CM Punk 2023–? Return Thread: Bracelet Chaser Arc

[Soultastic]

Nov 26, 2023 9:17:38 GMT -5 clifford said:

Nov 26, 2023 9:14:57 GMT -5 Denny Zen is Cooking™ said:

I think this depends on your definition of respect. Based on what we know of him publicly, I don’t think it’s likely he has even a scintilla of respect for anything or anyone except himself.

But, he doesn’t see WWE as beneath him, like he did AEW by the end of his run there.

Yeah I should've said 'Punk respects WWE in a way he didn't AEW'. But maybe respect isn't the word- tolerate might be a better word to use

More than respect I think it's "willing to put up with not getting his way for more money and a larger platform". Which don't get me wrong, it's a business, so that's a perfectly valid reasoning. I just wish it was more about personal creative direction than literally banning and fighting the roster.

[polarbearpete]

Nov 26, 2023 2:07:50 GMT -5 carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) said:

I just don't understand the selling point, here. "Seth and Punk hate each other IN REAL LIFE, so you should definitely watch them fake-fighting on our PPV!" Why on earth is this supposed to make us want to see this match?

I mean you can say that about the 10,000 other times it’s been tried.

[Tom Turkey]

What’s the odds on the inevitable Punk/Seth feud having Rollins say something in a promo that sets Punk off like what happened over in AEW with the Hangman feud?

[MrElijah]

Hey gang. What's the--

*sees thread & reads news*

[BorneAgain]

Punk: Hey, Seth want to have a program together?
Rollins: No.
Punk: *to himself* If a top name doesn't want to have a program with a new hot arrival, something is seriously wrong.
Miz: I'll have a program with you.
Punk: Get the hell out.
Miz: I'm gone.

[Denny Zen is Cooking™]

Nov 26, 2023 9:35:44 GMT -5 Tom Turkey said:

What’s the odds on the inevitable Punk/Seth feud having Rollins say something in a promo that sets Punk off like what happened over in AEW with the Hangman feud?

I feel like he’s less likely to feel like Rollins is required to worship the ground he walks on simply for existing, like he seemingly felt about Hangman Page, which always felt like it was the true trigger for all of his nonsense in AEW.

[mo]

Nov 26, 2023 9:11:20 GMT -5 clifford said:

Nov 26, 2023 8:43:58 GMT -5 gentlemengreg1 said:

Punk respects WWE?

When did Punk start respecting WWE?

Probably once pen hit paper and not a second sooner.

And the respect won’t be a second more after he is fired for cause within the next year.

Relative to AEW and how he perceives them to run things he does, absolutely.

He's wanted to go back there since Muffingate. I didn't say it doesn't make him a hypocrite.

He absolutely didn't respect AEW or Tony Khan. He saw himself as a star bigger than the company. He felt he was above it all. I don't think he feels the same about WWE, that's what I'm getting at.

Yeah I can agree with this, it definitely seems like he went to AEW thinking he was gonna take over. Don’t see him trying to pull that off in WWE.

[Cvslfc123]

Bloody hell.

He might be an asshole but f*** it, welcome home!

[khali]

I love the idea that WWE runs a tight ship and there’s less likely to be drama with Punk there, as if he didn’t already walk out of the company once before.

[clifford]

Nov 26, 2023 9:54:08 GMT -5 Cvslfc123 said:

Bloody hell.

He might be an asshole but f*** it, welcome home!

'January 27th 2014, I left sports entertainment. November 25th 2023; I'm back'.

[Tom Turkey]

Nov 26, 2023 9:53:16 GMT -5 mo said:

Nov 26, 2023 9:11:20 GMT -5 clifford said:

Relative to AEW and how he perceives them to run things he does, absolutely.

He's wanted to go back there since Muffingate. I didn't say it doesn't make him a hypocrite.

He absolutely didn't respect AEW or Tony Khan. He saw himself as a star bigger than the company. He felt he was above it all. I don't think he feels the same about WWE, that's what I'm getting at.

Yeah I can agree with this, it definitely seems like he went to AEW thinking he was gonna take over. Don’t see him trying to pull that off in WWE.

Especially since WWE (and by extension, TKO Group) won’t be afraid to cut bait the moment the headaches that Punk brings rear their ugly heads

[markymark]

From this morning's Wrestling Observer Radio:

"The whole thing that started it was that scrum (The All Out 2022 post event press scrum), I felt very strongly watching that, my take on watching that was he did not respect AEW, and I said it that night"

Dave says that in AEW, CM Punk felt like he was a bigger star than everyone. And he was the one that was drawing everything. Dave says Punk knows that there will be no tolerance for him screwing up in WWE. And Dave thinks he won't screw up because Punk respects the top WWE guys for "making it in WWE".

