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Post by daaave on Mar 25, 2024 9:50:23 GMT -5
The Dark Order. It kept looking like they were gonna be rebooted (twice) to launch them into a new version, but then nothing happens. Especially with all that talent that John Silver has. It's like TK doesn't know what to do, so he does nothing for them. Dark Order are never going to be anything more then mid card. But I really think it's a mistake to turn them heel. They have zero trajectory as heels for me. They are too loveable for me. They should just be this plucky underdog tag who occasionally get a shot at the big boys.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 25, 2024 10:17:20 GMT -5
The Dark Order. It kept looking like they were gonna be rebooted (twice) to launch them into a new version, but then nothing happens. Especially with all that talent that John Silver has. It's like TK doesn't know what to do, so he does nothing for them. Dark Order are never going to be anything more then mid card. But I really think it's a mistake to turn them heel. They have zero trajectory as heels for me. They are too loveable for me. They should just be this plucky underdog tag who occasionally get a shot at the big boys. They lost their best tool for heel heat when Brodie Lee passed. It’s harder to boo them because of the posthumous knowledge of how beloved Brodie was offscreen, and the fact that Evil Uno isn’t anywhere near as effectively hateable a heel performer/character as Lee was. Uno just can’t capture that “boss you don’t cross” aura.
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Post by daaave on Mar 25, 2024 11:27:56 GMT -5
And their best moments in recent time have been the trios tournament run, and getting squashed by Danielson and then later on the BCC when defending their friend Hangman. All things that make them babyfaces
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 25, 2024 11:37:12 GMT -5
Doesn't he have an ACL injury? Nah I just saw him wrestle last night at GCW. Yeah, he's been ready to come back for a while. They even did a Silver Shamrock style promo for Danhausen's return for a few weeks... and then nothing. Tony clearly doesn't get Danhausen... but he also wants all the merch money he brings in. I'm not sure that Triple H would get him either but I could see them at least using him as the pop the crowd mid-carder or give him an in ring talk show or something.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 25, 2024 12:36:05 GMT -5
Nah I just saw him wrestle last night at GCW. Yeah, he's been ready to come back for a while. They even did a Silver Shamrock style promo for Danhausen's return for a few weeks... and then nothing. Tony clearly doesn't get Danhausen... but he also wants all the merch money he brings in. I'm not sure that Triple H would get him either but I could see them at least using him as the pop the crowd mid-carder or give him an in ring talk show or something. They'd make him change his name and he wouldn't be able to put "-hausen" at the end of words anymore.
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Post by 4real on Mar 26, 2024 3:51:02 GMT -5
Dark Order are never going to be anything more then mid card. But I really think it's a mistake to turn them heel. They have zero trajectory as heels for me. They are too loveable for me. They should just be this plucky underdog tag who occasionally get a shot at the big boys. They lost their best tool for heel heat when Brodie Lee passed. It’s harder to boo them because of the posthumous knowledge of how beloved Brodie was offscreen, and the fact that Evil Uno isn’t anywhere near as effectively hateable a heel performer/character as Lee was. Uno just can’t capture that “boss you don’t cross” aura. They should have been career babyfaces after Brodie’s death. Turning 10 I thought was fine but they just never followed that up at all.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Mar 26, 2024 6:11:58 GMT -5
I want the drugs everyone saying MJF are on.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Mar 26, 2024 6:17:48 GMT -5
I want the drugs everyone saying MJF are on. I’m not saying it will happen, but god damn the show’s been so good since he’s been gone. He had a couple banger matches but I’ve always found his heel character corny and his face run was even cornier. The Adam cole angle wore out it’s welcome with me real fast and his match with Jay White cemented him as one of my least favorite wrestlers.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Mar 26, 2024 6:23:34 GMT -5
I want the drugs everyone saying MJF are on. I’m not saying it will happen, but god damn the show’s been so good since he’s been gone. He had a couple banger matches but I’ve always found his heel character corny and his face run was even cornier. The Adam cole angle wore out it’s welcome with me real fast and his match with Jay White cemented him as one of my least favorite wrestlers. I mean that's fair but the guy is in the top 3 promos in the entire promotion if not flat out #1 and he's always going to be insanely over no matter what he's doing. His face run showed he has a lot more going for him than just "most hated man in wrestling". Whether he's feuding over the world title or not he's always going to be prominently placed on the card at this point. Dudes like him don't get lost in the shuffle because some other guys who are better in the ring show up.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Mar 26, 2024 6:34:02 GMT -5
I’m not saying it will happen, but god damn the show’s been so good since he’s been gone. He had a couple banger matches but I’ve always found his heel character corny and his face run was even cornier. The Adam cole angle wore out it’s welcome with me real fast and his match with Jay White cemented him as one of my least favorite wrestlers. I mean that's fair but the guy is in the top 3 promos in the entire promotion if not flat out #1 and he's always going to be insanely over no matter what he's doing. His face run showed he has a lot more going for him than just "most hated man in wrestling". Whether he's feuding over the world title or not he's always going to be prominently placed on the card at this point. Dudes like him don't get lost in the shuffle because some other guys who are better in the ring show up. I personally think he’s a terrible promo haha. But yeah, he’s not gonna get lost in the shuffle as clearly he’s someone Tony values.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 26, 2024 14:53:01 GMT -5
A big killer for a lot of folks in aew is when you just disappear from dynamite and collision for months on end. Hard to maintain any kind of steam like. Yes, you don’t need everybody on every show BUT outta sight really is outta mind unless you’re already at a certain level.
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