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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Mar 14, 2024 19:54:23 GMT -5
God damn. Maybe it's true what they say? More Moné, more problems. I was so looking forward to this thread. This post is incredible
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Post by Dub H on Mar 14, 2024 19:56:00 GMT -5
Just you wait,when the overrun come , it will have been up by 500k viewers
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Post by Hypnosis on Mar 14, 2024 20:10:52 GMT -5
Just you wait,when the overrun come , it will have been up by 500k viewers
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2024 20:21:04 GMT -5
Well…WWE sure is hot, huh? And I only say that kinda jokingly. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that when WWE’s brand is the hottest it’s been in years, the ex big WWE star pops a milli but then folks just aren’t that interested to stick around. The product is cold. You can pull the nose up with strong booking and actual stories but it is going to take a while. Like, 3-4 months at least. Not to mention they get a lot of leeway. Aforementioned lack of ratings threads Booker T saying he had a confrontation with Punk at an NXT taping. If it was AEW I'd be looking at page 77 by now. Currently? Nada. WWE Ratings Threads aren't really discussed because there's nothing to discuss. The big reason AEW's are is because Warner hasn't bucked up and given them their big deal yet, and the more it's stretched out, the more people will decry the company is "dying" online. WWE's bulletproof, and their ratings don't really budge much these days, AEW's are weirdly random by the week, which allow people to form more narratives and mock when a wrestler is in the lower end of the ratings. Punk's WWE Thread was and is huge too, this is a false equivalency imo and it's not like Punk's WWE stuff just gets ignored.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Mar 14, 2024 20:27:22 GMT -5
Not to mention they get a lot of leeway. Aforementioned lack of ratings threads Booker T saying he had a confrontation with Punk at an NXT taping. If it was AEW I'd be looking at page 77 by now. Currently? Nada. WWE Ratings Threads aren't really discussed because there's nothing to discuss. The big reason AEW's are is because Warner hasn't bucked up and given them their big deal yet, and the more it's stretched out, the more people will decry the company is "dying" online. WWE's bulletproof, and their ratings don't really budge much these days, AEW's are weirdly random by the week, which allow people to form more narratives and mock when a wrestler is in the lower end of the ratings. Punk's WWE Thread was and is huge too, this is a false equivalency imo and it's not like Punk's WWE stuff just gets ignored. I hope it happens soon, because the day I don't have to hear about ratings anymore, it will be too soon.
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Post by King Devitt on Mar 14, 2024 20:57:27 GMT -5
How will AEW getting a new big deal at all nullify the ratings threads?
They will still get ratings.
They will still fluctuate.
Just because they got paid XXXXX amount of dollars doesn't mean people won't still be like "oh my god what a low rating!"
It will still exist.
They would need to move to streaming for it to go away, and even then people would find a reason because tribalism gon' tribalism.
Getting a sweet new deal won't be a cure-all, and the fact they haven't gotten one isn't the catalyst for these threads. See the above sentence.
That train of thought makes zero sense to me.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 14, 2024 20:58:44 GMT -5
Not to mention they get a lot of leeway. Aforementioned lack of ratings threads Booker T saying he had a confrontation with Punk at an NXT taping. If it was AEW I'd be looking at page 77 by now. Currently? Nada. AEW has a lot defenders and leeway, too. The Booker T thing probably doesn’t have a thread because there’s a 99% chance he’s joking given he did this same thing with Corey Graves last year. I think the last time we had a thread about something Booker said, it was because he actually made sense or acted logically and we were just so surprised by it.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 14, 2024 20:58:44 GMT -5
It looks like people came to see Mercedes and then left afterwards, which isn't ideal, do those same people come back next week to see what she does? And if so, you've got to create a hook so they'll stick around to see what she does later in the show otherwise they'll leave again.
