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Post by sfvega on Mar 22, 2024 22:02:44 GMT -5
Piggybacking on the "embarrassment of riches" thread, who do you think had a much better outlook to move up the card a while ago that you think will be lost in the shuffle with another influx of talent like Ospreay, Okada, Mone in the mix? That's the issue with being buried in talent; it's hard to make everyone look good. One thing golden era NXT got right is you constantly had wrestlers moving up to the main roster so people underneath could freely flow up instead of having a logjam. A couple that strike me are Jungle Boy and Serena Deeb. Both seemed like they wouldn't be out of place in the title picture, but now both seem like kind of afterthoughts. Not that they couldn't, but it's less likely to have a big successful run. Jungle Boy seemed like an inevitable star in early AEW and the shine just doesn't seem like it's there anymore. Deeb seemed like a given she'd have a long run with women's belt as a workhorse champion before she got injured. Now, not to say she's been put on the backburner, but it doesn't seem like she has the same momentum.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 23, 2024 0:56:45 GMT -5
For me it won't be someone getting lost in the shuffle organically, it'd come down to wrestlers health, injuries card reworkings, and stuff simply happening and forming for months while they're out
So I can't say for sure who might be, but that's been the real de-railer of momentum quicker then new talent coming in, Keith Lee being the biggest example, and sadly also RUSH just recently (Hope he catches back on quick when he's back)
Tony just named like his big what eightish focuses for AEW's future? Those would be who I keep the closest eye on to see how they go.
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Post by daaave on Mar 23, 2024 1:36:52 GMT -5
Ricky Starks
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Post by Viking Hall on Mar 23, 2024 4:18:34 GMT -5
Honestly? MJF might need an industry shaking comeback to not get lost in the current mix. He's an incredible talent but AEW with a healthy roster... there's just levels right now. He fully has the ability to be up there, but with so many shiny new toys and others upping their game to keep up, he's going to need be on point from the second he returns.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Mar 23, 2024 8:09:22 GMT -5
Hobbs. Sammy, Potentially Darby.
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Post by bob on Mar 23, 2024 9:03:43 GMT -5
Ricky Starks Sammy Guevera Ortiz Dark Order Keith Lee Ehtan Page Danhausen Butcher and Blade
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Post by sfvega on Mar 23, 2024 12:10:14 GMT -5
Starks is sadly a good guess. I really like him, but he does seem to have sputtered a bit after a hot run. I still believe in him, but the roster is just so deep and talented. Honestly? MJF might need an industry shaking comeback to not get lost in the current mix. He's an incredible talent but AEW with a healthy roster... there's just levels right now. He fully has the ability to be up there, but with so many shiny new toys and others upping their game to keep up, he's going to need be on point from the second he returns. I feel like MJF will always have a top spot because of his mic work. AEW has a lot of good promos. Swerve, Mox, Hangman, Copeland, Bryan, etc. But not that many great promos. Max will always be able to talk himself to relevance.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 23, 2024 12:58:25 GMT -5
Hobbs. Sammy, Potentially Darby. Darby was lynch pinned as one of Tony Khan's like 8 AEW Future Pillars so I assume he won't be, especially after helping Sting retire the way he did It'll really be if his body holds more then losing him, I think he's far too over to just not use.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Mar 23, 2024 13:21:22 GMT -5
Honestly? MJF might need an industry shaking comeback to not get lost in the current mix. He's an incredible talent but AEW with a healthy roster... there's just levels right now. He fully has the ability to be up there, but with so many shiny new toys and others upping their game to keep up, he's going to need be on point from the second he returns. I can see MJF being like another Seth. Seth is obviously a highly successful wrestler but he’s spent years at a time between world title runs sometimes
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Post by CeilingFan on Mar 23, 2024 14:29:26 GMT -5
Griff Garrison.
And may he stay lost!
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Post by jb80 on Mar 23, 2024 15:03:35 GMT -5
I think Tony forgot that Kip Sabian still works there.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Mar 23, 2024 15:12:05 GMT -5
Sonic, very unfortunately. Very very unfortunately.
