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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 14, 2024 21:45:45 GMT -5
It’s a great gimmick and all of us seem to love it but that doesn’t mean that all viewers as a whole enjoy watching them, nor does it mean us who already watch it want it to end. It’s the same shit as with the main event, you’re not going to find three people on this board who hate Willow or Riho. Pretty much everyone loves them and the match was good but the storyline is cold and most viewers had no idea Mone would be back out there. They probably should have had her at ringside or commentary if they cared about how the quarter did in the ratings, which they might not. This hyperbole is what drives people away from watching every week. It doesn't help they explained why Kris didn't come out and help as an online only thing WWE has been terrible at that shit with the women’s division too except in the last two weeks. You gotta have these things explained and having Mone out there would also explain why she is first to assist Willow. Everything I’m saying is the same complaints I’ve had about the other guys, there has to be room for criticism. We can all dig the show and generally, I think we do. Not much needs to change for me, I like what’s going on but it isn’t perfect and a lot of viewers aren’t vibing with it.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Mar 14, 2024 22:10:48 GMT -5
Also god damn: This thread has hit 5 pages in only a few hours whereas the last Dynamite rating thread took more than 12 hours to get to the same number of pages.
Whoa, we're half-way there Whoa, AEW livin' on a prayer Ratings threads on FAN? We'll hate it, I swear
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2024 22:39:31 GMT -5
It doesn't help they explained why Kris didn't come out and help as an online only thing WWE has been terrible at that shit with the women’s division too except in the last two weeks. You gotta have these things explained and having Mone out there would also explain why she is first to assist Willow. Everything I’m saying is the same complaints I’ve had about the other guys, there has to be room for criticism. We can all dig the show and generally, I think we do. Not much needs to change for me, I like what’s going on but it isn’t perfect and a lot of viewers aren’t vibing with it. It's hard to really blame the show as a whole though as to why the numbers are lower, and also say "Viewers aren't vibing" It's Nielson boxes. They are in 42,000 homes, only, out of MILLIONS of people. I don't have a Nielson box, I watch the show, I love the show, I don't influence these numbers one way or the other The ones who do, might not be vibing or simply might not be watching or even wrestling fans/aware AEW is a thing over other programming on at the EXACT same time It infuriates me that this is the metric we have to gage viewership, it's archaic, outdated, and then we have people who will simply go "Well the viewers don't like it.", when in reality, Nielson Boxes don't even generate 1 percent of actual American viewership only being in 42,000 homes and I think equating to like 100K TV's total in the US at any given time. A lot of people are likely watching and enjoying Dynamite, but these numbers give off the impression that the show is a problem when in reality, it's so much other shit that could also be involved such as a lot of viewers simply not being counted over ones with an influential magic box. This also isn't me saying people might not find the product appealing right now, it could be a reason, but unfortunately, ratings are so random and only being gaged by what a fraction of the actual US viewership really is and then being estimated as such, it is literally impossible to say. It's why ratings threads are long, exhausting, and full of estimations, theories, and assumptions about why the show, a wrestler, or angle is doing something wrong, and things need to be fixed. In my honest opinion, the way ratings are PRESENTED needs to be fixed, and it's only gotten exponentially worse since Showbuzz shut down.
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Post by markymark on Mar 14, 2024 22:45:14 GMT -5
People have been praising the new Bucks EVP characters and saying how much they've enjoyed them. People have also been saying how much they enjoy Okada being with The Bucks. Now however after one rating, they are being declared as akin to ratings poison. I should've guessed. It’s a great gimmick and all of us seem to love it but that doesn’t mean that all viewers as a whole enjoy watching them, nor does it mean us who already watch it want it to end. It’s the same shit as with the main event, you’re not going to find three people on this board who hate Willow or Riho. Pretty much everyone loves them and the match was good but the storyline is cold and most viewers had no idea Mone would be back out there. They probably should have had her at ringside or commentary if they cared about how the quarter did in the ratings, which they might not. This hyperbole is what drives people away from watching every week.
BBSG got crapped on by social media and yet they gained viewers last night.
