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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 27, 2024 18:34:33 GMT -5
I really feel Marvel/Disney did a lot of damage for women who want to be leads in action movies. Everything the Marvel movies did wrong when establishing "Girl Boss" protagonists, this movie did right. Genuinely loved it I think audiences are generally tired of being preached to in various movies and this movie got caught up in that, despite not really doing that at all. If it came out a decade ago, After Mad Max and before the explosion of this culture war, it would have made money The box office in general is massively down compared to a decade ago. It's recovering from the pandemic numbers, but there's a lot obstacles in the way, foremost of which is folks have less money to go to the movies and don't have to wait six-plus months for a movie to hit the home market, movies are on streaming within a couple of months of the theatrical release (and often on VOD well before that). Furiosa's domestic opening is pretty much in line with Fury Road's opening when you factor in the drop in overall box office spending since 2014. Probably the worst thing that can be said is it has failed to expand upon its core audience, which I don't think is really all that surprising. Mad Max has always been a niche franchise.
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Post by Citizen Snips on May 27, 2024 19:38:11 GMT -5
It was fine but pretty forgettable.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 27, 2024 19:48:24 GMT -5
I really feel Marvel/Disney did a lot of damage for women who want to be leads in action movies. Everything the Marvel movies did wrong when establishing "Girl Boss" protagonists, this movie did right. Genuinely loved it I think audiences are generally tired of being preached to in various movies and this movie got caught up in that, despite not really doing that at all. If it came out a decade ago, After Mad Max and before the explosion of this culture war, it would have made money The box office in general is massively down compared to a decade ago. It's recovering from the pandemic numbers, but there's a lot obstacles in the way, foremost of which is folks have less money to go to the movies and don't have to wait six-plus months for a movie to hit the home market, movies are on streaming within a couple of months of the theatrical release (and often on VOD well before that). Furiosa's domestic opening is pretty much in line with Fury Road's opening when you factor in the drop in overall box office spending since 2014. Probably the worst thing that can be said is it has failed to expand upon its core audience, which I don't think is really all that surprising. Mad Max has always been a niche franchise. Nah easier to blame culture war.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 27, 2024 20:03:50 GMT -5
Nah easier to blame culture war. The funny thing is there was a ton of culture war shit going on around Fury Road, with the social media chuds decrying it "feminist propaganda" and celebrating when it lost money at the box office.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on May 28, 2024 4:28:06 GMT -5
Nah easier to blame culture war. The funny thing is there was a ton of culture war shit going on around Fury Road, with the social media chuds decrying it "feminist propaganda" and celebrating when it lost money at the box office. Even without the culture war stuff, I was greatly amused by the reactions from people that didn't get or like the Max character. Complaints about how he never talked or how the movie wasn't really about him. Max is such a pure and total wanderer archetype that not even his movies are about him, because he has no character arc. With the exception of the first movie, all three subsequent Mad Max films are about him getting involved in someone else's story, and then leaving again. Max himself never changes, never evolves; he is completely equal unto himself. If anything, Fury Road had rhe most Max story arc of them all, showing him returning from being the disconnected raging feral of a man to some semblance of a person. And his minimal talking definitely flies in the face of conventional action hero tropes, but is another correct and true aspect of his character.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 28, 2024 6:04:13 GMT -5
Even without the culture war stuff, I was greatly amused by the reactions from people that didn't get or like the Max character. Complaints about how he never talked or how the movie wasn't really about him. Max is such a pure and total wanderer archetype that not even his movies are about him, because he has no character arc. With the exception of the first movie, all three subsequent Mad Max films are about him getting involved in someone else's story, and then leaving again. Max himself never changes, never evolves; he is completely equal unto himself. If anything, Fury Road had rhe most Max story arc of them all, showing him returning from being the disconnected raging feral of a man to some semblance of a person. And his minimal talking definitely flies in the face of conventional action hero tropes, but is another correct and true aspect of his character. A lot of that also wound up being something of a happy accident. Miller himself admitted that he never actually intended Max to be this sort of campfire folk hero until he realised that having Mad Max 2 be the Feral Kid's (possibly unreliable) retelling of events reframed the entire character. He leaned into it further with Beyond Thunderdome being Savannah's retelling. Curiously, Fury Road might actually be the closest we've seen of the "real" Max since the first movie, since it's not a retelling of events by another character. If anything, Max himself is the narrator, though IIRC we only get his narration in the opening scene.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 28, 2024 8:03:47 GMT -5
It was fine but pretty forgettable. It'd be more palatable if I didn't think it'd be 6 to 10 years for another George Miller movie if we even get that at his age.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on May 28, 2024 8:05:31 GMT -5
Saw it yesterday and not as good a Fury Road and could have cut it down to 20 minutes but its got enough of what you want and shot well that you'd want to see it on a big screen.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 28, 2024 9:32:32 GMT -5
and could have cut it down 20 minutes I swear you could put this line in a review for 95% of modern movies and be accurate
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Post by thechase on May 28, 2024 9:51:32 GMT -5
Furiosa's domestic opening is pretty much in line with Fury Road's opening when you factor in the drop in overall box office spending since 2014. Probably the worst thing that can be said is it has failed to expand upon its core audience, which I don't think is really all that surprising. Mad Max has always been a niche franchise. "We don't need another movie"?
