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Post by King Devitt on Feb 26, 2024 21:12:16 GMT -5
It's a double edge sword for me.
It definitely should stay open because I've always been of the mind that segregated wrestling companies were silly.
But it makes signings like Ospreay or Okada feel less 'WOW!' because it feels like a lateral move at best.
But to counterpoint myself it makes sense because they've been there, and have a comfort level with the company.
So, no, keep the door open. And as long as TK isn't going "CM PUNK! CM PUNK!" backstage whenever the dude walked by let him mark out as much as he wants about the sport he loves.
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Post by CeilingFan on Feb 27, 2024 5:29:03 GMT -5
Companies that are partners with AEW :
New Japan. CMLL Mexico. RevPro UK. PWG.
Am I forgetting anyone?
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Post by lucas_lee on Feb 27, 2024 7:31:31 GMT -5
Companies that are partners with AEW : New Japan. CMLL Mexico. RevPro UK. PWG. Am I forgetting anyone? Occasionally they lend out Mox and other talents to GCW.
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Post by jean0987654321 on Feb 27, 2024 12:16:27 GMT -5
Companies that are partners with AEW : New Japan. CMLL Mexico. RevPro UK. PWG. Am I forgetting anyone? AAA DDT
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Post by Hunch back of Notredomus on Feb 27, 2024 14:52:52 GMT -5
Companies that are partners with AEW : New Japan. CMLL Mexico. RevPro UK. PWG. Am I forgetting anyone? AAA DDT Noah I believe but don’t quote me.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 28, 2024 14:05:23 GMT -5
Noah I believe but don’t quote me. It's a strange set-up. DDT, TJPW and Noah are all under the cyberfight umbrella but I think only the first two have formal partnerships. I beleive only Sting, Darby, Muta and Timothy Thatcher have actually done anything but that was seemingly enough for noah to check with aew before they had a wwe wrestler appear. The noah, cmll and aew luchadors on one show would be amazing. As would aaa but that seems even more unlikely. Anyway it all shows there's levels from proper partnerships like njpw to looser working relationships
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 28, 2024 17:05:29 GMT -5
Apparently the United States government believes it's time to close the door:
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 28, 2024 17:09:09 GMT -5
Looks like an indie that was using them and sponsoring the visas had some issues and CMLL has gone silent on him. Wouldn't be surprised if AEW ends up being the new sponsor of those applications
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Feb 28, 2024 17:32:52 GMT -5
Tony needs to pony up with the funds.
As for who snitched... I know mad eyes are staring at Konnan.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Feb 29, 2024 18:14:41 GMT -5
I’m split because on one hand it’s cool to see companies mix up but on the other hand AEW has enough girls & guys on their roster as is (This AEW vs CMLL thing I don’t really think it’s going to capture anything but a niche market and you could have had several matches instead of Jericho vs Atlantis Jr in what was essentially a throw away match in last match on Dynamite before the PPV)….and the more you do this, the less forbidden it becomes
Alternatively if you do it, do it better. Instead of having random (I don’t mean that is a disrespectful way, I just meant from the POV of someone who doesn’t know the roster) guys from CMLL or another promotion show up out of nowhere. Pick a group of them and focus on them, their skills and what they want to do in AEW instead of swapping them out week after week
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Mar 1, 2024 11:22:17 GMT -5
Fumbling and Stumbling AAA strikes again.
I know, talent freeze, but Arez is borderline Hechicero level. Tony would be crazy to let him by.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 1, 2024 11:47:42 GMT -5
Fumbling and Stumbling AAA strikes again. I know, talent freeze, but Arez is borderline Hechicero level. Tony would be crazy to let him by. Really interesting is the implication that the big issue was that Konnan couldn't get them booked with AEW so they walked. If true, it says some wild things about how much power Konnan has rightfully lost with his relentless bullshittery and dirtsheet games in regards to AEW, and does nothing to avoid the optics that the AAA deal has regressed to 'keep it for access to Vikingo until we can lure him away with a real payday and finally dump Konnan entirely'
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 1, 2024 12:22:13 GMT -5
Arez would be a great addition to aew, has a unique "strange style", like Hechicero he regulary does things I've never seen before. He has great chemistry with Komander
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Mar 1, 2024 12:47:43 GMT -5
Arez would be a great addition to aew, has a unique "strange style", like Hechicero he regulary does things I've never seen before. He has great chemistry with Komander I just watched this like 10 times, that's some real life, cartoon physics there.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 1, 2024 12:56:04 GMT -5
Arez would be a great addition to aew, has a unique "strange style", like Hechicero he regulary does things I've never seen before. He has great chemistry with Komander Nah this shit is straight up a finishing move out of No More Heroes lmao.