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Post by gnr123 on Mar 14, 2024 22:46:40 GMT -5
If AEW wants ratings and attendance to go up, the shows need to be better. It’s as simple as that. The only thing that moves the needle in a positive direction on viewership at this point is substantial change to the presentation/writing/creative etc. You sign Ospreay, Okada, and Mercedes and your viewership sits in the same groove it has been for a while? It's not a talent problem it's a presentation/writing/creative problem.
I really don't see how anyone can spin this into a positive. Mercedes Mone/Sasha Banks was big name they've been waiting to get since she walked out of WWE nearly 2 years ago. The show was basically built around her without saying her name, and people tuned in to see her and NOPED OUT once she left. Not one "GAMECHANGER" they signed from WWE turned out to be their Hall and Nash and bring fierce competition to WWE. Because it's not the talent who are the problem, it's the creative and the presentation of the show. When AEW first started, I remember people saying it reminded them of WCW, the way the show was produced and presented. Other than Jericho, you really didn't have any former WWE talent. And there was the report that "Cody Rhodes doesn't want to flood AEW with former WWE talent." It really seemed like AEW was going to be different from TNA, not just signing people just because of the company they previously worked for. Oh boy was I wrong. Now with so many former WWE talent, they still can't get the ratings they got 3 years ago, that's not a positive. Who's next? Shelton Benjamin? Mustafa Ali?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2024 22:56:22 GMT -5
If AEW wants ratings and attendance to go up, the shows need to be better. It’s as simple as that. The only thing that moves the needle in a positive direction on viewership at this point is substantial change to the presentation/writing/creative etc. You sign Ospreay, Okada, and Mercedes and your viewership sits in the same groove it has been for a while? It's not a talent problem it's a presentation/writing/creative problem. I really don't see how anyone can spin this into a positive. Mercedes Mone/Sasha Banks was big name they've been waiting to get since she walked out of WWE nearly 2 years ago. The show was basically built around her without saying her name, and people tuned in to see her and NOPED OUT once she left. Not one "GAMECHANGER" they signed from WWE turned out to be their Hall and Nash and bring fierce competition to WWE. Because it's not the talent who are the problem, it's the creative and the presentation of the show. When AEW first started, I remember people saying it reminded them of WCW, the way the show was produced and presented. Other than Jericho, you really didn't have any former WWE talent. And there was the report that "Cody Rhodes doesn't want to flood AEW with former WWE talent." It really seemed like AEW was going to be different from TNA, not just signing people just because of the company they previously worked for. Oh boy was I wrong. Now with so many former WWE talent, they still can't get the ratings they got 3 years ago, that's not a positive. Who's next? Shelton Benjamin? Mustafa Ali? The shows have been better, the presentation literally just got upgraded and changed two weeks ago, and they are not TNA and "Signing all these former WWE talents", Okada and Ospreay never even were in WWE. Of course they will however, sign WWE talents, as WWE will sign AEW talents, but that doesn't fit your narrative argument you're trying to create here with false equivalencies to their supposed "failure" as you will also ignore all the talents who were never in WWE that they've been able to organically create. Wrestling is a fluid business and AEW started with almost no WWE talents because almost none existed on the market, contracts end, for both parties, and talents leave, and now guys who started in AEW and were in WWE four years ago, some have switched, and some have happily gone elsewhere that aren't WWE or AEW. You wanna know why people are downright exhausted with ratings threads in the AEW Board lately? These posts are why. You aren't actually giving any constructive criticism about the product, you're guising it behind a victory lap so you can essentially boast about why a company you likely never wanted to succeed in the first place isn't delivering the ratings 42,000 boxes around the US dictate they should be. This is only conflated by users who very obviously and blatantly come into the AEW Board to only dunk on the product and or the ratings, and curiously, never comment on anything else positive, and then leave again... really comes across like your comments are genuine and you really want what's best for the product and wrestling as a whole when that's your blatant post pattern, it's not frustrating at all for frequent attenders or fans of AEW or this board at all...
