khali
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Post by khali on Apr 3, 2024 15:54:16 GMT -5
I didn't want any response. I was giving my opinion about Ronda & what I have heard about her. And even if she's telling the truth, it's not a big deal. Drew allegedly touched her drawstring on her pants that were hanging out when he was being a gentleman to shake her hand. He didn't do anything bad. He apologized. There shouldn't be any punishment. “He was a being a gentleman” is such a funny leap because even Gulak didn’t paint himself in that generous of a light.
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Post by hbkid718 on Apr 3, 2024 15:54:27 GMT -5
That dude lost his marbles in a Ronda Rousey thread of all places. Why man lmao. He turned a serious thread into a damn comedy lol. I apologized. Let's move on.
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Post by jb80 on Apr 3, 2024 16:04:13 GMT -5
Gentleman Drew Gulak is tearing this forum apart and I don't like it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 3, 2024 16:04:47 GMT -5
Seriously, can we make points we want to make without using slurs? It’s Autism Awareness Month for Gods sake.
And yes, I am Autistic so I have some actual stakes in this.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Apr 3, 2024 16:18:20 GMT -5
can you imagine telling any of this to the CZW roster like 12 or 13 years ago? they'd try you as a witch
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2024 16:28:23 GMT -5
Oh my god I was only away for a few hours. If I still had a photobucket login I would be posting that Troy gif so fast
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Apr 3, 2024 16:39:31 GMT -5
I want someone to recreate the handshake Gulak described because it sounds ridiculous.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 3, 2024 16:40:36 GMT -5
I like pulling the strings on peoples' clothes. You can type as many paragraphs as you want about it and you're not going to change my mind. This is America and people are allowed to yank on whatever they want.
It's a little thing called 'freedom'.
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Post by Denny Zen is Cooking™ on Apr 3, 2024 16:42:38 GMT -5
I want someone to recreate the handshake Gulak described because it sounds ridiculous. Please put the Curb music behind it.
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Post by BorneAgain on Apr 3, 2024 16:43:35 GMT -5
When this thread began I did not expect it to turn into Gulak explaining himself with a scenario right out of a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode.
The whole thing does strike me as something that should be properly investigated, relevant talents questioned, and Gulak looked at accordingly. If there's more there, action should be taken. I don't know if there's fire to this smoke, but the locker room does deserve some genuine expectation of safety and discipline regardless.
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Post by government mule on Apr 3, 2024 16:49:48 GMT -5
I really hate it when one side of the drawstring on shorts or trousers sometimes disappears back in to the hole of the waistband and it takes you ages to fish it back out again.
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Post by Kalmia on Apr 3, 2024 17:03:40 GMT -5
Being completely serious, it sounds like one of those situations where he thought it was no big deal and wouldn't care if someone did it to him but for her, it was a way she didn't feel was appropriate for a work colleague to act. I'm sure Gulak didn't mean anything bad but it's just another reminder that you do not touch people or their clothing without their consent. It's really not that difficult to just keep your hands to yourself, no matter what your intentions are.
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Post by yokohamacpfc on Apr 3, 2024 17:05:26 GMT -5
Drew Gulak, yesterday.
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Post by katieklaus on Apr 3, 2024 17:08:52 GMT -5
Whether you believe him or her I fail to see how this is sexual harassment. Accidental? Maybe. Weird? Maybe. A failed rib? Maybe. Being made a bigger deal out of by her in an attention grab when she's trying to sell a book? Definitely. The go back to the farm stuff is a bit much but honestly what a non-story. Regardless of what you think of Ronda Rousey as a human being, much less as a wrestler, she's the most famous female mixed martial artist of all-time. Do you really think that she needs to "attention grab" to advertise her book by randomly making allegations against a random WWE lower midcarder? Jesus Christ, why do I come into the WWE section anymore...? Her name is on everyone's lips. This is making people talk. The media rounds for the book are specifically designed to get attention. While she might have been the most famous female UFC fighter that ended eight years ago and she hasn't exactly been the most popular person since. We can talk about status and power but when looking at the hard facts I think the WrestleMania headliner and woman who's debut match had her beating up on icons of the industry and company leaders has a bit more status than the dude who sits in catering. By no means am I saying she made it up but do I believe she made something weird but completely unintentional into a big deal so that we're here talking about her now just when it so happens to benefit her profile by doing so? Yes.
