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Post by Facetious on Mar 18, 2024 1:06:29 GMT -5
I would honestly move to Mondays after Raw goes to Netflix. Filling a cable tv void could actually do wonders. I thought this too but I feel like a lot of people would still watch Netflix and Monday Night Football will be a bitch and a half during football season I guess you have to ask yourself would you get more than 450K average moving to Monday knowing there might still be stiff competition. Tony will never let wrestling and football mix. Unfortunately, Collision is just between a rock and a hard place.
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Post by jean0987654321 on Mar 18, 2024 3:08:34 GMT -5
I think it should be canceled outright.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 18, 2024 3:12:40 GMT -5
I thought this too but I feel like a lot of people would still watch Netflix and Monday Night Football will be a bitch and a half during football season I guess you have to ask yourself would you get more than 450K average moving to Monday knowing there might still be stiff competition. Tony will never let wrestling and football mix. Unfortunately, Collision is just between a rock and a hard place. True, Dwayne is on Friday Nights now
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Post by neilc on Mar 18, 2024 10:02:00 GMT -5
And this kind of thing is why Ringside News is on the banned sources list. Is there a master list of banned sources so I know for the future?
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Post by Muskrat on Mar 18, 2024 10:06:05 GMT -5
I said once it was announced Raw was moving to Netflix they should jump to Mondays. Wrestling on Mondays has been a habit for people going 3 decades, take advantage of that. Not everyone has or will jump to streaming. And I will argue to the death that that is a terrible idea. Don’t poke the bear, don’t give WWE an excuse to come out guns a blazing. You move to Mondays opposite Raw you’re openly declaring war, gloves are off and you can’t fault WWE for any greasy ass tactics the use to fight back. Suddenly Rock is on every Monday, they go full super show every week, and they do everything in their power to tank your show. TKO is willing to play nice with AEW, let them do their own thing but if they counter program against Raw I think things get ugly. EDIT: That being said, Collision absolutely should move to Thursdays if WBD ever gives them that option
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Post by eJm on Mar 18, 2024 10:24:46 GMT -5
Tuesdays and Thursdays, if negotiations go as planned, will be NBA nights so there’s zero chance that’ll happen and nor should WBD. The NBA is a demo cash cow, Inside the NBA is a TV institution and they’re paying Barkley and co enough that they need to use them as much as possible to justify it. As much as WBD love AEW, they don’t love them that much.
Mondays are interesting, especially when Raw moves to Netflix. The logic of “Don’t poke the bear” does make sense but on the other hand, it’s not like there’s a reason to worry about the competition. They’re on the biggest streamer, people can watch them whenever and the “head to head” factor goes out the window when it’s not like people will be switching between the two. It’s Disney doing all it can to make the next big Marvel movie compete against the premiere of a DC movie on TNT, it’s almost a non-factor.
Should they do it? It’s a coin flip but I almost feel it should be talked about in the negotiations. See what sort of money they’re willing to give and how much of a marketing push to make it happen. I don’t expect it but a amuse it.
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Post by schizo on Mar 18, 2024 10:58:49 GMT -5
Moving Collision to Monday nights would be a terrible idea because all the attention and viewing will be mostly on Raw regardless if it’s on Netflix now, basically Collision I feel, will be a laughing stock if its on the same night as Raw.
I always perfered when any mainline wrestling show had their own night to air because it’d be easier to watch and all discussion and attention is only for that show. I don’t mind Collision being on Saturdays because every other day is already occupied and, with the exceptions of the occasional PPVs, Collision is the only show on Saturdays so it’s easy watch imo
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 18, 2024 11:04:23 GMT -5
I thought this too but I feel like a lot of people would still watch Netflix and Monday Night Football will be a bitch and a half during football season I guess you have to ask yourself would you get more than 450K average moving to Monday knowing there might still be stiff competition. Tony will never let wrestling and football mix. Unfortunately, Collision is just between a rock and a hard place. I think he does not hold that rule as sacrosanct given the NFL is moving to more and more nights of the week including Saturday. TKO has NFL owners on their board and obviously they don't mind competing with NFL games. I think it should be fine.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 18, 2024 11:18:44 GMT -5
I said once it was announced Raw was moving to Netflix they should jump to Mondays. Wrestling on Mondays has been a habit for people going 3 decades, take advantage of that. Not everyone has or will jump to streaming. And I will argue to the death that that is a terrible idea. Don’t poke the bear, don’t give WWE an excuse to come out guns a blazing. You move to Mondays opposite Raw you’re openly declaring war, gloves are off and you can’t fault WWE for any greasy ass tactics the use to fight back. Suddenly Rock is on every Monday, they go full super show every week, and they do everything in their power to tank your show. TKO is willing to play nice with AEW, let them do their own thing but if they counter program against Raw I think things get ugly. EDIT: That being said, Collision absolutely should move to Thursdays if WBD ever gives them that option That's a damned good point. I wasn't thinking so much of WWE's response, more the potential audience they could grab. I'm not sure it isn't at least worth running a special or two to see if there is an audience because even if it is half of what WWE was getting, that is around double what Collision currently gets, especially if WWE counter programs.