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Post by gnr123 on Mar 14, 2024 23:06:45 GMT -5
If AEW wants ratings and attendance to go up, the shows need to be better. It’s as simple as that. The only thing that moves the needle in a positive direction on viewership at this point is substantial change to the presentation/writing/creative etc. You sign Ospreay, Okada, and Mercedes and your viewership sits in the same groove it has been for a while? It's not a talent problem it's a presentation/writing/creative problem. I really don't see how anyone can spin this into a positive. Mercedes Mone/Sasha Banks was big name they've been waiting to get since she walked out of WWE nearly 2 years ago. The show was basically built around her without saying her name, and people tuned in to see her and NOPED OUT once she left. Not one "GAMECHANGER" they signed from WWE turned out to be their Hall and Nash and bring fierce competition to WWE. Because it's not the talent who are the problem, it's the creative and the presentation of the show. When AEW first started, I remember people saying it reminded them of WCW, the way the show was produced and presented. Other than Jericho, you really didn't have any former WWE talent. And there was the report that "Cody Rhodes doesn't want to flood AEW with former WWE talent." It really seemed like AEW was going to be different from TNA, not just signing people just because of the company they previously worked for. Oh boy was I wrong. Now with so many former WWE talent, they still can't get the ratings they got 3 years ago, that's not a positive. Who's next? Shelton Benjamin? Mustafa Ali? The shows have been better, the presentation literally just got upgraded and changed two weeks ago, and they are not TNA and "Signing all these former WWE talents", Okada and Ospreay never even were in WWE. Of course they will however, sign WWE talents, as WWE will sign AEW talents, but that doesn't fit your narrative argument you're trying to create here with false equivalencies to their supposed "failure" as you will also ignore all the talents who were never in WWE that they've been able to organically create. Wrestling is a fluid business and AEW started with almost no WWE talents because almost none existed on the market, contracts end, for both parties, and talents leave, and now guys who started in AEW and were in WWE four years ago, some have switched, and some have happily gone elsewhere that aren't WWE or AEW. You wanna know why people are downright exhausted with ratings threads in the AEW Board lately? These posts are why. You aren't actually giving any constructive criticism about the product, you're guising it behind a victory lap so you can essentially boast about why a company you likely never wanted to succeed in the first place isn't delivering the ratings 42,000 boxes around the US dictate they should be. This is only conflated by users who very obviously and blatantly come into the AEW Board to only dunk on the product and or the ratings, and curiously, never comment on anything else positive, and then leave again... really comes across like your comments are genuine and you really want what's best for the product and wrestling as a whole when that's your blatant post pattern, it's not frustrating at all for frequent attenders or fans of AEW or this board at all... I mean, I am giving constructive criticism? Saying how AEW have to change their creative and writing, that's constructive criticism, right? If the show was better, people would be tuning in in droves like they were before, attendance and ratings wouldn't be in a downward spiral. It easy to just say "the show is better," but it's not bringing in the same viewers there were years ago. Why is that? And no, it has NOTHING to do with Neilsen boxes because WWE have been averaging similar ratings for the last few years now.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 14, 2024 23:12:44 GMT -5
The shows have been better, the presentation literally just got upgraded and changed two weeks ago, and they are not TNA and "Signing all these former WWE talents", Okada and Ospreay never even were in WWE. Of course they will however, sign WWE talents, as WWE will sign AEW talents, but that doesn't fit your narrative argument you're trying to create here with false equivalencies to their supposed "failure" as you will also ignore all the talents who were never in WWE that they've been able to organically create. Wrestling is a fluid business and AEW started with almost no WWE talents because almost none existed on the market, contracts end, for both parties, and talents leave, and now guys who started in AEW and were in WWE four years ago, some have switched, and some have happily gone elsewhere that aren't WWE or AEW. You wanna know why people are downright exhausted with ratings threads in the AEW Board lately? These posts are why. You aren't actually giving any constructive criticism about the product, you're guising it behind a victory lap so you can essentially boast about why a company you likely never wanted to succeed in the first place isn't delivering the ratings 42,000 boxes around the US dictate they should be. This is only conflated by users who very obviously and blatantly come into the AEW Board to only dunk on the product and or the ratings, and curiously, never comment