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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 20, 2024 3:53:32 GMT -5
Turning Tiffany face against a heel trio of Nia, Candice, and Indi sounds interesting if that's what it's leading to. I was glad they gave Candice the win as it was the first potential intriguing development with the Smackdown women in quite a while. Nobody mattering other then Nia, Tiffany, Bayley, and Naomi was getting really old. Especially since other then Tiffany the other three are ancient in TV years. I wonder if they'd consider giving Bayley a run in NXT? If nothing else, there are a lot of fresh opponents for her there. In this era where so many talent's now have such long shelf life I don't get why they don't send stale main roster veterans down to NXT more. Gives them a fresh role and also allows the youngsters to get better by working with people better and more experienced then them. Becky's short run is a good example of that as both Tiffany and Lyra had their stocks rise working with her.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Oct 25, 2024 21:33:26 GMT -5
Stratton gets called out as a chump again for never beating Bayley and is left backstage to stew. She gets so much blowback for being a loser in promos; it's the strangest thing. It's gotta be purposeful but if it's for a faceturn I don't get the why. I don't have a spreadsheet at my beck and call ala Center but it's a cinch to see Tiffany gets owned on the regular.
*NEXT WEEK SPOILERS* {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Announces intentions to cash-in at Crown Jewel. Loses a match after a promo dustup to Liv Morgan so the latter can get laid out by Jax.
I dunno if she backs out after Nia scares her again, she steps up and loses as Tiffany is wont to do or wins, is immortalized in whatever bodysuit she pours herself into and goes down as prolly one of the weaker persons to successfully do so ever. Other than the obvious fashion accessory she hasn't accomplished anything as a heel on the main roster. If she loses maybe she'd at least have progression.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Oct 25, 2024 23:40:23 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with her failing. Not necessarily anyway. I halfways expect it. I wouldn't have said as much earlier in the year but Stratton being the first woman to drop the case could make a lot of sense to the story they're building, since the blueprints behind that tale seems to be a monument recounting the ways in which she s-u-c-k-s. Not even kidding. It comes to that I may nod my head & say "Yeah, that tracks". I don't buy a face turn rn unless Nia beats the piss out of her and she & her new best minions cost her the case to stop Tiffany's endless waffling and nip that nuisance forever. She's been floundering for months so if she chuffs it - so be it. Peeps pointing to the MitB as a parachute for her booking and it not deploying might be worth the fall.
I just want something positive with some meat on it to happen soon. I hope the Rhea tease come to fruition. And when you get to the grit I'm sure Jax will make a go at making Tiffy look golden when the switch happens. Probably not the "stupid bitch", Nia's pet and disrespected loser she been portrayed as (probably). Hitchin' my hopes to WarGames/Survivor Series.
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Regardless of outcome I'm glad she and Morgan get to scrap next week! Crossing my fingers she hits the PME - the (most) Postponed Moonsault Ever.
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Post by theironyuppie on Oct 26, 2024 0:58:09 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with her failing. Not necessarily anyway. I halfways expect it. I wouldn't have said as much earlier in the year but Stratton being the first woman to drop the case could make a lot of sense to the story they're building, since the blueprints behind that tale seems to be a monument recounting the ways in which she s-u-c-k-s. Not even kidding. It comes to that I may nod my head & say "Yeah, that tracks". I don't buy a face turn rn unless Nia beats the piss out of her and she & her new best minions cost her the case to stop Tiffany's endless waffling and nip that nuisance forever. She's been floundering for months so if she chuffs it - so be it. Peeps pointing to the MitB as a parachute for her booking and it not deploying might be worth the fall.
I just want something positive with some meat on it to happen soon. I hope the Rhea tease come to fruition. And when you get to the grit I'm sure Jax will make a go at making Tiffy look golden when the switch happens. Probably not the "stupid bitch", Nia's pet and disrespected loser she been portrayed as (probably). Hitchin' my hopes to WarGames/Survivor Series.
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Regardless of outcome I'm glad she and Morgan get to scrap next week! Crossing my fingers she hits the PME - the (most) Postponed Moonsault Ever.
It might not even be enough to be a hint, but it was notable that they had her wearing a Rhea-style outfit in the backstage segment.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 26, 2024 1:12:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I don’t want Tiffany being partnered up with Rhea. Can we just have her on her own?
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Oct 26, 2024 1:21:47 GMT -5
I'd def be down for Wargames at least as a pregame. So long as they don't scuff it into a lateral move from someone's pet to someone's b.
But I don't even know if that's under consideration soooooo...