I'm more interested in the Elite/Okada losing 160k+ viewers over 2 segments. That's concerning.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 14, 2024 21:02:12 GMT -5
How will AEW getting a new big deal at all nullify the ratings threads? They will still get ratings. They will still fluctuate. Just because they got paid XXXXX amount of dollars doesn't mean people won't still be like "oh my god what a low rating!" It will still exist. They would need to move to streaming for it to go away, and even then people would find a reason because tribalism gon' tribalism. Getting a sweet new deal won't be a cure-all, and the fact they haven't gotten one isn't the catalyst for these threads. See the above sentence. That train of thought makes zero sense to me. Because in some people's mind right now, the lack of a new deal or a new deal hinges on their ratings one way or another. It doesn't actually matter, they're top five in viewership every week and often number 1. You're right, even after a new deal people will still talk, but this time it'll be because of moving goalposts.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2024 21:02:44 GMT -5
How will AEW getting a new big deal at all nullify the ratings threads? They will still get ratings. They will still fluctuate. Just because they got paid XXXXX amount of dollars doesn't mean people won't still be like "oh my god what a low rating!" It will still exist. They would need to move to streaming for it to go away, and even then people would find a reason because tribalism gon' tribalism. Getting a sweet new deal won't be a cure-all, and the fact they haven't gotten one isn't the catalyst for these threads. See the above sentence. That train of thought makes zero sense to me. It will stop the narrative that they need to do X thing or Warner won't renew them and the company will die, that's what it will stop The WWE Ratings threads stopped inherently mattering week to week when their got their big deals and it became evident nothing was gonna happen to them, which is why people would also like that for the AEW threads, as discussions will be more tempered online No one is acting like they will poof away, they won't, no one's treating it like a cure-all, the lack of new big bulletproof deal, however, is a driving force behind doomposting online, and it will stop a lot of "What do they need to DO??" posting if they got that security and could operate more how they wished without every little thing being criticized as some giant red flag.
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Post by Dub H on Mar 14, 2024 21:05:19 GMT -5
My opinions remain the same tho in ratings tho, new hires ar enot solutions I'm not saying they arent draws but aew has its ratings increase when they constantly use they talent well. That's all you need.and also not use the kingdom and Jay lethal :∆
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 14, 2024 21:07:02 GMT -5
I mean I get the drop because Willow vs. Riho is just kind of demonstrably on paper the most filling filler to ever fill. Nothing against either of them but neither's exactly a hugely relevant player that's a major presence week to week. Best I could find this is only Willow's seventh Dynamite appearance in the past year and only the third time she's ever won a singles match on it. People have to be built up if the audience is going to care about them.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 14, 2024 21:07:23 GMT -5
It looks like people came to see Mercedes and then left afterwards, which isn't ideal, do those same people come back next week to see what she does? And if so, you've got to create a hook so they'll stick around to see what she does later in the show otherwise they'll leave again. I'm more interested in the Elite/Okada losing 160k+ viewers over 2 segments. That's concerning. I like all of the elite stuff a lot but sometimes I do wonder if a good chunk of the steady fanbase changes the channel when they show up and back on when they’re off.
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Post by asuka007 on Mar 14, 2024 21:07:23 GMT -5
One of the issues is that, while ratings are not nothing. There’s also clearly other factors that TK, AEW, WBD, etc are looking at as important was well.
And fans are not nearly as privy to said other factors. So we don’t know what they really think until if/when we get an announcement on a new TV deal.
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Post by King Devitt on Mar 14, 2024 21:08:11 GMT -5
How will AEW getting a new big deal at all nullify the ratings threads? They will still get ratings. They will still fluctuate. Just because they got paid XXXXX amount of dollars doesn't mean people won't still be like "oh my god what a low rating!" It will still exist. They would need to move to streaming for it to go away, and even then people would find a reason because tribalism gon' tribalism. Getting a sweet new deal won't be a cure-all, and the fact they haven't gotten one isn't the catalyst for these threads. See the above sentence. That train of thought makes zero sense to me. Because in some people's mind right now, the lack of a new deal or a new deal hinges on their ratings one way or another. It doesn't actually matter, they're top five in viewership every week and often number 1. You're right, even after a new deal people will still talk, but this time it'll be because of moving goalposts. True. I just don't get the "it will fix everything magic dust" it's being presented as. Let's just be happy there's an alternative. Even if you don't watch all the time anymore like myself, and have issues with the product, I still appreciate there's a legit national company out there. Sigh.... So how do y'all feel about gas station chicken?
