NWA May Have Just Snorted Away CW TV Deal

[Bo Rida]

It's usually fun laughing at Tyrus, Billy and NWA but that update is just sad as it's hitting the other wrestlers.
Have to wonder where that production budget is going though.

[Final Countdown Jones]

Nick Hausman puffing up his own reporting that nobody's really been able to substantiate since for a few paragraphs, good going Nick.

And wow NWA is rapidly approaching the level that TNA was at when they brought him in and began bilking him for loans. Maybe it's for NWA to tag in [rolls dice] Gregg Alexander to come save the company.

[The Captain]

So he's not only reporting in the third person, but the third person plural.

[cjb01: Limited Edition Item!]

Yeah this is just sad, as I said earlier I don't know how many wrestlers are even going to consider NWA even a slight upgrade over most other Indies at this point

Not only are they in complete freefall but Corgan has proven to be a terrible leader, it offers generally no upside anymore in its current form.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

Nov 14, 2023 6:44:28 GMT -5 booty2shoes said:

I keep seeing people make reference to Corgan potentially "selling" the NWA to someone else now. It makes me angry every time, because I'm reminded of how Corgan should've never "owned" the NWA itself to begin with. It was supposed to be a bunch of promoters working together. That's what the NWA always was. Until he decided he needed all of it to himself.

Its hard in todays wrestling for that model to work. It can if you have enough of the right promoters and companies involved. That hard part is enough willing to play ball while being respected as an overall brand. Which like before Billy, he as in the gutter. I know how I would do it if it was me. There still needs to be a main person or committee in control of the NWA to decide the World Champions and ext. Let the promotors handle there own company titles. I still seek the NWA as a main brand with quarterly PPVs Main two titles I still use is the Crockett Cup and the Anniversary shows. The other two would be name something more professional and not so connected to a wrestler or whatever.

Than you have to balance the PPV cards as in how many matches and who is on it. Maybe have a core talent signed that goes to promoter to promoter. Because you don't want to lose talent unless you only plan to a feeder group.

[chrom]

Nov 13, 2023 9:24:56 GMT -5 Sephiroth said:

Nov 13, 2023 9:18:51 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Ay, just in case you want a quick note on how nonsensical wrestling and BUSINESS is, this fool wanted loyalty from his talent but they couldn't even trust HIM to not tank the big TV deal that was on the table.

A deeply unserious man in an already unserious business.

Easy for me to play armchair expert, but they could have just shown father James with a big ass bottle of Jack Daniels next to him while cackling over his villainous ways and it would still have conveyed the image Corgan had in mind, because for some reason booze is allowed on tv but narcotics are a no no. Could even just have s bottle full of iced tea to worm around any protest.

If they wanted him smoking, why not a Cigar? Fits his devilish appearance he has molded for himself.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Haus of Wrestling would like to inform you that Haus of Wrestling is feeling very Haus of Wrestling today.

[fortknox]

Billy should let Homer Simpson run it. It can only get better.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

Yeah, I figured this would be a money pit for Corgan, even cheap looking taped shows are surprisingly expensive to produce and the NWA doesn't draw anything like that they'd need to in order to limit those losses through live attendances as the product has zero buzz, even before Tyrus. RoH were losing millions too prior to the Sinclair deal.

The best chance he had to turn things around was to get a TV deal and that was unlikely, even with the CW negotiations. CW were never going to sign on the dotted line once WWE programming became available and this just gave them an out.

[Hypnosis]

Nov 16, 2023 18:34:34 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Haus of Wrestling would like to inform you that Haus of Wrestling is feeling very Haus of Wrestling today.

Nick Hausman probably would fail at a Danhausen impersonation.

[THE FVNKER]

Nov 16, 2023 14:27:35 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

Exceptions to the rule regarding non-contracted talent appearing are Violent J and Mike Knox. Concerning J, we are told he flies himself in and works for free.

Will someone just let ICP enjoy and participate in wrestling?

[06vwgti]

I counted a ton of "we" in Hausmans article

[dpg]

Nov 17, 2023 4:20:40 GMT -5 The Dark Order Inferno said:

Yeah, I figured this would be a money pit for Corgan, even cheap looking taped shows are surprisingly expensive to produce and the NWA doesn't draw anything like that they'd need to in order to limit those losses through live attendances as the product has zero buzz, even before Tyrus. RoH were losing millions too prior to the Sinclair deal.

The best chance he had to turn things around was to get a TV deal and that was unlikely, even with the CW negotiations. CW were never going to sign on the dotted line once WWE programming became available and this just gave them an out.

That's pretty much it. Powerrr was never going to make enough to cover more than a fraction of the costs on youtube, its live crowds are tiny and PPVs don't sell well. Corgan has been running the NWA as a vanity project and now the money has run out.

[El Pollo Guerrera]

Nov 16, 2023 22:18:54 GMT -5 fortknox said:

Billy should let Homer Simpson run it. It can only get better.

Oh no... did you ever play Simpsons Wrestling?

