What’s the ceiling for Will Ospreay?

[HIM]

Really liking the responses. As someone who hasn't followed him much yall are basically saying that he's got Seth Rollins potential if he isn't a piece of shit, keeps his mouth shut and completely focuses on the product and it only. Like, if dude has a muzzle he'd be a franchise player.

[FinalGwen]

Depends if anyone actually cares about Speaking Out when it's not convenient.

[Jindrak Mark]

Mar 21, 2024 11:25:53 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Top 3 or 4 star in the company.

Around this I think. One of the top stars and will be world champ at least once. Around the level of Kenny in 2020-21 or Jericho's first few years.

When MJF returns, title or not, I think he'll still be presented as the top guy/main character so Ospreay or anyone else will be doing well if they manage to usurp him and take that spot from him long-term.

[asuka007]

Mar 21, 2024 20:09:36 GMT -5 Jindrak Mark said:

Mar 21, 2024 11:25:53 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Top 3 or 4 star in the company.

Around this I think. One of the top stars and will be world champ at least once. Around the level of Kenny in 2020-21 or Jericho's first few years.

When MJF returns, title or not, I think he'll still be presented as the top guy/main character so Ospreay or anyone else will be doing well if they manage to usurp him and take that spot from him long-term.

Ospreay has become very popular very quickly with AEW fans and TK needs to run with that I think.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 21, 2024 19:32:15 GMT -5 HIM said:

Really liking the responses. As someone who hasn't followed him much yall are basically saying that he's got Seth Rollins potential if he isn't a piece of shit, keeps his mouth shut and completely focuses on the product and it only. Like, if dude has a muzzle he'd be a franchise player.

I haven't really heard any incident from him in a few years in general which helps, but yeah when you have a track record of being a dumbass you gotta kick that habit.

[asuka007]

Mar 22, 2024 0:56:09 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mar 21, 2024 19:32:15 GMT -5 HIM said:

Really liking the responses. As someone who hasn't followed him much yall are basically saying that he's got Seth Rollins potential if he isn't a piece of shit, keeps his mouth shut and completely focuses on the product and it only. Like, if dude has a muzzle he'd be a franchise player.

I haven't really heard any incident from him in a few years in general which helps, but yeah when you have a track record of being a dumbass you gotta kick that habit.

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Ospreay has openly admitted to being a really dark place mentally for years. It seems like him having a stable relationship (with British woman wrestler Alex Windsor) and becoming a step dad to her son REALLY helped him mature and change his perspective on things.

[Rave]

Mar 22, 2024 0:56:09 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Mar 21, 2024 19:32:15 GMT -5 HIM said:

Really liking the responses. As someone who hasn't followed him much yall are basically saying that he's got Seth Rollins potential if he isn't a piece of shit, keeps his mouth shut and completely focuses on the product and it only. Like, if dude has a muzzle he'd be a franchise player.

I haven't really heard any incident from him in a few years in general which helps, but yeah when you have a track record of being a dumbass you gotta kick that habit.

Heard he mellowed out a lot after breaking up with Bea Priestley, hopefully he ditched the asshole friends he used to stick up for as well.

[Viking Hall]

I'm willing to forgive Will for a lot of past discrepancies when you put things into perspective. He was a small town British kid a in his teens (or barely out of his teens) who was suddenly being paid to travel the world and live his wildest dreams and being told left, right and centre how special and amazing he is. Obviously he was going to make some stupid mistakes, we all do at that age, most of us are just lucky enough to make them when we're not in an industry that views everything in microscopic detail.

Most of what he was accused of can definitely be considered immature at worst and the fact that he's now gone a good few years without any incidents coming to light and now seems to be in a place in his personal life where he's comfortable in his own skin should be commended. Not everyone is going to agree with this, and that's fine but personally I think we should always praise people for growth rather than just writing them off for immature errors in judgment.

[Alice Syndrome]

Mar 22, 2024 2:10:27 GMT -5 asuka007 said:

Mar 22, 2024 0:56:09 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

I haven't really heard any incident from him in a few years in general which helps, but yeah when you have a track record of being a dumbass you gotta kick that habit.

m

Ospreay has openly admitted to being a really dark place mentally for years. It seems like him having a stable relationship (with British woman wrestler Alex Windsor) and becoming a step dad to her son REALLY helped him mature and change his perspective on things.

