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Post by defectiveepitaph on Apr 1, 2024 19:30:51 GMT -5
OH I'M SAYING IT  The thumbnail to his Netflix standup special. Thank ‘em! |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Apr 1, 2024 20:00:47 GMT -5
Colt Cabana is not without his dubious history, but he continues to get talked about by his much more famous friend with little way of doing anything about it. Punk calling out his mom was so low and shitty. Now we find out Colt tried to be the bigger man and Punk wouldn’t have it. Eh. With their history? Wanting a lawyer present just sounds smart to me. Eh I don’t know if I’d need a lawyer for “hey can we be cool at work with each other,” but I’m not a very explosive guy. And to the quote post below, I never drew comparisons between Colt’s situation and the Brawl Out event so I’m not sure where that came from. |
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Apr 1, 2024 20:26:52 GMT -5
Where’s that CM Punk “Pay attention to me” when you need it lol
I mean he’s consistent, I’ll say that for him. Managed to make AEWs biggest show about him ultimately and now he’s doing something similar
I presume he went on as part of a promoting wrestlemania thing and to get people talking about that……Could have maybe just left it at “I’m not hear to take through the past, I’m just so excited about Wrestlemania and what I’m going to do at it”….but that’s not his style is it
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Apr 1, 2024 20:34:22 GMT -5
He's such a giant giant hypocrite. It's staggering. He's pro workers but he's raging against guaranteed money, he's pro trans and women but he shouts out transphobic and misogynist podcast hosts live on RAW, he hates the Elite for not agreeing to meet with him and bury the hatchet but when Colt Cabana comes to him to try and bury the hatchet he refuses to even speak to him and so on and so on. Seriously. Like I love CM Punk, the character I see on tv. The promos, the passion, the way the crowd lights up and shit feels authentic when he’s out there. I love that. Phil Brooks is an almost 50 year old manchild that acts like he’s some martyr or revolutionary. No, he’s a dick who every single thing has to go right for you to be his real life friend. And the moment you do something he doesn’t like, he acts like a child and cosplays as 21 year old Phil who wrote on LiveJournal. The fact that he tells people he’s a leader and willing to talk to people, but told Colt, his friend for decades, who wanted to bury the hatchet like a mature adult..that he wouldn’t speak to him without a lawyer present is f***ing sad. Like..what a pussy. |
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Post by jm on Apr 1, 2024 20:54:09 GMT -5
Also, the more people say “Guaranteed Money ruined pro wrestling”, the more I just utterly side eye them. Especially when they worked for two companies run by multi-billionaires, you should want to squeeze ever goddamn penny from them, whether they’re named Nick Khan or Tony Khan. Turns out that's the bit he didn't like about Hangman's promo. He will not have it said that he talks a big game about worker's rights, he's here to cape for billionaires. Punk already exposed himself as a corporate simp when he shouted out Zaslav in his Collision return promo. Right when that same Zaslav was one of the main people screwing over the writers in the Hollywood writers strike. Mr. Workers Rights everyone!!!! |
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Post by Dub H on Apr 1, 2024 20:54:50 GMT -5
Also lets not get twisted this "no holds barred" was just Punk's giving a plataform to freely bitch and moan, not once Ariel questioned his actions.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 1, 2024 20:55:10 GMT -5
Had a lot of time to think on this, now five weeks have passed and I can finally compile my thoughts for yet another CM Punk megathread. Here's my conclusion... CM Punk is a major f***ing hypocrite. After years of torching this place, even as far as a year and a half ago calling it "The place that got me sick in the first place", to go BACK, because he ran out of options and exposed to the world who he really is, and then still got everything he wanted, and did it AGAIN, he went crawling back through the supplicants entrance, and made, quite frankly, a pathetic comeback speech where he proclaimed he was "Home", where you could see through it harder then a freshly cleaned window. I get the moment was huge for some people, I also get that CM Punk has money feuds that people will care about in WWE. Me however? A longtime Punk fan? Someone who actually defended him and gave him the benefit of the doubt in AEW? Ask anyone here, they'll tell you I did that until I just f***ing