Jack Perry and the Butterfly Effect

[CeilingFan]

The theory is spreading!

[Kalmia]

I never thought I'd get bored of the whole CM Punk in AEW shitshow yet here we are.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Say what you will about a guy in his mid-twenties grabbing onto something hoping he can find a career hook in it or the merits of a worked shoot, but Punk trying to pull that crap is such a lamer look.

[Harry The Arrow was Wrong!]

God, Cultaholic really turned in to a complete wwe good/aew bad dumpster fire channel after Brawl Out. Tom is especially bad. The dude got so upset when Okada didn't sign with WWE lmao

They used to be a fun channel but I dunno man, gotta get them clicks I suppose.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 26, 2024 21:19:22 GMT -5 Harry The Arrow was Wrong! said:

God, Cultaholic really turned in to a complete wwe good/aew bad dumpster fire channel after Brawl Out. Tom is especially bad. The dude got so upset when Okada didn't sign with WWE lmao

They used to be a fun channel but I dunno man, gotta get them clicks I suppose.

This can be said about like everyone, too, so many pundits turned on AEW after Brawl Out. Look at how shitty Meltzer and Alvarez have become since that shit happened, they don't even have correct sources anymore.

Whole thing exposed "wrestling journalism" imo, and especially exposed people who are forced to admit their childhood or modern day favorite is a farce.

WWE got rid of Vince and got a better product and some of these guys wanna act like AEW was never good and it's embarrassing... they ride the hot hand and are incredibly fake about it all imo

[lucas_lee]

Mar 26, 2024 23:53:31 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mar 26, 2024 21:19:22 GMT -5 Harry The Arrow was Wrong! said:

God, Cultaholic really turned in to a complete wwe good/aew bad dumpster fire channel after Brawl Out. Tom is especially bad. The dude got so upset when Okada didn't sign with WWE lmao

They used to be a fun channel but I dunno man, gotta get them clicks I suppose.

This can be said about like everyone, too, so many pundits turned on AEW after Brawl Out. Look at how shitty Meltzer and Alvarez have become since that shit happened, they don't even have correct sources anymore.

Whole thing exposed "wrestling journalism" imo, and especially exposed people who are forced to admit their childhood or modern day favorite is a farce.

WWE got rid of Vince and got a better product and some of these guys wanna act like AEW was never good and it's embarrassing... they ride the hot hand and are incredibly fake about it all imo

That's an incredibly odd take. I listen to Alvarez and Meltzer occasionally and they praise AEW most of the time. Its just people take the clips of them offering critiques and don't show them praising because it doesn't get clicks.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Mar 26, 2024 16:57:36 GMT -5 markymark said:

He cant move on huh..

CM Punk holding onto something way longer than he should? I am shocked. SHOCKED

[dbsot]

Mar 26, 2024 16:57:36 GMT -5 markymark said:

He cant move on huh..

Punk was also the person who touted the 80k number leading up to All In. Him being a hypocrite is just his M.O. at this point.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 27, 2024 6:10:32 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 26, 2024 23:53:31 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

This can be said about like everyone, too, so many pundits turned on AEW after Brawl Out. Look at how shitty Meltzer and Alvarez have become since that shit happened, they don't even have correct sources anymore.

Whole thing exposed "wrestling journalism" imo, and especially exposed people who are forced to admit their childhood or modern day favorite is a farce.

WWE got rid of Vince and got a better product and some of these guys wanna act like AEW was never good and it's embarrassing... they ride the hot hand and are incredibly fake about it all imo

That's an incredibly odd take. I listen to Alvarez and Meltzer occasionally and they praise AEW most of the time. Its just people take the clips of them offering critiques and don't show them praising because it doesn't get clicks.

A lot of stuff that comes off as bad faith comes off incredibly forced from them and isn't even true or is badly sourced. This stuff didn't happen last year, so I feel like they pissed someone off 

My point stands, especially on others where it feels like they now take AEW super personally or drive it for hate clicks and it's beyond annoying.

[kingoftheindies]

Mar 27, 2024 6:10:32 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 26, 2024 23:53:31 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

This can be said about like everyone, too, so many pundits turned on AEW after Brawl Out. Look at how shitty Meltzer and Alvarez have become since that shit happened, they don't even have correct sources anymore.

Whole thing exposed "wrestling journalism" imo, and especially exposed people who are forced to admit their childhood or modern day favorite is a farce.

WWE got rid of Vince and got a better product and some of these guys wanna act like AEW was never good and it's embarrassing... they ride the hot hand and are incredibly fake about it all imo

That's an incredibly odd take. I listen to Alvarez and Meltzer occasionally and they praise AEW most of the time. Its just people take the clips of them offering critiques and don't show them praising because it doesn't get clicks.

I think they have some odd takes here and there that do pop up out of context, but I do maintain that there was something broken between Meltz/Alvarez and AEW because both of shows and interactions on Twitter both sides were very frosty towards each other

[lucas_lee]

Mar 27, 2024 9:30:37 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Mar 27, 2024 6:10:32 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

That's an incredibly odd take. I listen to Alvarez and Meltzer occasionally and they praise AEW most of the time. Its just people take the clips of them offering critiques and don't show them praising because it doesn't get clicks.

I think they have some odd takes here and there that do pop up out of context, but I do maintain that there was something broken between Meltz/Alvarez and AEW because both of shows and interactions on Twitter both sides were very frosty towards each other

Tony hasn't gone on Busted Open in like a year also. I think he's learning not to be as open with the media as he once was. Buy Meltz has his bad sources and he reports what info he's given. I mean he's doing his job. Is he doing it good? That's up to debate.

