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Post by ben:friendship frog on Feb 15, 2024 16:07:30 GMT -5
So are Iyo, Kairi and Asuka Damage CTRL now? Or is Damage CTRL dead?
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Post by gl83 on Feb 16, 2024 12:08:24 GMT -5
2 weeks ago, Bayley made her contribution to the storyline in getting sympathy & getting the fans behind her. Last week, Dakota did her part as the conflicted ambiguous "wildcard" in the storyline. Now IYO needs to contribute, whether it be explaining the betrayal or trying to sow discord between Bayley/Dakota. I don't expect a in-ring segment(considering how packed Smackdown's card looks), but i do hope for a Nakamura-esque vignette with subtitles explaining why she turned on Bayley, or maybe splices of NXT Dakota and all of her betrayals to try to sow mistrust between Bayley and Dakota. But, they got to do something with her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 12:15:14 GMT -5
2 weeks ago, Bayley made her contribution to the storyline in getting sympathy & getting the fans behind her. Last week, Dakota did her part as the conflicted ambiguous "wildcard" in the storyline. Now IYO needs to contribute, whether it be explaining the betrayal or trying to sow discord between Bayley/Dakota. I don't expect a in-ring segment(considering how packed Smackdown's card looks), but i do hope for a Nakamura-esque vignette with subtitles explaining why she turned on Bayley, or maybe splices of NXT Dakota and all of her betrayals to try to sow mistrust between Bayley and Dakota. But, they got to do something with her. Well with the departure of the woman who was apparently the head writer for the women I wonder if we are gonna see any changes. This woman apparently is close to Mercedes Mone...I almost wonder if IYO's lack of importance other than her being one half of the Mania match was this woman trying to give Mercedes bestie the majority share while IYO basically faded to the background. But to echo you they HAVE to give IYO something otherwise what the f*** are we even doing this feud for if the heel is basically relegated to the shadowrealm and not allowed to speak or really do anything.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 16, 2024 15:33:45 GMT -5
2 weeks ago, Bayley made her contribution to the storyline in getting sympathy & getting the fans behind her. Last week, Dakota did her part as the conflicted ambiguous "wildcard" in the storyline. Now IYO needs to contribute, whether it be explaining the betrayal or trying to sow discord between Bayley/Dakota. I don't expect a in-ring segment(considering how packed Smackdown's card looks), but i do hope for a Nakamura-esque vignette with subtitles explaining why she turned on Bayley, or maybe splices of NXT Dakota and all of her betrayals to try to sow mistrust between Bayley and Dakota. But, they got to do something with her. Well with the departure of the woman who was apparently the head writer for the women I wonder if we are gonna see any changes. This woman apparently is close to Mercedes Mone...I almost wonder if IYO's lack of importance other than her being one half of the Mania match was this woman trying to give Mercedes bestie the majority share while IYO basically faded to the background. But to echo you they HAVE to give IYO something otherwise what the f*** are we even doing this feud for if the heel is basically relegated to the shadowrealm and not allowed to speak or really do anything. If there ever was a time for some semblance of the old NXT IO to show up, now would be the time. One of the things I loved was how unhinged and callous and cold-hearted Io was with her mind games at attacking her opponent's weaknesses. Like with Tegan, she attacked how she couldn't do it alone that she needed her friends, the same friends who have betrayed her. Or in the case of Dakota, she attacked how deep down she is still the same pitiful weakling that cowered in fear of Shayna Baszler. In this case she should be zeroing in on Bayley's history of being used and betrayed, on Dakota's history of betraying her friends and what makes Bayley so sure that she isn't being set up for another betrayal just as IYO/Asuka/Kairi did to her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 15:39:31 GMT -5
Well with the departure of the woman who was apparently the head writer for the women I wonder if we are gonna see any changes. This woman apparently is close to Mercedes Mone...I almost wonder if IYO's lack of importance other than her being one half of the Mania match was this woman trying to give Mercedes bestie the majority share while IYO basically faded to the background. But to echo you they HAVE to give IYO something otherwise what the f*** are we even doing this feud for if the heel is basically relegated to the shadowrealm and not allowed to speak or really do anything. If there ever was a time for some semblance of the old NXT IO to show up, now would be the time. One of the things I loved was how unhinged and callous and cold-hearted Io was with her mind games at attacking her opponent's weaknesses. Like with Tegan, she attacked how she couldn't do it alone that she needed her friends, the same friends who have betrayed her. Or in the case of Dakota, she attacked how deep down she is still the same pitiful weakling that cowered in fear of Shayna Baszler. In this case she should be zeroing in on Bayley's history of being used and betrayed, on Dakota's history of betraying her friends and what makes Bayley so sure that she isn't being set up for another betrayal just as IYO/Asuka/Kairi did to her. I loved those videos Black and Gold prime target videos it always gave a sense of gravitas and a nice way to summarize an entire feud in a quick condenced way. NXT Io was so brilliant in knowing how to prey on her oppositions insecurities...it showed how much she was paying attention to every single woman on the roster.
