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Post by khali on Apr 3, 2024 14:40:52 GMT -5
Anyway, this last page is the latest example of why people don’t come forward with accusations.
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Post by Soultastic on Apr 3, 2024 14:42:01 GMT -5
Anyway, this last page is the latest example of why people don’t come forward with accusations. Agreed. Any accusation deserves an investigation, not "it's true for sure" or "that's a lie for sure".
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 3, 2024 14:44:06 GMT -5
After reading Gulaks statement it seems like he did do something weird, but he’s not at Vince/Weinstien territory. I don’t think he had any malice or anything like that, but he def should learn a lesson from this
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 3, 2024 14:45:21 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of a lot of what Ronda has said in the past, but I don't feel comfortable calling her a liar. Whether or not Drew is telling the truth, she came away feeling uncomfortable and like she was wronged.
Going after her workrate or whatever as some kind of proof she's lying isn't helping to shed the stereotype people have about wrestling fans
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 3, 2024 14:46:09 GMT -5
After reading Gulaks statement it seems like he did do something weird, but he’s not at Vince/Weinstien territory. I don’t think he had any malice or anything like that, but he def should learn a lesson from this No, he should totally get a fine and suspension at worse but again, it’s more a small embodiment of the culture established in the company and the business as a whole if anything.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Apr 3, 2024 14:49:19 GMT -5
I just read through this thread and yeah, this took a sharp turn on page 5.
Anyways, there are levels to all of it but it sounds like Drew still should have been punished in some way if she felt her personal space was breached. That simple. Not liking her as a person doesn't mean she shouldn't be treated like one.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Apr 3, 2024 14:53:29 GMT -5
After reading Gulaks statement it seems like he did do something weird, but he’s not at Vince/Weinstien territory. I don’t think he had any malice or anything like that, but he def should learn a lesson from this Honestly, I didn't even take Ronda's comments in the interview as saying Gulak was anywhere close to Vince/Weinstein. She was saying that Gulak did something that crossed a boundary and was kind of weird and no one even acknowledged that it crossed a boundary and that, to her, was indicative of the backstage culture towards women during her time at WWE.
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 3, 2024 15:04:15 GMT -5
Yeah, on a scale of 1-10 of creepy behavior with 10 being "the absolute scum of the Earth," this is probably a 2 or 3 at worst. Don't think Drew should lose his job over it or anything, Still, a boundary was crossed and nothing was done about it, not even a stern talking-to.
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Post by khali on Apr 3, 2024 15:04:20 GMT -5
After reading Gulaks statement it seems like he did do something weird, but he’s not at Vince/Weinstien territory. I don’t think he had any malice or anything like that, but he def should learn a lesson from this Honestly, I didn't even take Ronda's comments in the interview as saying Gulak was anywhere close to Vince/Weinstein. She was saying that Gulak did something that crossed a boundary and was kind of weird and no one even acknowledged that it crossed a boundary and that, to her, was indicative of the backstage culture towards women during her time at WWE. And like, our line shouldn’t be at a Weinstein level. The kind of thing Gulak is said to have done is a lot more like what we might come across in day to day life at work—some dude doing something that isn’t criminal but should be called out when you see it.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Apr 3, 2024 15:07:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I didn't even take Ronda's comments in the interview as saying Gulak was anywhere close to Vince/Weinstein. She was saying that Gulak did something that crossed a boundary and was kind of weird and no one even acknowledged that it crossed a boundary and that, to her, was indicative of the backstage culture towards women during her time at WWE. And like, our line shouldn’t be at a Weinstein level. The kind of thing Gulak is said to have done is a lot more like what we might come across in day to day life at work—some dude doing something that isn’t criminal but should be called out when you see it. 100%. I just felt like over the last couple of pages of this thread, the people tripping over themselves to Stand Up for WWE™ don't seem to have even listened to what Ronda actually said.
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Post by tirtefaa on Apr 3, 2024 15:14:27 GMT -5
I don't know if I can entirely blame Drew since it does seem like he was coerced into it by Bela Lugosi.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 3, 2024 15:26:10 GMT -5
I always find it weird when people, in pursuit of nuance, try to throw around the idea that X isn't as bad as Y and therefore unspecified thing, 3which in turn is just trampling over the actual nuance of what's being presented for their own weirder version of nuance.
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Post by hbkid718 on Apr 3, 2024 15:29:37 GMT -5
f*** all of you. Yes, I was wrong in talking about Ronda as a wrestler instead of a person. I don't know who's right or wrong in the situation. I was just giving my opinion as it is a free country. As for the comment that that called me the "no line break Stat guy" or whatever the hell it was, the reason I am so negative about the NXT Women's Division is because it's not good. Some of them are good wrestlers, but most of them have a lot of training to do. But if this is all how you all feel about me, then I'm done. I will share my Facts & Records with other people that will treat me with more respect.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 3, 2024 15:31:25 GMT -5
Just as a note, mostly as a place of a mod, the right to express your opinion also includes the right to express your agreements and disagreements to said opinion.
Because apparently that needs to be clarified on an online message board.
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Post by Moppy on Apr 3, 2024 15:33:03 GMT -5
f*** all of you. Yes, I was wrong in talking about Ronda as a wrestler instead of a person. I don't know who's right or wrong in the situation. I was just giving my opinion as it is a free country. As for the comment that that called me the "no line break Stat guy" or whatever the hell it was, the reason I am so negative about the NXT Women's Division is because it's not good. Some of them are good wrestlers, but most of them have a lot of training to do. But if this is all how you all feel about me, then I'm done. I will share my Facts & Records with other people that will treat me with more respect. You came into the thread saying you believe Drew Gulak seemingly because you equated that with Ronda not paying her dues, as if that has anything to do with anything. I'm not sure what kind of response you were expecting.
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Post by hbkid718 on Apr 3, 2024 15:36:19 GMT -5
I didn't want any response. I was giving my opinion about Ronda & what I have heard about her. And even if she's telling the truth, it's not a big deal. Drew allegedly touched her drawstring on her pants that were hanging out when he was being a gentleman to shake her hand. He didn't do anything bad. He apologized. There shouldn't be any punishment.
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 3, 2024 15:39:24 GMT -5
If you didn't want responses, don't post something so f***ing repugnant.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Apr 3, 2024 15:39:30 GMT -5
I didn't want any response. I was giving my opinion about Ronda & what I have heard about her. And even if she's telling the truth, it's not a big deal. Drew allegedly touched her drawstring on her pants that were hanging out when he was being a gentleman to shake her hand. He didn't do anything bad. He apologized. There shouldn't be any punishment. Just for posterity's sake, that's not what Drew allegedly did. That's what Drew says he did in his own defense.
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Post by hbkid718 on Apr 3, 2024 15:43:33 GMT -5
The only people that know what really happened is Ronda & Drew. So, there's no need to continue the conversation. I apologize for all of my comments. I have a bad habit of posting things without thinking about it and other's opinions. I really enjoy interacting here & sharing my thoughts & stats. I appreciate those that read them even if they are very long.
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Post by HIM on Apr 3, 2024 15:53:17 GMT -5
That dude lost his marbles in a Ronda Rousey Drew Gulak thread of all places. Why man lmao. He turned a serious thread into a damn comedy lol.
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