[eJm]

Mar 27, 2024 6:10:32 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 26, 2024 23:53:31 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

This can be said about like everyone, too, so many pundits turned on AEW after Brawl Out. Look at how shitty Meltzer and Alvarez have become since that shit happened, they don't even have correct sources anymore.

Whole thing exposed "wrestling journalism" imo, and especially exposed people who are forced to admit their childhood or modern day favorite is a farce.

WWE got rid of Vince and got a better product and some of these guys wanna act like AEW was never good and it's embarrassing... they ride the hot hand and are incredibly fake about it all imo

That's an incredibly odd take. I listen to Alvarez and Meltzer occasionally and they praise AEW most of the time. Its just people take the clips of them offering critiques and don't show them praising because it doesn't get clicks.

In people's defence, the main clips of the critiques are coming from their own YouTube page for that very reason.

It's very much like when places like WrestleTalk have clickbait banners, people call them out on it and then people reply in the comments "It's actually not that bad, they talk about this in a positive light" and it's like "Well, ok, why are you trying to gain attention with the other stuff then?"

[lucas_lee]

Mar 27, 2024 8:06:59 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mar 27, 2024 6:10:32 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

That's an incredibly odd take. I listen to Alvarez and Meltzer occasionally and they praise AEW most of the time. Its just people take the clips of them offering critiques and don't show them praising because it doesn't get clicks.

A lot of stuff that comes off as bad faith comes off incredibly forced from them and isn't even true or is badly sourced. This stuff didn't happen last year, so I feel like they pissed someone off 

My point stands, especially on others where it feels like they now take AEW super personally or drive it for hate clicks and it's beyond annoying.

They've made up and made situations about WWE sound worse than they are too. They get fed bad Intel or someone who likes to mess with them. How is it bad faith if they're doing their jobs and giving what their sources fed them? It's not like Konan whose a known liar. Dave has gotten things right that are retroactively confirmed.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 27, 2024 9:43:20 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 27, 2024 8:06:59 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

A lot of stuff that comes off as bad faith comes off incredibly forced from them and isn't even true or is badly sourced. This stuff didn't happen last year, so I feel like they pissed someone off 

My point stands, especially on others where it feels like they now take AEW super personally or drive it for hate clicks and it's beyond annoying.

They've made up and made situations about WWE sound worse than they are too. They get fed bad Intel or someone who likes to mess with them. How is it bad faith if they're doing their jobs and giving what their sources fed them? It's not like Konan whose a known liar. Dave has gotten things right that are retroactively confirmed.

I'm not comparing him to Konnan I'm saying whatever relationship he's had with AEW has degraded and it's noticeable. It's felt like some things are said in bad faith or just not knowing the actual story and this hasn't just been a trend with AEW it's just been him overall especially since 2024 started

[kingoftheindies]

Mar 27, 2024 9:41:52 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 27, 2024 9:30:37 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

I think they have some odd takes here and there that do pop up out of context, but I do maintain that there was something broken between Meltz/Alvarez and AEW because both of shows and interactions on Twitter both sides were very frosty towards each other

Tony hasn't gone on Busted Open in like a year also. I think he's learning not to be as open with the media as he once was. Buy Meltz has his bad sources and he reports what info he's given. I mean he's doing his job. Is he doing it good? That's up to debate.

Oh to be clear I'm not even talking g about being critical or bad information (though when Meltz/Alvarez get it wrong they get it really wrong) I'm more just talking from watching the shows a few months ago it did feel like things were... off.

Now in fairness I think many if any issues stem from FTR doing their Punk defenses but still felt like things got way too personal

[Cyno]

Mar 27, 2024 8:03:34 GMT -5 dbsot said:

Mar 26, 2024 16:57:36 GMT -5 markymark said:

He cant move on huh..

Punk was also the person who touted the 80k number leading up to All In. Him being a hypocrite is just his M.O. at this point.

I guarantee you that if Cornette wasn't kissing his ass or hating the same enemies, Punk would be a lot more vocal against Jimbo's various bigotries.

[markymark]

CM Punk's return to pro wrestling at "AEW Rampage: The First Dance" was met with positivity and excitement. Unfortunately, this run ended with Punk being fired from AEW after getting into his worst backstage altercation. In a recent interview with "For The Love of Wrestling," Johnny TV gave his take on why Punk's AEW run ended in controversy.

"I have no problem with Punk," Johnny TV asserted. He then recalled reaching out to Punk to hang out after his reported backstage altercation with Jack Perry at All In before being made aware of his firing. Unfortunately, those plans fell through. In terms of their relationship, Johnny TV claims they weren't close when they first met but ended up becoming friends. "We ended up riding together for two years –- me, him, and [Luke] Gallows."

Despite their friendship, Johnny TV believes Punk's ego got in the way regarding his backstage troubles in AEW. "I just feel like he kind of lost it. I feel like he went too far in the direction of, 'I want this for me. I'm the best.' Believing his own hype, clearly like when he decided to be a UFC fighter, believed his own hype took over, like not thinking through."

Johnny TV then clarified his stance on Punk and noted how he's friends with those who have issues with "The Second City Saint" in AEW. "Aside from that, can't say too much about him, other than we rode together, got along, he's a divisive, polarizing figure. The people that don't like him I'm friends with, and they have very solid points. I'll leave it at that."

[Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000]

Mar 26, 2024 18:40:42 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

I never thought I'd get bored of the whole CM Punk in AEW shitshow yet here we are.

I've been over it for a while now.

[markymark]

[Doo Doo is Worse Than WCW 2000]

What a rebel. I bet he even drinks milk from the carton.