on anything else positive, and then leave again... really comes across like your comments are genuine and you really want what's best for the product and wrestling as a whole when that's your blatant post pattern, it's not frustrating at all for frequent attenders or fans of AEW or this board at all... I mean, I am giving constructive criticism? Saying how AEW have to change their creative and writing, that's constructive criticism, right? If the show was better, people would be tuning in in droves like they were before, attendance and ratings wouldn't be in a downward spiral. It easy to just say "the show is better," but it's not bringing in the same viewers there were years ago. Why is that? And no, it has NOTHING to do with Neilsen boxes because WWE have been averaging similar ratings for the last few years now. It does have to do with Nielson Boxes, though, that's how they get these ratings, and WWE is a more known name on a completely different night with completely different nightly competition. A lot of things factor in, and a lot of things you're just ignoring for your arguments sake And you going "They're the new TNA" is just flat out incorrect, especially when Ospreay and Okada are not and never were WWE talents and aren't former WWE guys. AEW does not hiring spree all former WWE Talents or even showcase them above other talents. Ospreay vs Fletcher and Willow vs Riho were the last two main events, four people who never even TOUCHED WWE. So you're trying to reach for arguments and proclaim AEW is something it isn't with shit that isn't there It's perfectly fine to ask what AEW is doing wrong or how they can bring numbers up, but it's another to decree this is what the problem is when it's not, and especially to say the Nielson Boxes don't matter when that is literally the ONLY WAY this data even exists, and the data is f***ing shit and anyone who pays attention to ratings Data anymore really tells you that it is lol Also Attendance and Ratings aren't in a "Downward Spiral" either, again, the company is in no danger of failing and nothing's dying, this just comes off as doomposting to the highest degree man, stuff being a bit lower isn't some death clock ticking downward, the show is good and sometimes trends take awhile to reverse with these patterns, but even more so, the patterns are random as f*** because of how they're tracked, and it's just as easily likely they go up next week with no explanation and no one comments on it because then you can't talk about the company in a "Downward Spiral" because suddenly everything's normal, until the next time it's not. And that's beyond frustrating, because that's very true about these threads lol
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 14, 2024 23:16:29 GMT -5
I don't get the argument for wondering how the show would have done if they advertised Mone directly when she drew over a million viewers, like maybe 1.2 Million? It normally doesn't boon over the million mark, she did what was asked of her The show's trend seems to be no matter what happens, sometimes barring the overrun, the main event does lesser viewers. I would wonder how much something like Family Guy is hurting the last two quarters because Dynamite's last two mains have done lower than their usual and those two weeks, Family Guy's been directly competing against it and it's a draw of a show despite itself. I don't even know if card re-arrangement would change this much, this is just a pattern AEW seems like it needs to push through. But then again, it's important to not take a ton of stock into Nielson numbers, as was said in the last way too big ratings thread lol Family Guy typically gets much lower ratings than the shows that air from 8-930 on the same channel.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 14, 2024 23:20:56 GMT -5
I don't get the argument for wondering how the show would have done if they advertised Mone directly when she drew over a million viewers, like maybe 1.2 Million? It normally doesn't boon over the million mark, she did what was asked of her The show's trend seems to be no matter what happens, sometimes barring the overrun, the main event does lesser viewers. I would wonder how much something like Family Guy is hurting the last two quarters because Dynamite's last two mains have done lower than their usual and those two weeks, Family Guy's been directly competing against it and it's a draw of a show despite itself. I don't even know if card re-arrangement would change this much, this is just a pattern AEW seems like it needs to push through. But then again, it's important to not take a ton of stock into Nielson numbers, as was said in the last way too big ratings thread lol Family Guy typically gets much lower ratings than the shows that air from 8-930 on the same channel. But it's probably more likely that the Venn Diagram between Family Guy and Wrestling fans is closer together than Masked Singer and Wrestling fans. It's also two weeks in a row where something similar has happened with huge drop-offs in those quarter hours.
Granted, we're also basing this off of two main event segments that weren't exactly your standard main event draws. Good matches, but not something to make you want to tune in. If the next main event is a hyped up match and it's the same pattern, then it becomes a real discussion point.
