

Good on Effy for giving them the finger for the Tyrus' stuff. They did what they did knowingly, willingly, they viewed him being a scumbag as a selling point and absolutely would have become the promotion for that kind of person if they got any sort of benefit from it. They didn't, now they want to do damage control and have a popular LGBTQ wrestler come in to help them. You reap what you sow, Billy.

[Feargus McReddit]

Nov 13, 2023 9:19:52 GMT -5 Vice honcho room temperature said:

I suspect there never was a TV deal

I’ll stick my neck out and say, considering CW was asking all kinds of wrestling companies to air on their network, at the very least there were talks.

[cjb01: Limited Edition Item!]

Nov 13, 2023 23:30:42 GMT -5 cjmb says Trans Rights said:

Apparently they asked Effy to come wrestle for them and…. it didn’t go well for them:
www.fightful.com/wrestling/effy-nwa-asked-me-come-work-them-i-said-go-fck-yourself?amp

You know what I told Billy Corgan? I said go f*** yourself. They asked me to come work NWA. They begged. They had multiple people call me to come work NWA. You know what I said? I’m not helping you. They said Tyrus isn’t here anymore. You know what I said? You leaned into what Tyrus was doing, which was hate speech and FOX News bullshit, for such a long period that it f***ed you, and now you want Effy to come in and fix things and go a PR job? No. I’m not helping you. I don’t need you, and I’m not helping your company look competent. Then what happens? You blow your TV deal with the CW because oh, the GCW guys are all smoking crack? Is that the rumor going around? No, the NWA guys are doing fake cocaine live on the air and getting pulled off of FITE TV and losing their TV deals. Oh my god. You want Effy to come in? Alright, well guess what? It’s as easy as giving me $50 million, you stupid dumbass piece of shit. Go be a rat in a cage, dumbass Billy Corgan, you f***ing loser," Effy said.

I appreciate there were wrestlers wearing Trans/LGBTQ+ stuff on their gear while Tyrus was still there too, on the same shows.

Legit f*** him and NWA for platforming him. Whether you believe karma exists or not, this whole situation sure feels like it!

As I said, NWA doesn't care about any of its workers, and this proved it tenfold. I wouldn't be shocked if talents simply start to walk away, as under Corgan, the NWA serves very little purpose or upside with a ton of other companies offering the same kind of opportunities anymore.

Even if someone buys the franchise from Corgan? Good luck rehabbing its image after what this moron's done to it...

[cjb01: Limited Edition Item!]

Nov 14, 2023 6:44:28 GMT -5 booty2shoes said:

I keep seeing people make reference to Corgan potentially "selling" the NWA to someone else now. It makes me angry every time, because I'm reminded of how Corgan should've never "owned" the NWA itself to begin with. It was supposed to be a bunch of promoters working together. That's what the NWA always was. Until he decided he needed all of it to himself.

He wanted to prove that he could make it better by himself and somehow tanked a brand that was already in the gutter, it was impressive really just how hard he f***ed this up.

One day I hope NWA can actually be run by someone or some people again with some basic concept of logic and ineptitude, and have it not just shut down forever and go out with the biggest whimper possible. After this though? If Corgan hadn't lost the entire room before, he sure has now...

[Sephiroth]

Nov 13, 2023 21:29:03 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave is Correct said:

Nov 13, 2023 9:24:56 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Easy for me to play armchair expert, but they could have just shown father James with a big ass bottle of Jack Daniels next to him while cackling over his villainous ways and it would still have conveyed the image Corgan had in mind, because for some reason booze is allowed on tv but narcotics are a no no. Could even just have s bottle full of iced tea to worm around any protest.

Well for one alcohol is legal and cocaine isn't...

Next they’ll let the Scientologists advertise during the super bowl.

Oh wait…

[Bo Rida]

Good for Effy. It's always sad to see LGBT+ westlers used for sports/pink washing. Especially where many have little choice but to take the money if they want to eat.

Hopefully the likes of Max the impaler can find a better place of regular employment soon.

[Vice honcho room temperature]

Nov 14, 2023 6:18:42 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

Nov 13, 2023 9:19:52 GMT -5 Vice honcho room temperature said:

I suspect there never was a TV deal

I’ll stick my neck out and say, considering CW was asking all kinds of wrestling companies to air on their network, at the very least there were talks.