Well that's great for him then but he still hasn't actually said sorry to Pollyanna, and he still dragged his rapist mate back into Britwres after he got with Alex.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

The thing about someone getting their life straightened out is that they can deal with all the dark shit in their brain they're haunted by, but still be completely unrepentant about the shit they did to others. Good for Will on being in a better place, but that clearly hasn't translated into him magically being a better person or atoning of the bad shit he's done. People didn't dislike him because of the wasps in his brain. If anything, someone who's matured and changed their perspective but doesn't go try to apologize for shit and then goes and keeps up that pattern of behavior further in protecting and standing by shitty rapist buddies? Kind of a worse guy.

[asuka007]

Ospreay has openly admitted to a lot of his past douchiness. He was immature. Also he was diagnosed with ADHD and Dyslexia as well I believe

He’s talked about his becoming a family man changed him and helped him grow as a person.

[lucas_lee]

Mar 21, 2024 20:02:19 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Depends if anyone actually cares about Speaking Out when it's not convenient.

Basically this. Ospreay is a hell of a talent but he has a lot to answer and apologize for. Including using his pull to bring back in Paul Robinson.

[ben:friendship frog]

Mar 22, 2024 14:58:31 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 21, 2024 20:02:19 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Depends if anyone actually cares about Speaking Out when it's not convenient.

Basically this. Ospreay is a hell of a talent but he has a lot to answer and apologize for. Including using his pull to bring back in Paul Robinson.

This being quite recent. About a year ago.

[lucas_lee]

Mar 22, 2024 19:55:11 GMT -5 ben:friendship frog said:

Mar 22, 2024 14:58:31 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Basically this. Ospreay is a hell of a talent but he has a lot to answer and apologize for. Including using his pull to bring back in Paul Robinson.

This being quite recent. About a year ago.

Yeah he basically apologized for the minor stuff and none of the speaking out stuff. Which won't undo the harm he's done but at least it's to show he's truly changed

[markymark]

Good guy Will.

[Allie Kitsune]

Mar 22, 2024 14:58:31 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 21, 2024 20:02:19 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Depends if anyone actually cares about Speaking Out when it's not convenient.

Basically this. Ospreay is a hell of a talent but he has a lot to answer and apologize for. Including using his pull to bring back in Paul Robinson.

And a lot of financial restitution to make.

[kidkamikaze10]

Mar 22, 2024 14:58:31 GMT -5 lucas_lee said:

Mar 21, 2024 20:02:19 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Depends if anyone actually cares about Speaking Out when it's not convenient.

Basically this. Ospreay is a hell of a talent but he has a lot to answer and apologize for. Including using his pull to bring back in Paul Robinson.

Stuff like this is why I get Shawn not associating with Marty. You got to let friends go when they are being horrible, even if you worked with them a long time (for those who don't know, Paul was also Will's long time tag partner)

[Dub H]

Mar 24, 2024 9:41:31 GMT -5 markymark said:

Good guy Will.

first they bring a ring.

Then they take your gold.


And then they colonize you.

[Cyno]

Mar 25, 2024 16:04:16 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Mar 24, 2024 9:41:31 GMT -5 markymark said:

Good guy Will.

first they bring a ring.

Then they take your gold.


And then they colonize you.

Funny thing is one of the big heels in this company is a colonizer gimmick and his name is Lord White. His whole thing is that they slipped it into the Ugandan constitution that the British still own all Ugandan wrestling promotions.

[Dub H]

Mar 26, 2024 11:27:04 GMT -5 Cyno said:

Mar 25, 2024 16:04:16 GMT -5 Dub H said:

first they bring a ring.

Then they take your gold.


And then they colonize you.

Funny thing is one of the big heels in this company is a colonizer gimmick and his name is Lord White. His whole thing is that they slipped it into the Ugandan constitution that the British still own all Ugandan wrestling promotions.

Honestly I cant think of a more wrestling thing to do.

its like that one episode of Avatar the last airbender where they had a pro wrestler in the earth nation that was a Fire Nation Loyalist