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Post by gnr123 on Mar 14, 2024 23:24:34 GMT -5
I mean, I am giving constructive criticism? Saying how AEW have to change their creative and writing, that's constructive criticism, right? If the show was better, people would be tuning in in droves like they were before, attendance and ratings wouldn't be in a downward spiral. It easy to just say "the show is better," but it's not bringing in the same viewers there were years ago. Why is that? And no, it has NOTHING to do with Neilsen boxes because WWE have been averaging similar ratings for the last few years now. It does have to do with Nielson Boxes, though, that's how they get these ratings, and WWE is a more known name on a completely different night with completely different nightly competition. A lot of things factor in, and a lot of things you're just ignoring for your arguments sake And you going "They're the new TNA" is just flat out incorrect, especially when Ospreay and Okada are not and never were WWE talents and aren't former WWE guys. AEW does not hiring spree all former WWE Talents or even showcase them above other talents. Ospreay vs Fletcher and Willow vs Riho were the last two main events, four people who never even TOUCHED WWE. So you're trying to reach for arguments and proclaim AEW is something it isn't with shit that isn't there It's perfectly fine to ask what AEW is doing wrong or how they can bring numbers up, but it's another to decree this is what the problem is when it's not, and especially to say the Nielson Boxes don't matter when that is literally the ONLY WAY this data even exists, and the data is f***ing shit and anyone who pays attention to ratings Data anymore really tells you that it is lol Also Attendance and Ratings aren't in a "Downward Spiral" either, again, the company is in no danger of failing and nothing's dying, this just comes off as doomposting to the highest degree man, stuff being a bit lower isn't some death clock ticking downward, the show is good and sometimes trends take awhile to reverse with these patterns, but even more so, the patterns are random as f*** because of how they're tracked, and it's just as easily likely they go up next week with no explanation and no one comments on it because then you can't talk about the company in a "Downward Spiral" because suddenly everything's normal, until the next time it's not. And that's beyond frustrating, because that's very true about these threads lol So what competition was on last night to have AEW get a nearly identical rating it did last week? AEW doesn't showcase WWE talent above other talents? Wasn't this whole show promoted because Sasha Banks was going to be there? That's the problem too, "the show is good," to who? Where are the 200,000 viewers that were around before, where did they go? If the show is so good, why didn't they stay? Maybe it's true what I read on Reddit, people didn't want an alternative, they just wanted WWE to be good.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 14, 2024 23:28:06 GMT -5
WWE has been terrible at that shit with the women’s division too except in the last two weeks. You gotta have these things explained and having Mone out there would also explain why she is first to assist Willow. Everything I’m saying is the same complaints I’ve had about the other guys, there has to be room for criticism. We can all dig the show and generally, I think we do. Not much needs to change for me, I like what’s going on but it isn’t perfect and a lot of viewers aren’t vibing with it. It's hard to really blame the show as a whole though as to why the numbers are lower, and also say "Viewers aren't vibing" It's Nielson boxes. They are in 42,000 homes, only, out of MILLIONS of people. I don't have a Nielson box, I watch the show, I love the show, I don't influence these numbers one way or the other The ones who do, might not be vibing or simply might not be watching or even wrestling fans/aware AEW is a thing over other programming on at the EXACT same time It infuriates me that this is the metric we have to gage viewership, it's archaic, outdated, and then we have people who will simply go "Well the viewers don't like it.", when in reality, Nielson Boxes don't even generate 1 percent of actual American viewership only being in 42,000 homes and I think equating to like 100K TV's total in the US at any given time. A lot of people are likely watching and enjoying Dynamite, but these numbers give off the impression that the show is a problem when in reality, it's so much other shit that could also be involved such as a lot of viewers simply not being counted over ones with an influential magic box. This also isn't me saying people might not find the product appealing right now, it could be a reason, but unfortunately, ratings are so random and only being gaged by what a fraction of the actual US viewership really is and then being estimated as such, it is literally impossible to say. It's why ratings threads are long, exhausting, and full of estimations, theories, and assumptions about why the show, a wrestler, or angle is doing something wrong, and things need to be fixed. In my honest opinion, the way ratings are PRESENTED needs to be fixed, and it's only gotten exponentially worse since Showbuzz shut down. You’re severely downplaying the statistical significance of the sample they’re using.
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Post by jb80 on Mar 14, 2024 23:42:52 GMT -5
It's not an aew problem, it's a Nielsen problem. Brother, jack, dude.