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Post by Limity (BLM) on May 28, 2024 17:47:33 GMT -5
Reading over the thread, it's cool to see some love for the Mad Max game, and frustrating to see how bad the publishers screwed up the release. This leading to poor sales, and cancelled DLC. :/
I love how they managed to make the wasteland so interesting, with the different environments. Especially the desert part, I had such fun flying around that area in the classic Max vehicle.
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Post by Banjo Is Broken on May 29, 2024 2:41:27 GMT -5
How high is Chris Hemsworths pain tolerance REALLY? Well only Anya Taylor Joy knows for sure. I heard she can do things with that robot arm.
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Post by Andew9001 on May 29, 2024 5:34:19 GMT -5
Just so happens the game is on sale on the NZ Xbox store for $8 so after hearing how underrated it is i thought what the heck. Will play it once the backlogs clear.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 29, 2024 14:20:20 GMT -5
I love how they managed to make the wasteland so interesting, with the different environments. Especially the desert part, I had such fun flying around that area in the classic Max vehicle. I'm replaying it now, and the amateur survivalist in me feels like it wouldn't be such a bad place to live, if one can overlook the lack of water and having to subsist of a diet of dog food, rats, lizards, and maggots.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on May 29, 2024 17:38:30 GMT -5
I think audiences are generally tired of being preached to in various movies and this movie got caught up in that, despite not really doing that at all. If it came out a decade ago, After Mad Max and before the explosion of this culture war, it would have made money The most successful movie at the box office last year was Barbie and it extensively talks about patriarchy.
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Post by chrom on May 29, 2024 17:41:50 GMT -5
I think audiences are generally tired of being preached to in various movies and this movie got caught up in that, despite not really doing that at all. If it came out a decade ago, After Mad Max and before the explosion of this culture war, it would have made money The most successful movie at the box office last year was Barbie and it extensively talks about patriarchy. And yet most people I've seen side with Ken.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on May 29, 2024 18:47:58 GMT -5
I love how they managed to make the wasteland so interesting, with the different environments. Especially the desert part, I had such fun flying around that area in the classic Max vehicle. I'm replaying it now, and the amateur survivalist in me feels like it wouldn't be such a bad place to live, if one can overlook the lack of water and having to subsist of a diet of dog food, rats, lizards, and maggots. Well then you're the first person I'm robbing out on the wasteland!
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Post by Ryushinku on May 30, 2024 5:52:22 GMT -5
With it opening so low (it's all relative, I know), I think at least the legs will be pretty good. Combined with the good reviews from both critics and the fanbase.
It's just still not going to be enough to save it from losing some serious dough. I think the appetite just wasn't there for it, in a way that a straight follow-up to Fury Road with Theron and Hardy would've been.
I also played that Mad Max game back at the time, played it a lot. Had a bunch of fun with it, in part because it made me go back and watch the original three films again and then Fury Road for the first time, as a build-up before playing.
Plus those War Criers had some hilarious lines.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 30, 2024 16:43:38 GMT -5
I think the appetite just wasn't there for it, in a way that a straight follow-up to Fury Road with Theron and Hardy would've been. Would there really have been that much more appetite, if any? Fury Road was a box office bomb, losing as much as $40 million at the box office. Hardy and Theron themselves are not box office draws, and Mad Max as a franchise has a fairly limited appeal, predominantly men in the 30-49 age bracket. Throw in the fact that 2022 and 2023 are the two lowest-grossing overall box office years adjusted for inflation since the 1980s (and since 2006 unadjusted) and that only a handful of movies with budgets over $150 million have made their money back, Furiosa's struggles seem to be just par for the course in the post-Covid world.
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Post by Ryushinku on May 31, 2024 4:37:06 GMT -5
I think there would've been at least more...!
Just yes, I still don't think has ever been a mega grosser franchise, as good as some of the films have been.
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