Fade
Patti Mayonnaise
Posts: 38,671
|
Post by Fade on Aug 15, 2024 1:07:49 GMT -5
If Vince passes away, I wonder how they'll handle it on WWE TV. With everything that happened, I think we get a "in memory" slide and that's it, not even a tribute video. Even that’s pushing it. I think the best course is putting out a statement via text or someone being completely transparent about everything including the allegations, but acknowledging his part in the company’s history. In memoriam picture. That’s it. Foo’s never seen again.
|
|
fw91
Crow T. Robot
FAN Idol All-Star: FAN Idol Season X and *Gavel* 2x Judges' Throwdown winner
Tribe has spoken for 2024 Mets
Posts: 40,168
Member is Online
|
Post by fw91 on Aug 15, 2024 1:14:13 GMT -5
If Vince passes away, I wonder how they'll handle it on WWE TV. With everything that happened, I think we get a "in memory" slide and that's it, not even a tribute video. Foo’s never seen again. Hey now, you leave Dave Grohl out of this.
|
|
Perd
Patti Mayonnaise
Leslie needs to butt out for fear of receiving The Bunghole Buster
Posts: 32,527
Member is Online
|
Post by Perd on Aug 15, 2024 1:21:48 GMT -5
I doubt they’d even acknowledge it. There’d be nothing to gain from it. At one time, they’d have treated his death like the death of a head of state. Now they hope that everyone will forget him and move on.
|
|
|
Post by King Devitt: What Plants Crave on Aug 15, 2024 1:44:15 GMT -5
Sure am glad he sold the family business, robbed his kids and grandkids of carrying on the legacy, all so he could get more money than he would ever know what to do with for no reason other than spite. I mean... do they want his legacy? Well we have the ability of hindsight here. But the WWE was a family business that everyone assumed would stay in the family. Passed to his kids (not Shane) and grandkids (okay maybe Shane then) they could have washed the stink of Vince off over time based off what we found out, and just how deep his depravity went. I'm pretty sure if WWE went on sale and was offered to Stephanie first (because f*** Vince), she would buy it in a heartbeat. The irony is had Vince kept it in the family, and stepped down, we may never have found out anything at all if the dominoes didn't fall the way they did. Maybe Janel would have still came forward, but who knows?
|
|
|
Post by Final Countdown Jones on Aug 15, 2024 2:32:33 GMT -5
I mean... do they want his legacy? Well we have the ability of hindsight here. But the WWE was a family business that everyone assumed would stay in the family. Passed to his kids (not Shane) and grandkids (okay maybe Shane then) they could have washed the stink of Vince off over time based off what we found out, and just how deep his depravity went. I'm pretty sure if WWE went on sale and was offered to Stephanie first (because f*** Vince), she would buy it in a heartbeat. The irony is had Vince kept it in the family, and stepped down, we may never have found out anything at all if the dominoes didn't fall the way they did. Maybe Janel would have still came forward, but who knows? Vince left a very tainted legacy, but that taint is still only a chapter of the McMahon legacy in northeastern sports that goes back to 1915 for pro wrestling, and even further back into sports in general in 1909. Well over a century's legacy of this one family handing down increasing amounts of power and building on what came before them. Triple H is overseeing a resurgence right now as booker, Steph was on the board until Vince's coup drove her back off; they were going to be able to move on from Vince and realize a new era. In time, yeah, their kids may have been more involved and more willing to be present. And Vince said 'nah f*** that I'm gonna sell it to Endeavor' and severed the connection fully, leaving only his son in law as booker, one misstep or political decision away from being cut out by the company's real owners and severing that connection in full. At any moment one man can just say "Nah actually you're out" and that link is severed. Vince got the company on a sweetheart deal from his dad, who took over the company after the passing of his dad. It's wildly f***ed up how much Vince buries his father's ground work when he talks about being the self-made man who took wrestling out of the bingo halls or whatever, and him refusing to give his children a similar opportunity so that he can make off with extra even more bonus money really speaks to just what kind of a man Vince is, and the actual respect he has for what he was able to build on top of.
|
|
|
Post by Feargus McReddit on Aug 15, 2024 5:58:18 GMT -5
Basically, even if they didn’t want it, he basically took away their ability to choose to succeed his legacy or not. Which is some Jack Warner levels of messed up.
|
|
salz4life
Grimlock
Prichard is a guy who gets that his job is to service his boss.
Posts: 14,487
|
Post by salz4life on Aug 15, 2024 7:40:28 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked if Vince died soon. It would remind me of Joe Paterno, former long time head football coach of Penn St. He resigned in disgrace after the Sandusky stuff came out and died shortly after. The WWE was Vince's life must like Penn St. football was Paterno's life. This doesn’t only effect people wrapped up in scandal. Charles Schulz, Vin Scully, John Madden all died not long after they did a final project/retired after working well into their senior years Bear Bryant of Alabama died weeks after he retired.
|
|
Legion
Fry's dog Seymour
Amy Pond's #1 fan
Hail Hydra!