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Post by mistery on Feb 16, 2024 19:59:29 GMT -5
Potential spoilers for Smackdown over the next few weeks (it's not good news): {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Apparently no Iyo/Bayley stuff for Smackdown this week or next week, per Fightful's rundowns.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 16, 2024 22:36:48 GMT -5
I do love how they are making the Bayley/Dakota stuff so ambiguous. There are so many paths they can take this. Either:
-Dakota is planning this the whole time and is going to stab Bayley in the back when it's convenient
-Dakota is being authentic and is trying to make it up to Bayley but Bayley doesn't believe her after everything that's happened(ala Sami/KO from last year)
-Dakota in fear of Damage Ctrl reprisal ends up returning back to their fold begrudgingly(basically the Jey Uso branch)
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Post by mistery on Feb 16, 2024 23:17:30 GMT -5
I do love how they are making the Bayley/Dakota stuff so ambiguous. There are so many paths they can take this. Either: -Dakota is planning this the whole time and is going to stab Bayley in the back when it's convenient -Dakota is being authentic and is trying to make it up to Bayley but Bayley doesn't believe her after everything that's happened(ala Sami/KO from last year) -Dakota in fear of Damage Ctrl reprisal ends up returning back to their fold begrudgingly(basically the Jey Uso branch) I feel like Dakota is gonna be pushed back into Damage CTRL, because Bayley's paranoia is gonna get the best of her, and cost her the Wrestlemania match.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2024 23:53:58 GMT -5
I do love how they are making the Bayley/Dakota stuff so ambiguous. There are so many paths they can take this. Either: -Dakota is planning this the whole time and is going to stab Bayley in the back when it's convenient -Dakota is being authentic and is trying to make it up to Bayley but Bayley doesn't believe her after everything that's happened(ala Sami/KO from last year) -Dakota in fear of Damage Ctrl reprisal ends up returning back to their fold begrudgingly(basically the Jey Uso branch) It is my favourite thing about this story is how many directions it can go. It is not guaranteed that Dakota turns on Bayley but it also isn't a sure thing she will either. And same with the title outcome...like normally this is a path where of course the good triumphs evil but this is not set in stone due to Dakota's role and which side she ultimately falls to. And tonight really gave Dakota just reason since Bayley pushed her away....like they can easily play it as Dakota was being authentic to wanting to side with Bayley but tonight Bayley pushed her away so in the end Bayley is the one creating her own problems.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 8:09:02 GMT -5
So now we know what a heel version of Threedom looks like or black lotus triad or triple tails by simply swaping out a single member. No other women on this roster can match this vibe honestly , they are the coolest f***ing bunch who walk in and just own the room. And I am glad they finally let these women talk and address Bayley even just briefly but what really pushed this was Dakota selling that fear of them coming after her minutes later it was just a little thing that added to their threat and made it mean something and I thought that was great but also needed.
