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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 12, 2023 19:05:49 GMT -5
So of all the tag team breakups in WWE history, is this man the greatest fall off?
Morrison. Morrison did win multiple titles and had runs in other companies as well that was memorable.
Anvil. They kept him off and on for years after the breakup. Always had some sort of role in the WWF as they would always take him back.
Jannetty. He won the WWF tag team titles with 1-2-3 Kid when the titles still meant something. And he was a former Intercontinental Champion.
Shad. This one was a raw deal. They just didn't give him enough time to do his "MY TIME, MY TIME" gimmick. I think it had potential.
Cass. Enzo got a title, but got first. Cass had a run and was going to get a big push, but the midget did him in.
Christian. Edge got the glory but Christian stayed prominent with some title wins here and there. Returns in 2009 as a bigger star and wins ECW in 2010 and WHC in 2011.
Matt Hardy. Reinvents himself as Mattitude. Had his peaks and valleys but did win the ECW title in 2008.
Tucker. Betrays Otis. Wins 24/7 title. One Andre the Giant Battle Royal. Released. Does anyone even remember all this?
Does Tucker take the cake for you as the worst falloff in WWE history for a wrestler in a tag team breakup?
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 12, 2023 19:11:56 GMT -5
If Cody finishes his story, then Damien Sandow has to be in running for biggest fall off. If Bitchhalla had existed in 2013, he would have ascended into it with his failed cash-in, becomes a stunt double, then becomes a cosplayer then leaves the company while his former tag team partner is the most over face in the company.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 12, 2023 19:15:43 GMT -5
If Cody finishes his story, then Damien Sandow has to be in running for biggest fall off. If Bitchhalla had existed in 2013, he would have ascended into it with his failed cash-in, becomes a stunt double, then becomes a cosplayer then leaves the company while his former tag team partner is the most over face in the company. Hot take: he was the weaker link in the 2015 Mega Powers revival. Axel-mania was never eliminated from the Royal Rumble. His partner couldn't say the same.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 19:20:55 GMT -5
I'll never forget Tucker making it to WWE 2K22 in spite of being fired 11 months before the game came out and still being based on his Heavy Machinery face persona even though Otis was already updated to Alpha Academy. Not sure if it counts as a 'breakup' but I wanna throw in Paul London's name to the conversation. The Brian Kendrick got drafted to and had a nice little push on Smackdown that he (apparently) ruined by smoking a little too much weed. Then he eventually got fired and came back several years later and was a featured player on the D-show 205 live, getting some more action figure and video game appearances and even holding the purple lil guyz belt. Paul London... did a job to Lance Cade in dirty wrestling shoes with no kickpads and no wristbands and was never seen again. At least Tucker had an actual heel turn, I guess? Edit- Not sure why his dirty wrestling shoes and bare calves have stood with me for years, but I've made an amazing discovery. He wore this poverty attire 7 days prior in a squash to Chris Jericho as well. Perhaps I should change my username/gimmick to "Paul London's Dirty Wrestling Shoes Circa July 14, 2008-July 21, 2008"
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Post by Andew9001 on Dec 12, 2023 19:31:00 GMT -5
Not the worst but does D-Von during his brief 2002 singles run qualify? Bubba Ray got a mini push and had matches with Triple H, won the Hardcore title, got a few ppv matches and was always featured on Raw.
D-Von became Reverend D-Von, teamed with Batista for a bit and then with Faarooq but never really had a sustained push. If they hadn't put he and Bubba back together i'm not sure where he would've gone.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 12, 2023 19:35:41 GMT -5
Not the worst but does D-Von during his brief 2002 singles run qualify? Bubba Ray got a mini push and had matches with Triple H, won the Hardcore title, got a few ppv matches and was always featured on Raw. D-Von became Reverend D-Von, teamed with Batista for a bit and then with Faarooq but never really had a sustained push. If they hadn't put he and Bubba back together i'm not sure where he would've gone.That was a weird time for a hot act per se in 2002. Dudleyz were still over and had no reason to breakup. If they never get back together I think both are released in 2003. Their value at the time was definitely as an act, not separately.