Posts: 23,652
|
Post by Legion on Aug 15, 2024 8:18:32 GMT -5
Diminished capacity only works in criminal trials Which is the one Vince is going to to care about here - what the Feds may have on him. He'll eventually pay Janel Grant off, but his 'real' trouble is the Fed investigation going on alongside that.
|
|
|
Post by Lizuka #BLM on Aug 15, 2024 8:23:24 GMT -5
I'm perfectly okay with Vince drifting into the dust bin of history forgotten with his accomplishments diminished. When he dies just don't even bring it up, just go on with business as usual.
|
|
|
Post by ChitownKnight on Aug 15, 2024 10:19:52 GMT -5
It’s a damn shame that this is how the Vince McMahon legacy has to end. I’m sure the majority of us got brought in to wwe as kids and he created what wwe is today, but with all the lives that he harmed with sexual assault and other shady measures, he did it to himself
|
|
Fade
Patti Mayonnaise
Posts: 38,671
|
Post by Fade on Aug 15, 2024 10:23:22 GMT -5
It’s a damn shame that this is how the Vince McMahon legacy has to end. I’m sure the majority of us got brought in to wwe as kids and he created what wwe is today, but with all the lives that he harmed with sexual assault and other shady measures, he did it to himself He got his “wish”. Never acknowledged. Never inducted. Forgotten. Straight up thanos to dust shit.
|
|
|
Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 15, 2024 11:38:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked if Vince died soon. It would remind me of Joe Paterno, former long time head football coach of Penn St. He resigned in disgrace after the Sandusky stuff came out and died shortly after. The WWE was Vince's life must like Penn St. football was Paterno's life. Even when we last saw Vince on WWE TV, I thought his health was declining then, too. Yeah, when Vince was seen even here people were thinking he looked sick. For some people, their work is what keeps them going. Once they retire, they don't live long.
|
|
khali
Dennis Stamp
Posts: 4,938
Member is Online
|
Post by khali on Aug 15, 2024 12:07:20 GMT -5
I’m actually going to go against the grain here and say WWE will do some nice acknowledgement of Vince when he dies. Just seems like the kind of thing they would do.
|
|
|
Post by ChitownKnight on Aug 15, 2024 12:21:58 GMT -5
Even when we last saw Vince on WWE TV, I thought his health was declining then, too. Yeah, when Vince was seen even here people were thinking he looked sick. For some people, their work is what keeps them going. Once they retire, they don't live long. I feel like he’s been looking unhealthy since around 2020 or so. Remember that promo he had during HHH’s 25th anniversary
|
|
|
Post by THE FVNKER on Aug 15, 2024 12:44:32 GMT -5
Other posters on a wrestling forum that I’m typically not a fan of have posted a news article that she stated only last month (or relatively recently) that he was doing fine, and that this report is totally unsourced.
No idea if it’s true or not. I’m at the beach and don’t feel like looking it up, but here’s a crumb if anyone wants to look further.
|
|
|
Post by sdoyle7798 on Aug 15, 2024 13:05:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't be shocked if Vince died soon. It would remind me of Joe Paterno, former long time head football coach of Penn St. He resigned in disgrace after the Sandusky stuff came out and died shortly after. The WWE was Vince's life must like Penn St. football was Paterno's life. It was super disappointing to know that Joe knew. He was an absolute hero. And what's extra disappointing is that a lot of people here in the middle of Pennsyltucky defended him (and probably still defend him to this day). Reminds me of how some people still slobber Vince. Shit, my old boss said Paterno was a good man and got a raw deal. People are blinded by their idols.
|
|
|
Post by ChitownKnight on Aug 15, 2024 13:06:15 GMT -5
Other posters on a wrestling forum that I’m typically not a fan of have posted a news article that she stated only last month (or relatively recently) that he was doing fine, and that this report is totally unsourced. No idea if it’s true or not. I’m at the beach and don’t feel like looking it up, but here’s a crumb if anyone wants to look further. I mean he could have been fine a month ago and now start to deteriorate
|
|
Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
Posts: 122,296
|
Post by Mozenrath on Aug 15, 2024 13:11:15 GMT -5
I doubt they’d even acknowledge it. There’d be nothing to gain from it. At one time, they’d have treated his death like the death of a head of state. Now they hope that everyone will forget him and move on. I think they probably do a graphic, if only because they'll likely think it'll stand out more if they don't do it. Probably something value neutral like his picture, name, and year of birth and death.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2024 13:53:07 GMT -5
Other posters on a wrestling forum that I’m typically not a fan of have posted a news article that she stated only last month (or relatively recently) that he was doing fine, and that this report is totally unsourced. No idea if it’s true or not. I’m at the beach and don’t feel like looking it up, but here’s a crumb if anyone wants to look further. Yeah this report is basically "a friend of a friend of an ex-coworker of the long separated wife of..." that to me isn't really reliable. Plus by now the major sites would have jumped on this if true so I'm not placing a lot of stock in it.
|
|
Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
Posts: 122,296
|
Post by Mozenrath on Aug 15, 2024 14:03:28 GMT -5
Other posters on a wrestling forum that I’m typically not a fan of have posted a news article that she stated only last month (or relatively recently) that he was doing fine, and that this report is totally unsourced. No idea if it’s true or not. I’m at the beach and don’t feel like looking it up, but here’s a crumb if anyone wants to look further. Yeah this report is basically "a friend of a friend of an ex-coworker of the long separated wife of..." that to me isn't really reliable. Plus by now the major sites would have jumped on this if true so I'm not placing a lot of stock in it. Yeah, them not reporting it doesn't necessarily mean it's bogus, per se, but it's definitely pointing to it being very unsubstantiated. No one wants to attach their credibility to it.
|
|