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Post by The anti-ratings Luddite on Mar 1, 2024 13:14:06 GMT -5
Fumbling and Stumbling AAA strikes again. I know, talent freeze, but Arez is borderline Hechicero level. Tony would be crazy to let him by. Really interesting is the implication that the big issue was that Konnan couldn't get them booked with AEW so they walked. If true, it says some wild things about how much power Konnan has rightfully lost with his relentless bullshittery and dirtsheet games in regards to AEW, and does nothing to avoid the optics that the AAA deal has regressed to 'keep it for access to Vikingo until we can lure him away with a real payday and finally dump Konnan entirely' I'm not going to defend it OR attack it, but it seems like Tony Khan is pulling an 80's Vince a lot of times. "I can afford to pay your talent a hell of a lot more than you can, so you can either partner with me and I'll send some names down to Mexico/Japan/GCW/Wherever, or I can just snap your top guys up as soon as their contracts are done" Although I guess he's pulling more of a Vince Sr, because I've heard Sr would make it known to the territories who he wanted, and the smart ones would graciously let their talent go after honoring their bookings because Vince Sr would often send Andre down to work some shots for them.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 1, 2024 14:19:38 GMT -5
Not a good week for the Big Two Mexican promotions. Though CMLL's f***up is a lot worse than AAA's/Konnan's. Like Konnan's is stubbing a toe while CMLL's is like shooting a gun at it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Mar 1, 2024 14:23:31 GMT -5
Really interesting is the implication that the big issue was that Konnan couldn't get them booked with AEW so they walked. If true, it says some wild things about how much power Konnan has rightfully lost with his relentless bullshittery and dirtsheet games in regards to AEW, and does nothing to avoid the optics that the AAA deal has regressed to 'keep it for access to Vikingo until we can lure him away with a real payday and finally dump Konnan entirely' I'm not going to defend it OR attack it, but it seems like Tony Khan is pulling an 80's Vince a lot of times. "I can afford to pay your talent a hell of a lot more than you can, so you can either partner with me and I'll send some names down to Mexico/Japan/GCW/Wherever, or I can just snap your top guys up as soon as their contracts are done" Although I guess he's pulling more of a Vince Sr, because I've heard Sr would make it known to the territories who he wanted, and the smart ones would graciously let their talent go after honoring their bookings because Vince Sr would often send Andre down to work some shots for them. Yeah it's complex. Most wrestlers will want to go to aew regardless. Especially those that were based in Japan with current exchange rates, even indies seem more lucrative than having a Japanese contract for most. At least this way they see out contracts, continue to work indies and maybe do cross branded shows etc. Doesn't stop me wishing Nick Wayne and Billie Starkz had more time dedicated to gcw or more trips abroad. Billie in particular as she's on roh and not on tv. But better that than being exclusive to wwe and never getting to go back. Potential competition from wwe, or even tna, mlw etc means aew can't wait either. It helps boost other promotions profiles too. I'd never have got into most of those I watch now without aew. It's basically the nicest form of a big company picking the best talent.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 1, 2024 14:26:16 GMT -5
Not a good week for the Big Two Mexican promotions. Though CMLL's f***up is a lot worse than AAA's/Konnan's. Like Konnan's is stubbing a toe while CMLL's is like shooting a gun at it. It occurs to me that CMLL can probably get away with a lot more bullshit if nobody really wants to work with Konnan in AAA.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 1, 2024 14:35:47 GMT -5
Really interesting is the implication that the big issue was that Konnan couldn't get them booked with AEW so they walked. If true, it says some wild things about how much power Konnan has rightfully lost with his relentless bullshittery and dirtsheet games in regards to AEW, and does nothing to avoid the optics that the AAA deal has regressed to 'keep it for access to Vikingo until we can lure him away with a real payday and finally dump Konnan entirely' I'm not going to defend it OR attack it, but it seems like Tony Khan is pulling an 80's Vince a lot of times. "I can afford to pay your talent a hell of a lot more than you can, so you can either partner with me and I'll send some names down to Mexico/Japan/GCW/Wherever, or I can just snap your top guys up as soon as their contracts are done" Although I guess he's pulling more of a Vince Sr, because I've heard Sr would make it known to the territories who he wanted, and the smart ones would graciously let their talent go after honoring their bookings because Vince Sr would often send Andre down to work some shots for them. Definitely feels like more of a Vince Sr kind of thing. He's not doing crazy pillage things, but he is building those relationships and making big plays for talent he feels are worth the jump, and bringing in paydays for guys in the meantime, while sending off talent when asked to other promotions. When the AAA deal (and Kenny) was healthy, they were getting Kenny whenever they wanted. Co-promoted shows help a lot too, I think, in it not feeling so one-sided. Vince Jr used any deal he cut with a promotion to ultimately consume and render obsolete anyone foolish enough to do business with him, Sr respected the ecosystem enough to know how to play ball and not call every shot. If the AAA deal is going south, it's likely due to Konnan's behavior more than Tony tightening up his grip, for instance.
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