Probably there might have been talking for something short term considering the actors strike but they were obviously in talks for NXT before this, so I doubt there was an official deal done for actual TV time.

[Feargus McReddit]

Nov 14, 2023 9:32:07 GMT -5 Vice honcho room temperature said:

Nov 14, 2023 6:18:42 GMT -5 Feargus McReddit said:

I’ll stick my neck out and say, considering CW was asking all kinds of wrestling companies to air on their network, at the very least there were talks.

Probably there might have been talking for something short term considering the actors strike but they were obviously in talks for NXT before this, so I doubt there was an official deal done for actual TV time.

From what we know, CW were in talks with multiple promotions, including trying to get ROH, and also want other companies to air which hasn’t changed since they got NXT (they also have WOW which doesn’t seem to be going anywhere as far as we know) so putting the pieces together, they were probably in talks considering there doesn’t seem to be exclusivity but nothing confirmed.

[markymark]

It has been a wild month for Billy Corgan and the NWA. Haus of Wrestling was the first to report last month that Corgan had inked a pair of TV deals with The CW, one for their weekly Powerrr series and the other for a yet-to-be-named reality show. Those plans were thrown into disarray following a controversial segment on their NWA Samhain PPV that featured Father James Mitchell doing cocaine with various extras and members of the roster.

The backlash to the segment on social media caused The CW to reconsider airing the NWA on its actual television airwaves. It will now likely make the content available on its app. Shortly after our initial reporting about The CW reconsidering airing Corgan’s NWA content, it was announced WWE had signed a multi-year deal with The CW to air NXT starting in October 2024.

Haus of Wrestling has learned that the NWA is expected to make cuts to its roster and various production areas soon. One source we spoke with told us that Corgan will make cuts “at every corner.” One example we were given on the production side is that the hair and make-up department’s budget will be cut roughly in half.

We are also told that this weekend’s NWA Powerrr tapings will primarily only have contracted talent appearing and what was described to us as “a bare-bones crew.” Exceptions to the rule regarding non-contracted talent appearing are Violent J and Mike Knox. Concerning J, we are told he flies himself in and works for free. Current NWA Tag Team Champion Kratos is also not under contract but holds a title. The two wrestlers playing a masked tag team are also not under contract but are working an NWA-owned gimmick.

The January tapings have already been booked with primarily contracted talent. The talent cuts will likely occur following those tapings in early 2024, when Corgan expects to start contract negotiations. As we previously reported, several NWA talents’ contracts come up in June 2024. We were not given an idea of how many talents would be cut or not re-signed, but it was stressed that all contracted talent was under review and their benefits to the company were being weighed. Talent without contracts cannot be let go, so some of those working without formal deals will likely not be called regarding future bookings.

Another cost-cutting measure that Haus of Wrestling learned about is that most NWA talent can no longer fly in the day before shows. By doing so, the NWA no longer has to pay extra hotel costs, which they have been footing the bill for up to now. The NWA has been paying for flights and hotels for talent, which is different than a standard WWE deal, which usually only covers flights. Paying for hotels has been considered an incentive for talent to work for the NWA to compensate for their lower pay compared to more prominent companies. From what we are told, AEW also pays for their talents’ hotel rooms.

NWA talent will continue to have their hotels paid for on the night of tapings. If the tapings go for more than one day, they will have their hotel paid for on the night of each taping before they fly out the day after the final day. The January tapings are tentatively scheduled for two nights, so the talent will get their hotel rooms paid for on both nights if that is the case.

We are told that the cuts are because Corgan has been funding everything out of pocket for the NWA for years. There has been “little to no sponsorship money coming in,” and he has spent millions on Powerrr and the NWA reality series. If the promotion wants to keep operating at a level they are comfortable with, cuts will have to be made.

www.hausofwrestling.com/2023/11/16/nwa-expected-to-make-roster-and-production-cuts-exclusive/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=nwa-expected-to-make-roster-and-production-cuts-exclusive

[Gawk Rivers]

There has been “little to no sponsorship money coming in,”

WOW I WONDER WHY YOU f***ING IDIOT 😭 😭 

[chrom]

Instead of a nickel budget for shows, the budget is now two and a half pennies.

[Gawk Rivers]

Exceptions to the rule regarding non-contracted talent appearing are Violent J and Mike Knox. Concerning J, we are told he flies himself in and works for free.