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Post by Fade on Feb 15, 2024 23:09:31 GMT -5
What metric it’s being judged upon is important.
For me, it’s easily the most anticipated since Hogan/Rock at 18. If you don’t count that, then since Austin/Rock at 17. Could it be greater than those two? Could be, honestly. Execution pending.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 15, 2024 23:48:30 GMT -5
What metric it’s being judged upon is important. For me, it’s easily the most anticipated since Hogan/Rock at 18. If you don’t count that, then since Austin/Rock at 17. Could it be greater than those two? Could be, honestly. Execution pending. Assuming Cody wins, that pop is going to be incredible. I guess Cena/Rock, Austin/Rock etc were bigger matches but the ending (assuming Cody wins) will be a bigger moment than the ending to Mania 17 and 28
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 15, 2024 23:51:01 GMT -5
What metric it’s being judged upon is important. For me, it’s easily the most anticipated since Hogan/Rock at 18. If you don’t count that, then since Austin/Rock at 17. Could it be greater than those two? Could be, honestly. Execution pending. Assuming Cody wins, that pop is going to be incredible. I guess Cena/Rock, Austin/Rock etc were bigger matches but the ending (assuming Cody wins) will be a bigger moment than the ending to Mania 17 and 28 I mean, if you’re going by crowd pops, then your comparison benchmark wouldn’t necessarily be WM3, but WM30.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 15, 2024 23:54:26 GMT -5
Assuming Cody wins, that pop is going to be incredible. I guess Cena/Rock, Austin/Rock etc were bigger matches but the ending (assuming Cody wins) will be a bigger moment than the ending to Mania 17 and 28 I mean, if you’re going by crowd pops, then your comparison benchmark wouldn’t necessarily be WM3, but WM30. I guess crowd pops and historical significance. Cody beating Roman and ending his near 4 year long reign would be bigger than Bryan winning at 30.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Feb 16, 2024 0:23:26 GMT -5
I mean, if you’re going by crowd pops, then your comparison benchmark wouldn’t necessarily be WM3, but WM30. I guess crowd pops and historical significance. Cody beating Roman and ending his near 4 year long reign would be bigger than Bryan winning at 30. I guarantee you that Cody kicking out of a spear at 2.999999999999999 will be a pop that nearly matches the one if he does win.
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Post by Fade on Feb 16, 2024 0:53:12 GMT -5
I mean, if you’re going by crowd pops, then your comparison benchmark wouldn’t necessarily be WM3, but WM30. I guess crowd pops and historical significance. Cody beating Roman and ending his near 4 year long reign would be bigger than Bryan winning at 30. Fans online have been toying around with the idea of it being overbooked to the gills. Bloodline coming in. Codyvengers. The rock, etc. it really could be an all timer.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 16, 2024 1:00:56 GMT -5
I’d say it would likely fall behind Hogan/Andre and Rock/Austin at X-7, but might be a more enjoyable watch than either depending on how it goes.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 16, 2024 1:22:42 GMT -5
Do I think it could be *a* big deal? Yeah, it's hotter than many of the main events they've had in the past 10+ years, sure, but I don't think it's Andre vs Hulk big, no.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Feb 16, 2024 1:23:08 GMT -5
No
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Feb 16, 2024 4:45:37 GMT -5
I would argue Savage/Hogan two years later was bigger and might have been even bigger than Hogan/Andre. I saw this for the first time a couple weeks back. I don't know how it took me so long, but man is it an intense bout. Savage is absolutely on top of his game in this. The only thing I'd change is have a slight fake out at the end. Hogan starts to Hulk up, he throws Savage to the ropes and goes for the big boot. Savage rolls through and schoolboys Hogan, who kicks out at 2. Savage get some blows in, putting Hogan to one knee, and hits the ropes. As Savage comes back Hogan hits the big boot and then the leg drop. I think that added sequence would have added that extra bit of drama. Otherwise it was fantastic.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 16, 2024 5:47:40 GMT -5
Do I think it could be *a* big deal? Yeah, it's hotter than many of the main events they've had in the past 10+ years, sure, but I don't think it's Andre vs Hulk big, no. Yeah, you are basically asking if it's going to be bigger than the thing that made Wrestlemania what it is. Where things like just the opening Staredown has been referenced for like 30 years after the fact by none wrestling fans.