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Post by jm on Mar 14, 2024 21:18:30 GMT -5
People have been praising the new Bucks EVP characters and saying how much they've enjoyed them. People have also been saying how much they enjoy Okada being with The Bucks. Now however after one rating, they are being declared as akin to ratings poison. I should've guessed.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 14, 2024 21:24:59 GMT -5
People have been praising the new Bucks EVP characters and saying how much they've enjoyed them. People have also been saying how much they enjoy Okada being with The Bucks. Now however after one rating, they are being declared as akin to ratings poison. I should've guessed. It’s a great gimmick and all of us seem to love it but that doesn’t mean that all viewers as a whole enjoy watching them, nor does it mean us who already watch it want it to end. It’s the same shit as with the main event, you’re not going to find three people on this board who hate Willow or Riho. Pretty much everyone loves them and the match was good but the storyline is cold and most viewers had no idea Mone would be back out there. They probably should have had her at ringside or commentary if they cared about how the quarter did in the ratings, which they might not. This hyperbole is what drives people away from watching every week.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Mar 14, 2024 21:35:44 GMT -5
People have been praising the new Bucks EVP characters and saying how much they've enjoyed them. People have also been saying how much they enjoy Okada being with The Bucks. Now however after one rating, they are being declared as akin to ratings poison. I should've guessed. It’s a great gimmick and all of us seem to love it but that doesn’t mean that all viewers as a whole enjoy watching them, nor does it mean us who already watch it want it to end. It’s the same shit as with the main event, you’re not going to find three people on this board who hate Willow or Riho. Pretty much everyone loves them and the match was good but the storyline is cold and most viewers had no idea Mone would be back out there. They probably should have had her at ringside or commentary if they cared about how the quarter did in the ratings, which they might not. This hyperbole is what drives people away from watching every week. It doesn't help they explained why Kris didn't come out and help as an online only thing
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2024 21:41:11 GMT -5
It’s a great gimmick and all of us seem to love it but that doesn’t mean that all viewers as a whole enjoy watching them, nor does it mean us who already watch it want it to end. It’s the same shit as with the main event, you’re not going to find three people on this board who hate Willow or Riho. Pretty much everyone loves them and the match was good but the storyline is cold and most viewers had no idea Mone would be back out there. They probably should have had her at ringside or commentary if they cared about how the quarter did in the ratings, which they might not. This hyperbole is what drives people away from watching every week. It doesn't help they explained why Kris didn't come out and help as an online only thing They could easily play that clip on Rampage, unfortunately also according to some people that show doesn't matter so whatever... I also don't think it was a huge thing or indicative of the ratings of Kris' thing not being explained straight away, and again, they have two more shows they can show this footage on.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2024 21:43:15 GMT -5
People have been praising the new Bucks EVP characters and saying how much they've enjoyed them. People have also been saying how much they enjoy Okada being with The Bucks. Now however after one rating, they are being declared as akin to ratings poison. I should've guessed. It’s a great gimmick and all of us seem to love it but that doesn’t mean that all viewers as a whole enjoy watching them, nor does it mean us who already watch it want it to end. I don't really think the EVP Gimmick or Okada are an issue, it's just overall AEW has a hard time keeping viewers on the back half of shows It's a trend not indicative of who is on screen really as much as it's a trend overall First quarters get the best ratings, second hour sees a small spike at the top of the hour and then goes down again, it's been this way for a few months, and people wanna say it's because it's because of a wrestler or a storyline... it feels like it doesn't really matter who is put where, it gets relatively the same pattern from the Nielson watchers.
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