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Oct 26, 2024 5:35:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure what to think. I could see her somehow costing Nia the match at Crown Jewel, whether intentionally or not, that at least seems quite likely, and then perhaps Nia takes her out the following Smackdown so that she's off TV for 3 episodes (15, 22, 29) and then returns at either Survivor Series or the Smackdown in her hometown on December 6th and maybe cashes in there if Nia has a title match with Naomi or someone, but she's 3-2-9 on TV since March 8th and she only joined the main roster on Feb 6th, so not like she has years of experience to draw on and already be established, so she would feel like the most random world champion of all time if she did win it soon.
Perhaps failing would be the best way to go. If she cashed in during a title match to make it a triple threat, but then someone like Trish cost her (with a triple threat being no DQ) and the other opponent took the pin and Tiffany could then go off and have a side feud with Trish or equivalent, that could be the best way to go. She doesn't feel ready at all to hold the belt because of her booking, so if she failed, but was protected in doing so, won the feud with whoever cost her, and then be built up fairly strong again in 2025, that might be the best way to go about things, but with how she's been booked, and who knows, it may well stem from that well documented incident, she'll probably be squashed by Nia when she comes to cash in, and it being emphasised that she was the first women to fail.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Oct 26, 2024 10:54:58 GMT -5
I don't subscribe to quite all that - I'm dippin' but historically we've been at polar ends of the DOOM spectrum - but understand how you got there. She just seems to get the short end a lot when it comes to wherever she's involved: promos, in-ring and backstage. I don't believe the perception rolls off as easily from Tiffany as to a master like Chelsea so she comes off as very buttmonkey-ish. So much so it's kinda playing tricks with my brain and I want to say Stratton has ostensibly had a hard time ever winning anything.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Oct 31, 2024 12:25:52 GMT -5
Breakdown of the Takedown with Tiffany Stratton this morning.
Chitty chat about having pretty new gear & being in Saudi Arabia for Crown Jewel. Take that as you will.
Feels like she's grown more in the eight months of being called up than in her entire time at NXT.
(sorry, editorializing)
More compliments towards Road Dogg for his assistance in her development. Says the most important things Greg Gagne taught her was to remain respectful and stay coachable.
Can't say if there are any plans for the Rhea Ripley odd couple to continue. Hopes it will though; loves their dynamic and reading the memes.
The Prettiest Moonsault Ever, its inspiration, why you went with it & were you concerned over using a high risk finisher?
Stratton: "I got the idea from my boyfriend, he had shown me the BME, the bouncing. I thought it was cool because it related to my past, my gymnastics quite a bit. It's not just doing a normal moonsault; you've gotta balance up the ropes and I was a trampoline gymnast.
I do get nervous sometimes after it's been like a twenty minute match and my legs feel like they're Jell-O! That's why sometimes you see my legs, like, split on the ropes when I go for it because my legs are so fatigued and I just throw myself over! BUT -- back in NXT I used to hit it so much more. I haven't hit the PME in a really long time being called up. It's been like four months I think. So the next time I hit it I'm definitely going to be very nervous too. It's mostly the rope jumps! After the last one I'm fine, but it's the jumping up the ropes; that's kinda scary! Yeah but definitely, it's definitely a scary move, that's for sure."
Acknowledgement of NXT doing so well right now, the women's division especially. May or may not pop up on the Philly show, you'll just have to wait and see.
Wants Charlotte at 'Mania, be it this one or one in the near future.
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There's also a NY Post interview going in-depth on a wider array of topics (playing second fiddle to Nia Jax / pressures of being new and the crowd reactions nudging her towards babyface / what match she's proudest of, what she's improved on on the main roster and who all she leans on for advice / etc.) but as that's already in text form I won't spoil it.
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Nov 1, 2024 21:33:08 GMT -5
Breakdown of the Takedown with Tiffany Stratton this morning.
Chitty chat about having pretty new gear & being in Saudi Arabia for Crown Jewel. Take that as you will.
Feels like she's grown more in the eight months of being called up than in her entire time at NXT.
(sorry, editorializing)
More compliments towards Road Dogg for his assistance in her development. Says the most important things Greg Gagne taught her was to remain respectful and stay coachable.
Can't say if there are any plans for the Rhea Ripley odd couple to continue. Hopes it will though; loves their dynamic and reading the memes.
The Prettiest Moonsault Ever, its inspiration, why you went with it & were you concerned over using a high risk finisher?
Stratton: "I got the idea from my boyfriend, he had shown me the BME, the bouncing. I thought it was cool because it related to my past, my gymnastics quite a bit. It's not just doing a normal moonsault; you've gotta balance up the ropes and I was a trampoline gymnast.