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Post by r. on Mar 14, 2024 23:43:48 GMT -5
Not to mention they get a lot of leeway. Aforementioned lack of ratings threads Booker T saying he had a confrontation with Punk at an NXT taping. If it was AEW I'd be looking at page 77 by now. Currently? Nada. AEW has a lot defenders and leeway, too. The Booker T thing probably doesn’t have a thread because there’s a 99% chance he’s joking given he did this same thing with Corey Graves last year. AEW has a lot of leeway...alrighty.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 14, 2024 23:52:30 GMT -5
AEW is definitely cold right now and seems to have kind of stalled in its growth, but it's also not like it's on the verge of dying or anything. The company at least has a generally stable niche of loyal fans and does well in the ratings every week even if it isn't killing it. They don't need to be beating Raw to be healthy and at least for the moment they've still got enough viewers to put them near the top of the ratings each Wednesday and to make still selling PPVs for $50 a pop in 2024 a viable business model.
And it bares noting that this really isn't just an AEW problem. SmackDown's ratings have stayed in the same groove they have been even with Rock around, NXT's pretty much lost all of the extra viewers that came from having Becky and Judgment Day around, and Raw's been generally gradually dropping for weeks.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 15, 2024 0:00:29 GMT -5
It's not an aew problem, it's a Nielsen problem. Brother, jack, dude. You don't get to speak until you elaborate on the Kevin Kelly/EC3 Frontal Nudity controversy! But genuinely I don't get why people brush off the Nielson ratings and just want to blame AEW outright, this system sucks, 42,000 boxes throughout the US does not equate to millions of people watching things at any given time. A lot of shows get screwed over by these metrics because it simply isn't counting data in an accurate and efficient way and in 2024 it's batshit that we don't have a more accurate way to do it, this is just... it. But it's the closest we have so people treat it like the life or death of a show, but especially AEW, because wrestling fans are rabid and want to see other companies fail and die instead of being healthy and other people have steady jobs entertaining the masses, it's a very healthy way some people on socials live man, let me tell ya.
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Post by uewfigfed on Mar 15, 2024 0:21:03 GMT -5
*Checks number*
Back to regular rates, which is good. Toronto has cope/cage 3 headlining, so hopefully we get a nice card to flesh it out and get a good 833 next week
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Post by schizo on Mar 15, 2024 0:34:09 GMT -5
Really? Why are people here getting butthurt about the low ratings or taking to heart when people give criticism about the show or something. Dynamite was a awesome show, after the show was over, I went on to do other things, not really caring what other people thought of it or what the ratings will be tomorrow. I just don’t care. I enjoye the show. Why is there a big argument about “Neilson boxe matters! Or don’t matter” or whatever. It just looks really silly. When do people ever have a strong argument about “neilson boxes” in normal conversation? lol. If you enjoy the show then you enjoyed the show, just move on?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Mar 15, 2024 0:48:14 GMT -5
It's not an aew problem, it's a Nielsen problem. Brother, jack, dude. You gave me trust issues get in the Kevin Kelly thread at once
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 15, 2024 1:01:27 GMT -5
Really? Why are people here getting butthurt about the low ratings or taking to heart when people give criticism about the show or something. Dynamite was a awesome show, after the show was over, I went on to do other things, not really caring what other people thought of it or what the ratings will be tomorrow. I just don’t care. I enjoye the show. Why is there a big argument about “Neilson boxe matters! Or don’t matter” or whatever. It just looks really silly. When do people ever have a strong argument about “neilson boxes” in normal conversation? lol. If you enjoy the show then you enjoyed the show, just move on? People have talked about Nielson boxes being an issue for a very long time, it's just something that always falls into the ratings discourse topics because of how people treat them as gospel, especially when not all people in the thread are giving simple criticisms but saying false equivalency's like "AEW is now TNA". And most people will simply move on and enjoy the product, these threads nor the ratings change I or most peoples thoughts on what AEW is doing or how it's doing it, but it is noticeable when we get comments by people who never ever come into these threads to enjoy AEW, comment on it in any positive way, and then seemingly wait for the ratings threads to throw out some narratives and disguise them as "criticism" about the company, leave, and wait for that cycle again. And that is, more often than not, how these threads can spiral after a few pages when a number doesn't look pretty enough, it's why I can't wait for a new big Warner deal and hope it happens soon, because it'll be nice to see ratings and simply go "Well AEW's good for 5-10 years no matter what" much like how WWE's ratings threads went when they got their deals.
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