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Post by Muskrat on Mar 18, 2024 11:23:51 GMT -5
And I will argue to the death that that is a terrible idea. Don’t poke the bear, don’t give WWE an excuse to come out guns a blazing. You move to Mondays opposite Raw you’re openly declaring war, gloves are off and you can’t fault WWE for any greasy ass tactics the use to fight back. Suddenly Rock is on every Monday, they go full super show every week, and they do everything in their power to tank your show. TKO is willing to play nice with AEW, let them do their own thing but if they counter program against Raw I think things get ugly. EDIT: That being said, Collision absolutely should move to Thursdays if WBD ever gives them that option That's a damned good point. I wasn't thinking so much of WWE's response, more the potential audience they could grab. I'm not sure it isn't at least worth running a special or two to see if there is an audience because even if it is half of what WWE was getting, that is around double what Collision currently gets, especially if WWE counter programs. WWE brought out Bret and had him hug HBK when TNA moved to Mondays. And AEW is way stronger competition than TNA ever was. WWE might find a way to resurrect the Ultimate Warrior and make him a cyborg or something if AEW moved to Mondays
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Post by eJm on Mar 18, 2024 11:25:52 GMT -5
Moving Collision to Monday nights would be a terrible idea because all the attention and viewing will be mostly on Raw regardless if it’s on Netflix now, basically Collision I feel, will be a laughing stock if its on the same night as Raw. One of the things I sort of wanted to know from people from the US is how internet connectivity is like outside the major cities. One of the things that makes it difficult for streaming services to grow audiences is the fact that same audience can’t access things online the same way people from, say, New York, LA etc can. It’s why WWE still sign PPV deals with companies, which may not be as substantial as they once were but they’re an audience that very much still exists. This isn’t me saying it won’t be a factor but the more time has passed since the deal was signed, I’m trying to think whether it’d affect a show on cable that much because there isn’t that same pressure to wait 30 days if you miss an episode for it to hit on Peacock or hope your DVR can pick it up of anything changes schedule wise. EDIT: People bring up the TNA competition but, like, they were both accessible and you couldn’t watch another show the next day unless you had a DVR player, which didn’t count to ratings. When you take that away, is it worthwhile competing against something that your distributor isn’t that concerned about with how stuff is released on there as is? On the other side, all of us talking about ideal nights is all well and good but if TNT and WBD like it on Saturdays in general and does what they expect, there’s not much that can be done to change that.
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Post by dbsot on Mar 18, 2024 12:10:34 GMT -5
Tuesdays and Thursdays, if negotiations go as planned, will be NBA nights so there’s zero chance that’ll happen and nor should WBD. The NBA is a demo cash cow, Inside the NBA is a TV institution and they’re paying Barkley and co enough that they need to use them as much as possible to justify it. As much as WBD love AEW, they don’t love them that much. Mondays are interesting, especially when Raw moves to Netflix. The logic of “Don’t poke the bear” does make sense but on the other hand, it’s not like there’s a reason to worry about the competition. They’re on the biggest streamer, people can watch them whenever and the “head to head” factor goes out the window when it’s not like people will be switching between the two. It’s Disney doing all it can to make the next big Marvel movie compete against the premiere of a DC movie on TNT, it’s almost a non-factor. Should they do it? It’s a coin flip but I almost feel it should be talked about in the negotiations. See what sort of money they’re willing to give and how much of a marketing push to make it happen. I don’t expect it but a amuse it. I could be wrong, but I believe most of the NBA games are on TNT and not TBS, so they could make TBS work for Collision on Thursdays. However, WBD might not want the NBA competing directly with AEW on the same night.