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Post by Andew9001 on Dec 12, 2023 19:44:57 GMT -5
Not the worst but does D-Von during his brief 2002 singles run qualify? Bubba Ray got a mini push and had matches with Triple H, won the Hardcore title, got a few ppv matches and was always featured on Raw. D-Von became Reverend D-Von, teamed with Batista for a bit and then with Faarooq but never really had a sustained push. If they hadn't put he and Bubba back together i'm not sure where he would've gone.That was a weird time for a hot act per se in 2002. Dudleyz were still over and had no reason to breakup. If they never get back together I think both are released in 2003. Their value at the time was definitely as an act, not separately. 2002 was a wild year for teams. Hardys broke up a few months in and Matt went to Smackdown. APA broke up in the draft. Dudleys broke up in the draft. Scotty and Albert broke up shortly after the draft. Edge and Christian were well and truly done by that point which led to Christian teaming with Lance Storm and then Jericho. Billy and Chuck ended late 2002 due to Billy getting injured. Bubba got all their schitck and made it work as a singles guy while D-Von had to build a character from scratch.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Dec 12, 2023 19:46:14 GMT -5
Mother Tucker had lots still left in the tank!
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 12, 2023 19:46:47 GMT -5
Cody betrayed Hardcore Holly and then never appeared on television again.
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Post by gl83 on Dec 12, 2023 19:53:01 GMT -5
I mean after he turned Heel, Tucker's first act was getting squashed by Ricochet and then getting rekt by Retribution. So, his future was in the gutters from the outset.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Dec 12, 2023 19:59:40 GMT -5
Tucker is the worst falloff, yes.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Dec 12, 2023 20:13:46 GMT -5
I love the Headbangers, but surely Thrasher has to be in the running? They at least attempted a push with Mosh (as bad as Beaver Cleavage was for a gimmick). Or does the team reuniting disqualify him?
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 12, 2023 20:20:13 GMT -5
Maybe not the worst ever but a big name that never gets mentioned in these type of threads? Greg “The Hammer” Valentine. Just sort of meandered around the midcard for years while Brutus the Barber became one of the most over acts in the company.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 12, 2023 20:44:03 GMT -5
If Cody finishes his story, then Damien Sandow has to be in running for biggest fall off. If Bitchhalla had existed in 2013, he would have ascended into it with his failed cash-in, becomes a stunt double, then becomes a cosplayer then leaves the company while his former tag team partner is the most over face in the company. I don’t think Sandow is the biggest falloff of the tag teams Cody has been with. I think that prize goes to Ted, that mfer is facing jail time lol
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Post by Stu on Dec 12, 2023 20:53:34 GMT -5
I consider Cody/Sandow a notch above a makeshift team but below a fulltime team. Sorta like Xpac/Kane and Bryan/Kane. Sure, they did more than just "Can they coexist?" but you knew they weren't sticking together for the longhaul. That's my way of saying Sandow isn't the answer to the OP's question.
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Post by Chiral on Dec 12, 2023 21:26:29 GMT -5
If they gave Tucker his depressed in a bar arc like I wanted he would have been a top tier bounce back from a team split.
The quickness in which they forgot about him betraying Otis and took him off TV is kind of impressive.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 12, 2023 21:33:10 GMT -5
If they gave Tucker his depressed in a bar arc like I wanted he would have been a top tier bounce back from a team split. The quickness in which they forgot about him betraying Otis and took him off TV is kind of impressive. Tucker'ed is definitely a WWE term now for someone who didn't make it outside of a tag team.
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Post by mountaindew on Dec 12, 2023 21:34:34 GMT -5
I guess Jannetty's career wasn't so bad after the Rockers split up. I wouldn't call it good, though.
Otis was always the star of that team. We always knew he'd be the break-out star. Tucker showed no signs of being marketable.
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Post by DichEvans on Dec 13, 2023 2:05:06 GMT -5
I love the Headbangers, but surely Thrasher has to be in the running? They at least attempted a push with Mosh (as bad as Beaver Cleavage was for a gimmick). Or does the team reuniting disqualify him?I mean, Mosh's push lasted like 3 weeks and involved him being investigated (in kayfabe) for a domestic violence issue against a love interest who was initially playing his mother. Thrasher not being involved in that seemed like a giant win to me...
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Post by DichEvans on Dec 13, 2023 2:07:12 GMT -5
I guess Jannetty's career wasn't so bad after the Rockers split up. I wouldn't call it good, though. Otis was always the star of that team. We always knew he'd be the break-out star. Tucker showed no signs of being marketable. The more I watch Marty's old work, the more I realize that he did not fail because he sucked. His matches alone were pretty good and he even had that really good one with Angle in 2006. He failed to go anywhere because he warped his brain with drugs/he was an idiot.
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