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Post by Renslayer on Feb 17, 2024 11:42:13 GMT -5
Asuka looks like the coolest person on the planet
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Post by gl83 on Feb 17, 2024 12:27:17 GMT -5
I do love how they are making the Bayley/Dakota stuff so ambiguous. There are so many paths they can take this. Either: -Dakota is planning this the whole time and is going to stab Bayley in the back when it's convenient -Dakota is being authentic and is trying to make it up to Bayley but Bayley doesn't believe her after everything that's happened(ala Sami/KO from last year) -Dakota in fear of Damage Ctrl reprisal ends up returning back to their fold begrudgingly(basically the Jey Uso branch) It is my favourite thing about this story is how many directions it can go. It is not guaranteed that Dakota turns on Bayley but it also isn't a sure thing she will either. And same with the title outcome...like normally this is a path where of course the good triumphs evil but this is not set in stone due to Dakota's role and which side she ultimately falls to. And tonight really gave Dakota just reason since Bayley pushed her away....like they can easily play it as Dakota was being authentic to wanting to side with Bayley but tonight Bayley pushed her away so in the end Bayley is the one creating her own problems. I'm kinda leaning away from Dakota planning on betraying Bayley and this was a ruse all along, not with how paranoid and distant Bayley's's been acting. If she had trusted Dakota after last week, like she had chosen her side, then yeah I could see it being a setup. But as we saw Bayley is being very weary and acting all paranoid around Dakota keeping her at a distance. If Dakota does turn on Bayley I could see it due to Bayley being so distant and pushing her away rather than it being her plan the whole time. That would be such irony, wouldn't it? If Dakota was being sincere and chose to side with Bayley.....but because of Bayley being so traumatized and hurt by the whole IYO betrayal thing, that it clouded her judgement thus causing her to distance herself from Dakota and then because of that.....ends up leading to Dakota returning back to Damage Ctrl..... Basically a self-fulfilling prophecy, where she's trying to avoid another betrayal only to end up causing it in the end.
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Post by Hurbster on Feb 17, 2024 15:39:09 GMT -5
It's kind of like when she betrayed Tegan all that time ago, getting overlooked when she was trying to help.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 16:51:46 GMT -5
I do love the consistency with Dakota because she is in an all too familiar situation where she feels abandoned and betrayed.
And it ends the same way every time when she lashes out it is at the most inconvenient moment for whoever the opposition is.
Bayley should know better.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 17, 2024 22:45:59 GMT -5
I do love the consistency with Dakota because she is in an all too familiar situation where she feels abandoned and betrayed. And it ends the same way every time when she lashes out it is at the most inconvenient moment for whoever the opposition is. Bayley should know better. Also funny how the one person that Dakota never betrayed just so happens to be the one person who never abandoned her, who supported her and "picked her up" when she was feeling down or expressing doubts
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Post by gl83 on Feb 20, 2024 15:10:50 GMT -5
Bayley studying her WM opponent
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Post by mistery on Feb 20, 2024 20:45:16 GMT -5
Iyo, Asuka, and Kairi are not heels imo. Not with interactions like the one in the video above. Meanwhile Bayley is sitting at home watching old wrestling tapes!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 21:37:15 GMT -5
Bayley studying her WM opponent I LOVE this for a few reasons 1.FINALLY someone is taking Io as the serious threat she should be taken as by every single opponent , it gives us a different side to Bayley in that she has never taken this direction with any previous opponent , whether it be Bianca , or the other four horse women IMO this is already Bayley putting IYO over as more of a threat than anyone previous she has faced. This HOPEFULLY is a tease that we wont be seeing SKY at WM but instead SHIRAI and I don't doubt this is who Bayley wants to test herself against...not an Io that has to hold back but the Io that will push Bayley further than she has ever been pushed the one that made Mayu into the icon and if it is SHIRAI that shows up for the match...you are looking at an absoloutley serious shot at being the show stealer match of the entire WM weekend. Now let me speak to Bayley in story. HONEY...DO NOT WAKE THE GOD! YOU AINT READY BAYLEY...YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO HOLD EVEN GROUND WITH SKY....BUT SHIRAI IS PRETTY WELL GOD OF MODERN WOMENS WRESTLING. Do not call out for your own murder Bayley...stick to atleast having a chance instead of absoloutley none whatsoever.
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Post by gl83 on Feb 20, 2024 21:41:55 GMT -5
Iyo, Asuka, and Kairi are not heels imo. Not with interactions like the one in the video above. Meanwhile Bayley is sitting at home watching old wrestling tapes!!!! It's a pity Bayley has no one whom she can pick the brain of. Someone who knows IYO's tendencies through teaming up with her or wrestling against her all over the world from STARDOM to NXT. Oh well, gotta make due with what you got I guess.......
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Post by Totorob101 on Feb 20, 2024 22:12:25 GMT -5
Man Asuka is so likeable and both she and Kairi should be the faces in all of this, I still don't see why we should be cheering Bayley as she has not really apologised for her behaviour over the last few years, just because damage control attacked her and honestly bayley had that coming shouldn't mean she's a good person all of a sudden.I hope Iyo kicks her butt as damage control are far more cooler and likeable them Bayley and Dakota.
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