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Post by papagiorgio on Feb 16, 2024 7:13:36 GMT -5
I probably wouldn't even put Hogan / Andre in my top 20. Then, you probably weren't a wrestling fan in 1987. Cody vs. Roman has a top 10 chance. It will be more like Daniel Byran when he won.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Feb 16, 2024 8:53:27 GMT -5
I think it's hard to compare just because of the abundance of media now. Everything feels like a big deal if you're in the right bubble. In terms of appeal and/or awareness in the general sports and entertainment zeitgeist, I think the benchmarks are Rock/Cena I, Austin/HBK/Tyson, and really any of the first 5 Wrestelmanias when they were still doing sizable closed circuit attendance.
I think the difference now might be that the general non-wrestling public and sports media seems to "get" wrestling these days in a way they didn't back then. The first 5 Wrestlemanias and Austin/HBK/Tyson were covered by the sports media quite a bit in newspapers around the country, but the tone was more often than not "Can you believe there are so many idiots who enjoy this stuff?". Now, and really for Rock/Cena, the coverage is much more positive and seems to try to join into the fun.
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Post by tafkaga on Feb 16, 2024 9:07:49 GMT -5
Not a chance. I haven't really been watching for a few years, so it doesn't even seem that big to me. It's big inside the wrestling bubble, sure.
Hogan vs. Andre was a match that even casuals and barely-watchers knew was about the biggest match that could be booked.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 16, 2024 9:53:59 GMT -5
Do I think it could be *a* big deal? Yeah, it's hotter than many of the main events they've had in the past 10+ years, sure, but I don't think it's Andre vs Hulk big, no. Yeah, you are basically asking if it's going to be bigger than the thing that made Wrestlemania what it is. Where things like just the opening Staredown has been referenced for like 30 years after the fact by none wrestling fans. To be fair, the title of the thread is “since Hogan/Andre”, meaning the OP thinks Hogan/Andre is still bigger.
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Post by Vincent Whiney on Feb 16, 2024 9:54:58 GMT -5
No. Hogan and Andre were household names, larger-than-life wrestlers, it was like Godzilla fighting King Kong. It was the biggest match in history. It would be like if Taylor Swift fought Beyonce at the Grammys. Thats how huge Mania 3 was. As mainstream as WWE is right now. This isn't even Rock vs. Austin, Rock vs. Cena, or Hogan vs. The Rock. Nobody knows Roman has been champion for four years, nobody knows who Cody Rhodes is, maybe they saw his reality show or when he was a judge on that one game show. Outside our little bubble it might get some media traction that people want Cody over the Rock, but people have already moved on to hating on Madaam Webb. Now I want Taylor Swift vs. Beyoncé at Wrestlemania next year!
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Post by J is Justice on Feb 16, 2024 10:51:45 GMT -5
You mean since Mercedes vs Bianca.
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Post by clc on Feb 16, 2024 12:06:37 GMT -5
No. Hogan vs Andre at Wrestlemania III is the most iconic wrestling match of all time.
Everyone and their Grandmother knew Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant. My mom don't know who Cody Rhodes or Roman Reigns is. Different times.
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Post by tafkaga on Feb 16, 2024 12:30:00 GMT -5
Since Hulk vs. Andre?
Is it bigger than the Megapowers exploding?
Bigger than Hulk vs. Warrior in the biggest babyface vs. babyface match ever (at that time)?
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Post by Fade on Feb 16, 2024 12:32:04 GMT -5
No. Hogan and Andre were household names, larger-than-life wrestlers, it was like Godzilla fighting King Kong. It was the biggest match in history. It would be like if Taylor Swift fought Beyonce at the Grammys. Thats how huge Mania 3 was. As mainstream as WWE is right now. This isn't even Rock vs. Austin, Rock vs. Cena, or Hogan vs. The Rock. Nobody knows Roman has been champion for four years, nobody knows who Cody Rhodes is, maybe they saw his reality show or when he was a judge on that one game show. Outside our little bubble it might get some media traction that people want Cody over the Rock, but people have already moved on to hating on Madaam Webb. Now I want Taylor Swift vs. Beyoncé at Wrestlemania next year! Taylor Versus Kanye is still the money-match they’ve been building it for years.
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