[Natural Born Farmer]

Feel like he could've started his own promotion, run monthly shows out of Chicago, made some shrewd promotional partnerships with streaming services, and gradually grown something of his own into a company that could've run shows elsewhere.

Basically do the Wrestlecircus model, but funded by a guy who can afford to throw good money after bad for a good long while.

Surely has to be cheaper than buying an existing brand and trying to copy their failing business practices out of pocket.

[Vampiro138]

Nov 16, 2023 22:18:54 GMT -5 fortknox said:

Billy should let Homer Simpson run it. It can only get better.

I mean, Homer was made the owner of the Denver Broncos in 1996, they then won the super bowl in 97 and again in 98. Homer would legit be a great owner.

[lucas_lee]

Nov 16, 2023 15:35:09 GMT -5 Final Countdown Jones said:

Nick Hausman puffing up his own reporting that nobody's really been able to substantiate since for a few paragraphs, good going Nick.

And wow NWA is rapidly approaching the level that TNA was at when they brought him in and began bilking him for loans. Maybe it's for NWA to tag in [rolls dice] Gregg Alexander to come save the company.

Here comes the lawsuit baby!!

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Nov 17, 2023 22:01:55 GMT -5 Natural Born Farmer said:

Feel like he could've started his own promotion, run monthly shows out of Chicago, made some shrewd promotional partnerships with streaming services, and gradually grown something of his own into a company that could've run shows elsewhere.

Basically do the Wrestlecircus model, but funded by a guy who can afford to throw good money after bad for a good long while.

Surely has to be cheaper than buying an existing brand and trying to copy their failing business practices out of pocket.

With these kinds of situations it’s easy to pile on and see everything as a dumpster fire. After all Corgan has done so, so, SO MUCH wrong with his time in wrestling.

But Corgan actually did use your approach, at least in part. He was the money man behind Resistance Pro. I forget the specifics of why he cut ties with that promotion in 2014, but I think it boiled down to him having a falling out with the owners. After that rather than try to grow another indie with his financial backing, he tried to take over TNA and we all know how that turned out (it didn’t).

In theory a celebrity restoring the NWA to its former glory sounds like a great story. Corgan also has a LONG track record of being a legitimate fan. But it’s like how I like sci-fi movies. I could be really passionate about Star Wars, but if I’m expected to design a rocket ship then NASA is pretty well f***ed.

A lot of things could have helped the NWA much more than Billy Corgan. For instance a Rick Rubin figure who has a general idea of the kind of wrestling he wants to see, is willing to financially back it, but then pays others with more experience to do everything wrestling related could have been much more beneficial. And that’s just one possibility.

Corgan is no Rick Rubin and has shown he has a horrible mind for the business. He’s like Vince Russo but without the ability to say he had a part in the Attitude Era.

[The anti-ratings Luddite]

Nov 17, 2023 22:41:10 GMT -5 KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! said:

Nov 17, 2023 22:01:55 GMT -5 Natural Born Farmer said:

Feel like he could've started his own promotion, run monthly shows out of Chicago, made some shrewd promotional partnerships with streaming services, and gradually grown something of his own into a company that could've run shows elsewhere.

Basically do the Wrestlecircus model, but funded by a guy who can afford to throw good money after bad for a good long while.

Surely has to be cheaper than buying an existing brand and trying to copy their failing business practices out of pocket.

With these kinds of situations it’s easy to pile on and see everything as a dumpster fire. After all Corgan has done so, so, SO MUCH wrong with his time in wrestling.

But Corgan actually did use your approach, at least in part. He was the money man behind Resistance Pro. I forget the specifics of why he cut ties with that promotion in 2014, but I think it boiled down to him having a falling out with the owners. After that rather than try to grow another indie with his financial backing, he tried to take over TNA and we all know how that turned out (it didn’t).

In theory a celebrity restoring the NWA to its former glory sounds like a great story. Corgan also has a LONG track record of being a legitimate fan. But it’s like how I like sci-fi movies. I could be really passionate about Star Wars, but if I’m expected to design a rocket ship then NASA is pretty well f***ed.

A lot of things could have helped the NWA much more than Billy Corgan. For instance a Rick Rubin figure who has a general idea of the kind of wrestling he wants to see, is willing to financially back it, but then pays others with more experience to do everything wrestling related could have been much more beneficial. And that’s just one possibility.

Corgan is no Rick Rubin and has shown he has a horrible mind for the business. He’s like Vince Russo but without the ability to say he had a part in the Attitude Era.

God help me for saying this, but...

Vince Russo knew how to write a TV format, too.  NWA is sloppy and boring.  Say what you will about Russo and his suckitude, but he was never boring.

[chrom]

Nov 17, 2023 22:15:42 GMT -5 Vampiro138 said:

Nov 16, 2023 22:18:54 GMT -5 fortknox said:

Billy should let Homer Simpson run it. It can only get better.

I mean, Homer was made the owner of the Denver Broncos in 1996, they then won the super bowl in 97 and again in 98. Homer would legit be a great owner.

He sold them to Moe to pay off his bar tap.