Dave says there are a lot of EX-WWE guys that feel like AEW's top guy's aren't really stars and wouldn't cut it in WWE. Dave says that there have been more people like that, that have joined AEW and have been a very negative to the company. He says there are a few Ex-WWE guys in AEW right now just waiting to go back to WWE. Dave says Punk wasn't like that when he first went to AEW but became like that and that Punk's comments suggest to Dave that Punk didn't rate a lot of AEW's top guys, especially Hangman Page.

Dave says why would WWE hire CM Punk? He says guys that draw always get chances and says that CM Punk in WWE will hurt AEW and AEW know it. He says that Cody Rhodes making the jump from AEW to WWE hurt AEW and helped WWE, a great deal. He thinks Punk will have a similar effect unless things happen.

He says that there were signs this month of WWE's ticket sales starting to plateau and even go down slightly in places and having peaked from being on fire for the past 18 months or so and Punk could be a "jump-start" to keep that going. Dave thinks Punk will help business short-term. "Long-term is anyone's guess"

Everyone in the match knew Punk was coming out at the end. Seth Rollins reactions are all a work. He says he thinks the reports that Drew stormed to the back after the match and changed quickly and left are not a work. He doesn't know for sure and will know later this week but has been told that it was to do with Punk. He says that Drew still hasn't signed his new contract and his current contract will expire next year, around WrestleMania time.

He thinks Raw Monday will do most likely do a giant rating.

[mo]

Nov 26, 2023 9:57:39 GMT -5 khali said:

I love the idea that WWE runs a tight ship and there’s less likely to be drama with Punk there, as if he didn’t already walk out of the company once before.

He walked out and they mailed him a pink slip. Punk made Tony Khan look like a powerless doofus in front of the world and Tony responded by building a whole new show around him. I don’t doubt there’s drama in WWE but I can’t see Punk getting away with the kind of stuff he did in AEW. I’ll happily admit if I’m wrong though, there’s a good chance we’ll have an opportunity to see soon!

[clifford]

Nov 26, 2023 10:14:50 GMT -5 mo said:

Nov 26, 2023 9:57:39 GMT -5 khali said:

I love the idea that WWE runs a tight ship and there’s less likely to be drama with Punk there, as if he didn’t already walk out of the company once before.

He walked out and they mailed him a pink slip. Punk made Tony Khan look like a powerless doofus in front of the world and Tony responded by building a whole new show around him. I don’t doubt there’s drama in WWE but I can’t see Punk getting away with the kind of stuff he did in AEW. I’ll happily admit if I’m wrong though, there’s a good chance we’ll have an opportunity to see soon!

Lol that's the thing with Punk- all these hypotheticals become reality pretty soon when it comes to him

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Dawg, the fact that people actually kinda think the Seth thing is real…oh yeah, that main event about to do NUMBERS.

HHH in his f***ing bag, I can’t lie. Literally the wrestling Booker equivalent of 2012-2013 Lebron

[Gerard Gerard]

Nov 26, 2023 10:21:29 GMT -5 clifford said:

Nov 26, 2023 10:14:50 GMT -5 mo said:

He walked out and they mailed him a pink slip. Punk made Tony Khan look like a powerless doofus in front of the world and Tony responded by building a whole new show around him. I don’t doubt there’s drama in WWE but I can’t see Punk getting away with the kind of stuff he did in AEW. I’ll happily admit if I’m wrong though, there’s a good chance we’ll have an opportunity to see soon!

Lol that's the thing with Punk- all these hypotheticals become reality pretty soon when it comes to him

Yeah, my first reaction to a lot of 'what-ifs' posited here is to think the WWE locker room is about to get very suddenly, and totally coincidentally, super leaky.

I'd bet my Haus on it.

[Magnus the Magnificent]

Has the betting pool on when he gets injured or pisses someone off opened yet?

[Gerard Gerard]

Nov 26, 2023 10:36:04 GMT -5 Magnus the Magnificent said:

Has the betting pool on when he gets injured or pisses someone off opened yet?

I'm pretty sure the internal staff has long since opened it, ran it and probably partially collected on it.

At least twice.

Today.

[The Rick Jericho]

I think the scripted nature of promos should hopefully keep Punk in check. I think AEW had more creative looseness on the mic.

[MiLB Fan]

Imagine going back two or three years and telling a wrestling fan that these guys would be on the WWE roster page in 2023. Unbelievable.