Owen Hart in the Nation of Domination,,why?

[wildojinx]

Why did they put Owen Hart in the Nation of Domination in 1998? I mean, if they wanted to turn Owen heel then fine, but why have him join the NOD, especially when that organization would be dead by fall?

[Allie Kitsune]

Because Enough was Enough, and it was Time for a Change.

[Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast]

Because he was the Blackhart

[LiamMcDuggle]

It was two fold. The Rock never liked the racial element to the group and without Farooq in the group, it did not really have a veteran in it. D'LO was the most senior member in the group with 5 years experience.

Bruce pretty much said Owen was there to be a tutor for The Rock and just keep him on the right path.


The group can lose it's racial tones with Owen and also he was able to mentor the Rock.

[DSR]

Feb 12, 2024 2:30:21 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

It was two fold. The Rock never liked the racial element to the group and without Farooq in the group, it did not really have a veteran in it. D'LO was the most senior member in the group with 5 years experience.

Bruce pretty much said Owen was there to be a tutor for The Rock and just keep him on the right path.


The group can lose it's racial tones with Owen and also he was able to mentor the Rock.

Also, in kayfabe, Owen was feuding with DX. The Nation was feuding with DX. Better to join forces than try to take them on alone.

[mcmahonfan85]

because he smelled what The Rock was cookin'! i mean did you see how big his damn nose was? what the hell was he, an aardvark?! wooooooo!!!

[Woo]

Because he's the Black Hart.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Nobody nose.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

To prove he wasn’t a nugget.

[fg]

Feb 12, 2024 2:41:56 GMT -5 DSR said:

Feb 12, 2024 2:30:21 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

It was two fold. The Rock never liked the racial element to the group and without Farooq in the group, it did not really have a veteran in it. D'LO was the most senior member in the group with 5 years experience.

Bruce pretty much said Owen was there to be a tutor for The Rock and just keep him on the right path.


The group can lose it's racial tones with Owen and also he was able to mentor the Rock.

Also, in kayfabe, Owen was feuding with DX. The Nation was feuding with DX. Better to join forces than try to take them on alone.

Actually, the Nation wasn’t feuding with DX before Owen joined. It was only after he joined that they feuded with DX. That’s how I remember it.

[kingoftheindies]

Feb 12, 2024 2:30:21 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

It was two fold. The Rock never liked the racial element to the group and without Farooq in the group, it did not really have a veteran in it. D'LO was the most senior member in the group with 5 years experience.

Bruce pretty much said Owen was there to be a tutor for The Rock and just keep him on the right path.


The group can lose it's racial tones with Owen and also he was able to mentor the Rock.

Dunno if it's still up, but years ago someone posted all the segments in chronological order on youtube leading to Owen joining the Nation. It was made pretty clear that Owen was tired of constantly being out numbered and getting attacked from behind. I forget the ppv but he was attacked by I believe a debuting X-Pac at one of the post Mania PPVs and Michael Cole interviewed him and he said something had to change. At least early on when he joined the Nation there were times when commentary pointed out that A)Owen was one of the few people Rock respected and B)Owen was the Co-Ruler of the Nation.

That was all dropped fairly quick to hype up Rock vs Triple H but early on it was made about Owen wanting back up

[Sephiroth]

To use his history with DX to kick off the feud

[DSR]

Feb 12, 2024 6:31:30 GMT -5 fg said:

Feb 12, 2024 2:41:56 GMT -5 DSR said:

Also, in kayfabe, Owen was feuding with DX. The Nation was feuding with DX. Better to join forces than try to take them on alone.

Actually, the Nation wasn’t feuding with DX before Owen joined. It was only after he joined that they feuded with DX. That’s how I remember it.

Ah, I misremembered then. Sorry.

[Wardlow on Wardlow 54]

Feb 12, 2024 8:35:24 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Feb 12, 2024 2:30:21 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

It was two fold. The Rock never liked the racial element to the group and without Farooq in the group, it did not really have a veteran in it. D'LO was the most senior member in the group with 5 years experience.

Bruce pretty much said Owen was there to be a tutor for The Rock and just keep him on the right path.


The group can lose it's racial tones with Owen and also he was able to mentor the Rock.

Dunno if it's still up, but years ago someone posted all the segments in chronological order on youtube leading to Owen joining the Nation. It was made pretty clear that Owen was tired of constantly being out numbered and getting attacked from behind. I forget the ppv but he was attacked by I believe a debuting X-Pac at one of the post Mania PPVs and Michael Cole interviewed him and he said something had to change. At least early on when he joined the Nation there were times when commentary pointed out that A)Owen was one of the few people Rock respected and B)Owen was the Co-Ruler of the Nation.

That was all dropped fairly quick to hype up Rock vs Triple H but early on it was made about Owen wanting back up

He also inherited The Nation's feud with Ken Shamrock by turning on him to join them. One match they did that I liked at the time was Owen vs. Shamrock vs. Triple H to decide who was the best King of the Ring. And they also had the four-way for the Tag Titles that was advertised with Rock and Owen teaming up, but then Shamrock attacked Owen during the entrances. It was that type of cross-pollination that I miss about the Attitude Era.

[Milkman Norm]

It's weird how the fued went from Shawn vs Bret, to Owen vs Shawn, to HHH vs Owen, to Nation vs DX, to Rock vs HHH.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Feb 12, 2024 19:50:15 GMT -5 Milkman Norm said:

It's weird how the fued went from Shawn vs Bret, to Owen vs Shawn, to HHH vs Owen, to Nation vs DX, to Rock vs HHH.

You probably never saw Punk cutting a promo on Cena leading to Nash v. Triple either…

[Aceorton]

"Ha ha, a white guy joining a black militant faction!" HAD to have been part of the thinking there. You can't tell me Russo wasn't slapping his leg over that, even if there were other benefits to Owen being paired with them.

[wildojinx]

Feb 13, 2024 10:24:07 GMT -5 Aceorton said:

"Ha ha, a white guy joining a black militant faction!" HAD to have been part of the thinking there. You can't tell me Russo wasn't slapping his leg over that, even if there were other benefits to Owen being paired with them.

Crush and PG-13 were part of the original Nation.

[Aceorton]

Feb 13, 2024 10:30:16 GMT -5 wildojinx said:

Feb 13, 2024 10:24:07 GMT -5 Aceorton said:

"Ha ha, a white guy joining a black militant faction!" HAD to have been part of the thinking there. You can't tell me Russo wasn't slapping his leg over that, even if there were other benefits to Owen being paired with them.

Crush and PG-13 were part of the original Nation.

Let me rephrase. "An unhip white guy joining a black militant faction." Crush and PG-13 had some "gang cred." And don't forget, they and Savio were booted to make the Nation blacker.

[tirtefaa]

Feb 13, 2024 10:32:07 GMT -5 Aceorton said:

Feb 13, 2024 10:30:16 GMT -5 wildojinx said:

Crush and PG-13 were part of the original Nation.

Let me rephrase. "An unhip white guy joining a black militant faction." Crush and PG-13 had some "gang cred." And don't forget, they and Savio were booted to make the Nation blacker.

But without Faarooq as their leader, that message was severely severely diluted. Rock treated the group as a means to protect his Intercontinental title rather than a group with a serious message.