couldn't anymore, because this is who CM Punk is, I frankly could have done without ever seeing this dude in a professional wrestling ring again, It's not good for wrestling, at least as far as fandom is concerned, to me personally. CM Punk in WWE is the exact opposite of what wrestling discourse needed right now. Because now, it is chock full of a bunch of people (Not here, just online) who will lord this over AEW or its dying and proclaim it their "Biggest mistake" to "Let him go" and "Choose the no drawing Bucks and Jack Perry over a real star" and just wish for their precious monopoly to return and put this guy on the soapbox of never having to suffer any consequences for their very real actions. It's quite frankly dumped cyanide into an already poisoned well and enabled the absolute worst people to puff out their chests and proclaim they were "right all along", especially when Punk likes to give shitheads in Louisville a platform. Thank you Phil, thank you for making me completely f***ing correct when I wrote this. |
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Post by jm on Apr 1, 2024 20:58:30 GMT -5
I remember when I used to have respect for this dude, but holy shit is that time gone. Rant incoming, so skip this post if you don't want to hear the ramblings of a dude bitching on a wrestling message board... I do agree that Jack Perry and Hangman were in the wrong for their bullshit. But Punk acting like he's some bastion of professionalism when his tirade at the presser was one of the most unprofessional and disrespectful things I've seen in wrestling. Looking back, I wish TK would've just looked at him right then and there and told him to get his shit and leave. Like him or not, TK obviously respected Punk and wanted it to work, but Punk is an asshole and continued to cause problems. Punk would've never, ever pulled that presser shit in the WWE because it's a giant corporate machine, they'd just fire him and put the next puppet up in his place. TK (again, whether you like him or not) is an actual professional wrestling fan who wanted to keep him around. If anything is a gimmick, it's the fact that this fraud portrays himself as some sort of punk rocker fighting the big, ugly system of professional wrestling. The fact is, as soon as he was fired, he ran back to the giant corporate sex pest den for the payday and the pettiness of 'sticking it' to AEW. That's not me being some gatekeeping tool, it's just a fact. He took the most un-punk route he could've taken. He traded in his women's rights and trans rights shirts for his official licensed WWE MERCH without a blink of an eye. Wear those on WWE TV, if you want to be a rebel, Phil. And I get that AEW isn't exactly 'indie', but there's other places he could've went that would've caused an impact or helped a fledgling company's business. He doesn't need the money, so it wasn't remotely an issue of him desperately needing a big paycheck. AEW will get a new TV deal and be just fine, so him throwing out the tired Cornette line about the company being a "disaster" proves how ignorant he is. TK and his family have the money to keep it going forever, if they want. Maybe grifter Cornette and his bitch boy Brian Last can have him on and they can convince themselves that AEW is some sort of failure, I don't know. It seems like just yesterday he was getting sued for bad-mouthing that company and its figureheads on a podcast with a long-time friend he completely shit on and sued. Now he's all too eager to shit on the company that had the AUDACITY to have issues of him bad-mouthing the company to the press and consistantly causing issues backstage. The fact is, AEW didn't and doesn't need him. The talent backstage knew that and didn't line up to kiss his ring, which is what Punk ultimately had a problem with. Dude can wear all the Ramones shirts he wants, there's nothing about him that's "punk" or genuine. The best thing anyone in AEW can do about this is completely ignore him. They brought in Mone, Okada, and Ospreay, all three of which I'd trade for him in a heartbeat. There's no need to respond to a sad, frail man who desperately wants the world to think he's some sort of badass. Phew. I'm sorry that anyone had to read that, but I needed to vent after being an idiot and subjecting myself to that interview.  |
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Post by Dub H on Apr 1, 2024 20:59:35 GMT -5
Also Phil propagating the narrative of "AEW is not a business"is f***ing stupid.At most times are just dumb people online(well ,this time its someone dumb with a plataform). Its consistently in top 5 of TV Ratings and PPVs always sell amazingly well both attendance and PPV/Stream numbers. But nah,its failing because they didnt want to follow him!