I do get nervous sometimes after it's been like a twenty minute match and my legs feel like they're Jell-O! That's why sometimes you see my legs, like, split on the ropes when I go for it because my legs are so fatigued and I just throw myself over! BUT -- back in NXT I used to hit it so much more. I haven't hit the PME in a really long time being called up. It's been like four months I think. So the next time I hit it I'm definitely going to be very nervous too. It's mostly the rope jumps! After the last one I'm fine, but it's the jumping up the ropes; that's kinda scary! Yeah but definitely, it's definitely a scary move, that's for sure."
Acknowledgement of NXT doing so well right now, the women's division especially. May or may not pop up on the Philly show, you'll just have to wait and see.
Wants Charlotte at 'Mania, be it this one or one in the near future.
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There's also a NY Post interview going in-depth on a wider array of topics (playing second fiddle to Nia Jax / pressures of being new and the crowd reactions nudging her towards babyface / what match she's proudest of, what she's improved on on the main roster and who all she leans on for advice / etc.) but as that's already in text form I won't spoil it. She did sound pretty annoyed when talking about the (lack of) PME. Felt like she was really emphasising the long time and 4 months bit.
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Nov 1, 2024 21:40:45 GMT -5
I already saw it a few days ago, but I thought that was probably the best she has sounded on the mic in an in ring type scenario. A bit crap the match only got like 2 minutes - I wasn't expecting a classic, but she really hasn't been allowed to have a good match on the main roster probably since Bianca way back in May. All her recent matches have been like 6 mins max with the main focus on her taking a roll up loss to prolong the story they are telling.
I really hope she doesn't cash in tomorrow with Survivor Series and Smackdown in Minnesota just around the corner. The crowd was lukewarm at best during that Nia-Liv kickoff promo earlier and I think it deserves a better surrounding if she is to cash in successfully. It looks like they are lining up Nia vs Naomi, so I would be quite surprised if she does cash in tomorrow, unless it's an actual proper failed attempt.
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Nov 2, 2024 21:24:51 GMT -5
The crowd wasn't too bad during the women's matches, but still pleased she didn't cash in. It definitely didn't feel the right time or (particularly) place.
I mentioned it earlier, but I can see Nia brutally taking Tiffany out on Friday out of frustration for losing this match so that Tiffany's written off TV for 3 or 4 weeks to further cement her face turn, add more heat to Nia, and to add a bit more if a surprise factor for when it does happen. I think Nia vs Naomi will be made for either Survivor Series or Dec 6 Smackdown and that's where the cash in happens.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 2, 2024 21:40:30 GMT -5
Nia needs to crush Tiffany, like... yesterday. Last few weeks really. Could we put a pin in or maybe make a reminder to do that?
She gets out-gambitted, out-wrestled and out-witted every week. Write her out by getting "betrayed" (by the person who's got good reason not to trust her after getting would-be cashed in again again again) and beat up already if you want to build whatever this is.
EDIT - Oh, haha. Didn't even know I was swimmin' in CotU's wake. Darn you for distracting me, WrestleMe!
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Post by 4real on Nov 2, 2024 22:36:06 GMT -5
She didn’t cash in but she might have had the best outfit of the night. Other than KO wearing Bob Orton’s shirt of course.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 3, 2024 3:53:32 GMT -5
She didn’t cash in but she might have had the best outfit of the night. Other than KO wearing Bob Orton’s shirt of course.I call shenanigans. No amount of bedazzler was beating that!
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Post by gl83 on Nov 3, 2024 20:38:49 GMT -5
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 3, 2024 23:46:04 GMT -5
Heh. Crowd noise worked for them there!
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Post by centeroftheuniverse on Nov 8, 2024 22:44:19 GMT -5
Well that was just about as worse as it could get, bar failing a cash in.
Match randomly thrown together, another entrance without her own music, barely ago got any offense in the match at all so no chance to shine, and thus, the crowd barely resonating with her, took yet another pin, this time a decisive one, and again, looks like a weak loser.
Candice being involved is dragging it down IMO as well. Really not sure where they are going with this, possibly war games, but they are doing their best to ruin a potential star. It's really strange booking.
Possibly end up cashing in on the midcard belt or something after taking the 6 month MITB losses and doesn't even get the big payoff.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 8, 2024 22:44:42 GMT -5
JEEZ LOUISE.
I think Stratton'll continue dropping pins as champ. They can make every match non-title so she doesn't break her cycle.
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Nov 8, 2024 23:08:51 GMT -5
Possibly end up cashing in on the midcard belt or something after taking the 6 month MITB losses and doesn't even get the big payoff. Nah.
I like to josh about her booking patterns but they aren't doin' that.
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