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Post by Muskrat on Mar 18, 2024 12:13:31 GMT -5
Moving Collision to Monday nights would be a terrible idea because all the attention and viewing will be mostly on Raw regardless if it’s on Netflix now, basically Collision I feel, will be a laughing stock if its on the same night as Raw. One of the things I sort of wanted to know from people from the US is how internet connectivity is like outside the major cities. One of the things that makes it difficult for streaming services to grow audiences is the fact that same audience can’t access things online the same way people from, say, New York, LA etc can. It’s why WWE still sign PPV deals with companies, which may not be as substantial as they once were but they’re an audience that very much still exists. This isn’t me saying it won’t be a factor but the more time has passed since the deal was signed, I’m trying to think whether it’d affect a show on cable that much because there isn’t that same pressure to wait 30 days if you miss an episode for it to hit on Peacock or hope your DVR can pick it up of anything changes schedule wise. EDIT: People bring up the TNA competition but, like, they were both accessible and you couldn’t watch another show the next day unless you had a DVR player, which didn’t count to ratings. When you take that away, is it worthwhile competing against something that your distributor isn’t that concerned about with how stuff is released on there as is? On the other side, all of us talking about ideal nights is all well and good but if TNT and WBD like it on Saturdays in general and does what they expect, there’s not much that can be done to change that. I live in buttf*** nowhere Manitoba and we got fiber internet a few years ago. Went from 6mb/s to 60 and could get more if I wasn’t so cheap. Gigabit fiber is about $130 here
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Post by eJm on Mar 18, 2024 12:17:05 GMT -5
Tuesdays and Thursdays, if negotiations go as planned, will be NBA nights so there’s zero chance that’ll happen and nor should WBD. The NBA is a demo cash cow, Inside the NBA is a TV institution and they’re paying Barkley and co enough that they need to use them as much as possible to justify it. As much as WBD love AEW, they don’t love them that much. Mondays are interesting, especially when Raw moves to Netflix. The logic of “Don’t poke the bear” does make sense but on the other hand, it’s not like there’s a reason to worry about the competition. They’re on the biggest streamer, people can watch them whenever and the “head to head” factor goes out the window when it’s not like people will be switching between the two. It’s Disney doing all it can to make the next big Marvel movie compete against the premiere of a DC movie on TNT, it’s almost a non-factor. Should they do it? It’s a coin flip but I almost feel it should be talked about in the negotiations. See what sort of money they’re willing to give and how much of a marketing push to make it happen. I don’t expect it but a amuse it. I could be wrong, but I believe most of the NBA games are on TNT and not TBS, so they could make TBS work for Collision on Thursdays. However, WBD might not want the NBA competing directly with AEW on the same night. I mean, it was why Dynamite moved from TNT to TBS in the first place so they didn’t get pre-empted by stuff like playoff games but yeah, I’d also say they want them as far away from any big NBA game they can on a certain night to make as much as possible.
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Post by uewfigfed on Mar 18, 2024 12:23:32 GMT -5
I’ve always felt weekends should be reserved for PPVs anyhow, so a move to Thursday would be great, with the big two covering the weekday spread: Monday = raw Tues = nxt Weds = dynamite Thurs =collision Fri = smackdown/rampage
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Post by raymondo316 on Mar 18, 2024 12:41:06 GMT -5
I think Thursday would be a great night for Collision, it would also mean I can watch it every week.
Most Saturdays I go out with friends in town, so I rarely ever end up watching it.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Mar 18, 2024 12:50:55 GMT -5
Yes but keep the theme song
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Post by Cyno on Mar 18, 2024 13:10:37 GMT -5
Unless Raw on Netflix moves to another day, I think moving any AEW show there would be a big mistake. And even if Raw moved days, I'd still be hesitant to move a show to Monday. Even with WWE's product being as hot as it is the last couple of years, Raw did record low numbers when it went directly against Monday Night Football this past season. And AEW doesn't have nearly the cultural cache WWE has. Football is the true king of Monday night TV.
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Post by stoptheclocks on Mar 18, 2024 14:47:56 GMT -5
If we're talking about the difference between 450k and 800k, I'm not sure that moving nights would make a massive difference. I'm just not sure the audience is there for it.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 18, 2024 15:01:31 GMT -5
I'd probably watch it more. Saturday nights I'm too dead to really sit down and watch anything. Doubt it'll affect the ratings in any big way though.
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