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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 3, 2024 17:13:10 GMT -5
I can believe there is a chance Gulak is innocent say he and Ronda were close while shaking hands and his hand brush against the string of her pants. Of course Ronda words it as he pulled on the string. The thing that makes me sort of side with Gulak is that he isn't denying the situation where as most would just deny deny deny the situation ever occured. Of course it is impossible to take a side with no visual evidence of said situation. I do think the fact that, according to Ronda, everyone else present acted like nothing happened supports Drew’s story tbh. I can’t imagine an undercard wrestler going right at the crotch of the most famous woman in the company in full view of multiple people not garnering a reaction no matter how bad the culture is.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 3, 2024 17:37:40 GMT -5
Regardless of what you think of Ronda Rousey as a human being, much less as a wrestler, she's the most famous female mixed martial artist of all-time. Do you really think that she needs to "attention grab" to advertise her book by randomly making allegations against a random WWE lower midcarder? Jesus Christ, why do I come into the WWE section anymore...? Her name is on everyone's lips. This is making people talk. The media rounds for the book are specifically designed to get attention. While she might have been the most famous female UFC fighter that ended eight years ago and she hasn't exactly been the most popular person since. We can talk about status and power but when looking at the hard facts I think the WrestleMania headliner and woman who's debut match had her beating up on icons of the industry and company leaders has a bit more status than the dude who sits in catering. By no means am I saying she made it up but do I believe she made something weird but completely unintentional into a big deal so that we're here talking about her now just when it so happens to benefit her profile by doing so? Yes. She's being interviewed by a news channel about the allegatiosn because she's been an active, vocal presence in the topic, please stop digging your hole deeper by saying repugnant things because this shit is why people don't come forward about things that were done to them. There's no benefit. She's speaking about an issue she cares a lot about and does not actually meaningfully have to, because a whole lot of famous people in the industry have not said shit.
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Post by katieklaus on Apr 3, 2024 17:40:01 GMT -5
Her name is on everyone's lips. This is making people talk. The media rounds for the book are specifically designed to get attention. While she might have been the most famous female UFC fighter that ended eight years ago and she hasn't exactly been the most popular person since. We can talk about status and power but when looking at the hard facts I think the WrestleMania headliner and woman who's debut match had her beating up on icons of the industry and company leaders has a bit more status than the dude who sits in catering. By no means am I saying she made it up but do I believe she made something weird but completely unintentional into a big deal so that we're here talking about her now just when it so happens to benefit her profile by doing so? Yes. She's being interviewed by a news channel about the allegatiosn because she's been an active, vocal presence in the topic, please stop digging your hole deeper by saying repugnant things because this shit is why people don't come forward about things that were done to them. There's no benefit. She's speaking about an issue she cares a lot about and does not actually meaningfully have to, because a whole lot of famous people in the industry have not said shit. "This seems like an innocent mistake being blown out of proportion." 'Repugnant things." As I was saying. 😂
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 3, 2024 17:47:39 GMT -5
She's being interviewed by a news channel about the allegatiosn because she's been an active, vocal presence in the topic, please stop digging your hole deeper by saying repugnant things because this shit is why people don't come forward about things that were done to them. There's no benefit. She's speaking about an issue she cares a lot about and does not actually meaningfully have to, because a whole lot of famous people in the industry have not said shit. "This seems like an innocent mistake being blown out of proportion." 'Repugnant things." As I was saying. 😂 Repugnant because you're not even giving her the grace of "She's overreacting", but claiming this is shit she doesn't even care much about and is only bringing up for attention and to sell a book. Because "she's only trying to get attention and sell a book" maps so sincerely on to literally the entire spectrum of harm and sexual harassment from this stupid shit up to shit like what Vince's lawyers are saying about his accuser. It's all just one big bucket of the same dismissals applied to every degree of severity on these things. Someone had something done to her that made her uncomfortable, you're accusing her of only bringing it up for attention. I hate to break it to you but like. That's bad? That sucks. It puts the ideas out into the world and continues to perpetuate them and even if you think you wouldn't say them in bigger stakes situations, it's still been said and out there now, it's still adding to that culturally.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 3, 2024 17:56:09 GMT -5
Gentleman Drew Gulak: he’ll shake your hand, touch your pants, and never break eye contact. He respects you too much to do that.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 3, 2024 18:09:54 GMT -5
"This seems like an innocent mistake being blown out of proportion." 'Repugnant things." As I was saying. 😂 Repugnant because you're not even giving her the grace of "She's overreacting", but claiming this is shit she doesn't even care much about and is only bringing up for attention and to sell a book. Because "she's only trying to get attention and sell a book" maps so sincerely on to literally the entire spectrum of harm and sexual harassment from this stupid shit up to shit like what Vince's lawyers are saying about his accuser. It's all just one big bucket of the same dismissals applied to every degree of severity on these things. Someone had something done to her that made her uncomfortable, you're accusing her of only bringing it up for attention. I hate to break it to you but like. That's bad? That sucks. It puts the ideas out into the world and continues to perpetuate them and even if you think you wouldn't say them in bigger stakes situations, it's still been said and out there now, it's still adding to that culturally. And again, what would she gain for calling out someone like Drew Gulak for making her feel uncomfortable? Take him away from his 0 bookings across WrestleMania weekend?
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