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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 15, 2024 21:28:26 GMT -5
So in 2024 he was outed as a step below Hitler, 2022 he was outed as a sex pest (but not like what we know today). I feel like 2019 is when the Ashley Massaro stuff came out people started really hating on him. Before that he was respected for his contributions to wrestling even though we didn’t like him as a booker
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Post by fg on Apr 15, 2024 21:30:02 GMT -5
So in 2024 he was outed as a step below Hitler, 2022 he was outed as a sex pest (but not like what we know today). I feel like 2019 is when the Ashley Massaro stuff came out people started really hating on him. Before that he was respected for his contributions to wrestling even though we didn’t like him as a booker He was hated loooong before 2019. I want to say the hate started in 1997 due to you-know-what. It got amplified somewhat in 2001 and the rest if history.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 15, 2024 21:33:21 GMT -5
Just talking about booking.. by at least 2010 I think people realised he was slipping majorly, and it wasn't just fans pining for the attitude era.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Apr 15, 2024 21:34:18 GMT -5
So in 2024 he was outed as a step below Hitler, 2022 he was outed as a sex pest (but not like what we know today). I feel like 2019 is when the Ashley Massaro stuff came out people started really hating on him. Before that he was respected for his contributions to wrestling even though we didn’t like him as a booker He was hated loooong before 2019. I want to say the hate started in 1997 due to you-know-what. It got amplified somewhat in 2001 and the rest if history. I will go and say one thing and one thing only and most of us never looked at him the same. Katie Vick. September 2002. F*** that guy with the deplorable shit that had nothing to do with WWE, wrestling or "sports entertainment" at all. Just one guy fulfilling a sick fantasy.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Apr 15, 2024 21:42:22 GMT -5
I feel like it was always common knowledge Vince was a total piece of shit, it just became less and less tolerable.
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Post by cosmo on Apr 15, 2024 21:44:43 GMT -5
I feel like it was always common knowledge Vince was a total piece of shit, it just became less and less tolerable.
Yeah, Vince being a big piece of shit was always an open secret at best. Just how big a piece of shit, meanwhile, is something that developed over time.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Apr 15, 2024 21:45:39 GMT -5
So in 2024 he was outed as a step below Hitler, 2022 he was outed as a sex pest (but not like what we know today). I feel like 2019 is when the Ashley Massaro stuff came out people started really hating on him. Before that he was respected for his contributions to wrestling even though we didn’t like him as a booker He was hated loooong before 2019. I want to say the hate started in 1997 due to you-know-what. It got amplified somewhat in 2001 and the rest if history. I feel like for a long time we’d hear goofy stories about Vince and sometimes we’d forget about his bullshit and find him as a lovable goofy old man
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Apr 15, 2024 21:55:11 GMT -5
So in 2024 he was outed as a step below Hitler, 2022 he was outed as a sex pest (but not like what we know today). I feel like 2019 is when the Ashley Massaro stuff came out people started really hating on him. Before that he was respected for his contributions to wrestling even though we didn’t like him as a booker This forum has been frustrated with the boring direction of VKM for ages. As for personal dislike, there were always rumblings, but I think most people wanted evidence. And I am really not sure how many rational human beings can read those text messages and think there is a decent human being in there anymore
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Post by jean0987654321 on Apr 15, 2024 22:02:10 GMT -5
For me, it was after Eddie and Benoit die. They were my favs and he certainly aided them to their deathbeds (and Woman's and Daniel's too) due to a lack of drug policy and hectic work schedule
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Apr 15, 2024 22:06:10 GMT -5
When I started browsing in 04/05 the HHH/Steph hate was more prevalent, but it was always there.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Apr 15, 2024 22:06:49 GMT -5
The promoters hated him since forever.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Apr 15, 2024 22:08:01 GMT -5
For me personally it began with the Daniel Bryan can't win a match on NXT shit.
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Post by GOTHIC CHARISMA 🧊 🥶❄️FURY on Apr 15, 2024 22:08:33 GMT -5
at least the late 90s, probably even earlier for most people. i remember watching as a little kid and even then hearing he was a true piece of shit aside from the asshole character he played on TV. I don't remember watching WWF/WWE and thinking he was anything but bad
to this degree though? good question
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Apr 15, 2024 22:13:55 GMT -5
People have always known he's a piece of shit person. But his fun quirks and bizarre things he did (showing KK how to lapdance, wanting to fight a small MMA fighter, who the f*** hired Raven) made people look past his general shittiness. But it's gradually built up where the shittiness completely outweighs the quirkiness.
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Post by XIII on Apr 15, 2024 22:17:20 GMT -5
He wasn’t widely known as the actual owner of the WWE until the 90s so, before that only the hardcore newsletter readers, promoters, and some wrestlers hated him. Then the steroid/ring boys/Rita Chatterton News hit and people were starting to wonder but gave him the benefit of the doubt. Then people enjoyed him as the early Mr. McMahon character. After WCW went under and the booking got ever more dedicated to entertaining him and him only the fans started turning on him. Then Danielson happened and people were busting that ass. It’s just been generally antagonistic from both the fans and Vince for a good while.
There have always been rumors about Vince though. I was just a kid when my dad who didn’t even really watch wrestling saw Superfly at WM5 and he said that Superfly killed a woman and Vince covered it up. lol
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Post by ayumidah on Apr 15, 2024 22:19:05 GMT -5
yeah I think for as long as I've frequented wrestling sites, the general consensus I'd always see was along the lines of "I know he's kind of trash but if something ever happens to him, I'm still gonna be sad because of everything he did in wrestling/how I grew up watching him/etc" and then that changed quickly around 2019/2020
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Post by Mike Strike on Apr 15, 2024 22:29:42 GMT -5
Squandering the Invasion angle just to turn it into Vince's WWF VS. Shane and Steph's WWF. Fate had handed the ultimate angle/feud of every fanboy's dream for the sake of stroking his petty ego instead.
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Post by Cyno on Apr 15, 2024 23:10:22 GMT -5
VKM's been known as a piece of garbage since at least 1997.
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Post by msc on Apr 16, 2024 1:35:09 GMT -5
When he abused all those people.
Although he went from cool wrestling guy to person I side eyed after that Trish segment in 2001.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 16, 2024 1:48:13 GMT -5
What year did Tim Berners-Lee invent the internet? Before that.
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