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Post by jm on Apr 1, 2024 21:02:07 GMT -5
Also lets not get twisted this "no holds barred" was just Punk's giving a plataform to freely bitch and moan, not once Ariel questioned his actions. You expect the same person who threw a fit when TK didn't answer questions yet was completely silent when HHH didn't answer questions to honestly fact check Punk when he's going on his diatribe against AEW? Edit: I just remembered that Helwani is also the person who referred to AEW fans as "freakazoids". So yeah, it's no surprise that he let Punk bury AEW without any kind of fact checking. |
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Post by Dave the Dave on Apr 1, 2024 21:50:03 GMT -5
Also Phil propagating the narrative of "AEW is not a business"is f***ing stupid.At most times are just dumb people online(well ,this time its someone dumb with a plataform). Its consistently in top 5 of TV Ratings and PPVs always sell amazingly well both attendance and PPV/Stream numbers. But nah,its failing because they didnt want to follow him! Yeah his comment that Hangman “had never done anything” says it all. Never figured a guy like Punk would be a “WWE is the only place that matters,” guy but you know…it is Punk. |
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Post by DichEvans on Apr 1, 2024 21:55:10 GMT -5
I think all this is interesting, but I will never get why so many people get worked up about it.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 1, 2024 22:04:02 GMT -5
I think all this is interesting, but I will never get why so many people get worked up about it. For twenty years we had a wrestling monopoly that was horrible for the pro wrestling landscape. Now you have someone who is trying destroy the first viable alternative to that and aligning himself with people who want nothing more than AEW to fail. He has also trashed and aligned himself with the very person trying to ruin the careers of the very people who helped the alternative come into existence. People have a right to be unhappy about Punk. |
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 1, 2024 22:04:09 GMT -5
I really wonder wtf cold did to have Punk not even want to talk to him without lawyers. Either way, Phil is definitely kind of a dick but I still love the guy lol
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 1, 2024 22:05:37 GMT -5
I think all this is interesting, but I will never get why so many people get worked up about it. For twenty years we had a wrestling monopoly that was horrible for the pro wrestling landscape. Now you have someone who is trying destroy the first viable alternative to thet and aligning himself with people who want nothing more than AEW to fail. People have a right to be u happy about Punk. Im sorry but Punk is not gonna “destroy” AEW lol. He just was not a good fit there. I kind of believe the fact that he thought the brand split idea was dumb and he knew the people there didn’t like him so he tried everything to get fired |
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 1, 2024 22:09:42 GMT -5
For twenty years we had a wrestling monopoly that was horrible for the pro wrestling landscape. Now you have someone who is trying destroy the first viable alternative to thet and aligning himself with people who want nothing more than AEW to fail. People have a right to be u happy about Punk. Im sorry but Punk is not gonna “destroy” AEW lol. He just was not a good fit there. I kind of believe the fact that he thought the brand split idea was dumb and he knew the people there didn’t like him so he tried everything to get fired I didn’t say he would destroy them but he has done things to purposefully hurt AEW. Has also done everything, including aligning with tennis racket man , to try and destroy the careers of The Elite when they are a huge reason we have an alternative now. People have every right to be upset at him. I have zero issues if people want to be a fan of his but those who don’t like him are well justified. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 2, 2024 2:06:40 GMT -5
Eh. With their history? Wanting a lawyer present just sounds smart to me. Eh I don’t know if I’d need a lawyer for “hey can we be cool at work with each other,” but I’m not a very explosive guy. And to the quote post below, I never drew comparisons between Colt’s situation and the Brawl Out event so I’m not sure where that came from. The All Out scrum started when Punk singled out Hausman to try to get him to talk about Colt Cabana... Hausman didn't take the bait and Punk started whining about Colt anyway. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 2, 2024 2:20:11 GMT -5
I also think Punk is really angry that he talked about being this big revolutionary that was going to change the wrestling world forever... but he's not the one that did it...
the people that did it are basically all the people he's mad at. the Elite and Colt all managed to basically do what he talked about for years.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 2, 2024 2:23:08 GMT -5
I really wonder wtf cold did to have Punk not even want to talk to him without lawyers. Either way, Phil is definitely kind of a dick but I still love the guy lol Asked CM Punk to be mature about a situation and do a thing Punk literally promised him and Punk has thrown a bitch fit ever since and that has seemingly not gotten better with time, it has only billowed out and effected more and more people negatively. |
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Post by stoptheclocks on Apr 2, 2024 2:34:26 GMT -5
Also lets not get twisted this "no holds barred" was just Punk's giving a plataform to freely bitch and moan, not once Ariel questioned his actions. You expect the same person who threw a fit when TK didn't answer questions yet was completely silent when HHH didn't answer questions to honestly fact check Punk when he's going on his diatribe against AEW? Edit: I just remembered that Helwani is also the person who referred to AEW fans as "freakazoids". So yeah, it's no surprise that he let Punk bury AEW without any kind of fact checking. It's not debate club. Asking Punk about a huge list of topics and getting him to give his opinion is absolutely Helwani's job in that situation. And then people can make their minds up from there (as they have done). The idea it would've been a better interview for him to start arguing back and forth is wild wishcasting. He wouldn't have gotten 1/10th of the information with that approach. In any case, he literally asked the guy about Colt Cabana and the hypocrisy of his opening AEW promo. |
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