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Post by booty on Mar 23, 2024 15:51:20 GMT -5
It’s too bad this is unlikely to happen, but aew could definitely stagger things in a way that gives their roster an offseason of sorts. Essentially they could divide the roster in quarters and give each quarter a rolling 3 months off. Obviously you’d need to structure titles and feuds to work around this, but with enough planning, it’d certainly be doable.
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Post by bearned on Mar 23, 2024 16:44:28 GMT -5
Starks is the obvious one. He’s super talented and charismatic (though he can be a surprisingly nervous promo) but he just seems to always be a nearly-man.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 23, 2024 19:26:39 GMT -5
It’s too bad this is unlikely to happen, but aew could definitely stagger things in a way that gives their roster an offseason of sorts. Essentially they could divide the roster in quarters and give each quarter a rolling 3 months off. Obviously you’d need to structure titles and feuds to work around this, but with enough planning, it’d certainly be doable. I remember the New Day guys talking about this back when they did their podcast. Like two rosters that both works 8 months but only overlap for 4 and that's where the blowoffs happen. I loved the idea, and especially for the injury standpoint. Plus it's easier to keep your act fresh when you're not on TV 52 weeks a year. The only issues are they have so much TV time to fill and the pay scale for contracts already signed for X amount a year. But I think it could, and should, definitely be a thing in the future. Less wear and tear, better work/life balance, and you don't have to worry about booking 100 talents well at the same time.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 23, 2024 19:32:43 GMT -5
Hobbs. Sammy, Potentially Darby. Darby was lynch pinned as one of Tony Khan's like 8 AEW Future Pillars so I assume he won't be, especially after helping Sting retire the way he did It'll really be if his body holds more then losing him, I think he's far too over to just not use. I hope so. I'm a big fan of Darby, but also he really brings a very different feel in both act and presentation. Unique acts in wrestling aren't easy to come by, and the crowds are always behind him.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 23, 2024 19:49:51 GMT -5
Starks is sadly a good guess. I really like him, but he does seem to have sputtered a bit after a hot run. I still believe in him, but the roster is just so deep and talented. Honestly? MJF might need an industry shaking comeback to not get lost in the current mix. He's an incredible talent but AEW with a healthy roster... there's just levels right now. He fully has the ability to be up there, but with so many shiny new toys and others upping their game to keep up, he's going to need be on point from the second he returns. I feel like MJF will always have a top spot because of his mic work. AEW has a lot of good promos. Swerve, Mox, Hangman, Copeland, Bryan, etc. But not that many great promos. Max will always be able to talk himself to relevance. Plus, MJF will most certainly going to be slotted into a feud with Adam Cole and the Undisputed Kingdom, so that's taken care of.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Mar 23, 2024 21:48:10 GMT -5
This should just be an Ethan Page tribute thread.
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Post by Some Guy on Mar 23, 2024 22:03:13 GMT -5
Honestly? MJF might need an industry shaking comeback to not get lost in the current mix. He's an incredible talent but AEW with a healthy roster... there's just levels right now. He fully has the ability to be up there, but with so many shiny new toys and others upping their game to keep up, he's going to need be on point from the second he returns. Well, there's a reason AEW had an immediate bounceback/"we're back" stuff the moment he lost the title in the first place.
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Post by HIM on Mar 23, 2024 23:02:40 GMT -5
- Starks is outta there. He's absolutely WWE bound. - MJF, man I don't know about him. I think he'll end up being wherever Darby is right now. Sure, he'll get the spotlight but with all these other stars, yeah, I don't know what'll happen with him. Lost in the shuffle indeed. - Miro is gonna be outta there. With that divorce stuff, yeah... - Keith Lee will be lost in the shuffle sadly. - Sammy is a special case. Just when I say he's lost in the shuffle they always give him something but he for sure ain't getting higher than he was during that Four Pillar title match. He's a utility main eventer, mostly upper midcarder. - Jack Perry will get a spotlight on him when he returns but then he'll be pushed into that midcarder role he was in before.
Like, a lot of these dudes are at the level where they'll probably be at for the rest of their AEW career. It ain't their fault but when you got all these other wrestlers who are better, when you've seen that Tony ain't really promoting people to a higher level at times, it is what it is.
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