Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on May 8, 2024 8:49:25 GMT -5
This is the most rational take on Flair on the Internet. The man has desperately needed help for at least 25 years but sadly seems content to keep going farther and farther down the same road. Also, congratulations on coming up one year! Thank you, that’s really kind of you bud. Yes CONGRATS on a year. But you are right on Flair. Dude is set in his ways and gonna do what he wants to do. Flair is an odd case for me. Even as a kid I was a huge fan of him. Was really the first heel I cheered. Over the past 20 yeaars while I still love hsi classic matches and promos it gets where I really rather not meet Ric. Almost did a few years back. Kind of glad so far the ones I grew up loving and have met haven't been a disappointment. |
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Ben Wyatt
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Are You Gonna Go My Way?
I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 8, 2024 10:05:29 GMT -5
Who knows if he's lying, but this is still a good time to remind everyone that every single person involved in Flair's last match sucks for allowing it to happen I semi felt that way. Then talked to the ref that counted the pin.Pondwater Dave Miller. "Flair is gonna do what Flair wants to do." and he is right. Dave got to count the pin on his childhood hero. And got a good pay day out of it. I rather Flair had not done the match. But free will and he is a grown man if he chooses to endanger his life that is on him. Oh, I understand it's his choice. My point is that a whole parade of people, people close to him, enabled him to do it. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 9, 2024 8:30:19 GMT -5
Not counting wrestlers who literally murdered people, has anyone in the industry managed to piss away their status to the degree Ric Flair has in the last 15 years? It's just an endless chain of "Oh, God, now what?" Yeah Hogan is worse. Flair arguably has worse accusations given that Hogan's private opinions leaked versus Flair having exposed himself to women on a plane. But Flair still gets booked and got signed to AEW. So no, Hogan did worse damage to his legacy Hey now Gizzark let's be totally fair; Hogan did get trucked out in front of the first post-pandemic Wrestlemania crowd to do slapstick and then gave an apology to the locker room where he told people not to get caught saying their racist rants on camera. Hogan came back. They're both here. Everything sucks. We all lose. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 9, 2024 9:03:02 GMT -5
Yeah Hogan is worse. Flair arguably has worse accusations given that Hogan's private opinions leaked versus Flair having exposed himself to women on a plane. But Flair still gets booked and got signed to AEW. So no, Hogan did worse damage to his legacy Hey now Gizzark let's be totally fair; Hogan did get trucked out in front of the first post-pandemic Wrestlemania crowd to do slapstick and then gave an apology to the locker room where he told people not to get caught saying their racist rants on camera. Hogan came back. They're both here. Everything sucks. We all lose. Oh hey you're totally correct! I love wrestling |
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Post by James Fabiano on May 9, 2024 9:19:20 GMT -5
Maybe that's why he was so cranky at that restaurant. $1500 of food doesn't do wonders for your health.
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Post by James Fabiano on May 9, 2024 9:21:17 GMT -5
Hey now Gizzark let's be totally fair; Hogan did get trucked out in front of the first post-pandemic Wrestlemania crowd to do slapstick and then gave an apology to the locker room where he told people not to get caught saying their racist rants on camera. Hogan came back. They're both here. Everything sucks. We all lose. Oh hey you're totally correct! I love wrestling Flair never left. I guess that seems worse form if you look at it that way. But on the other hand, Hogan gets bigger roles in a legacy character role. (EDIT: Oh yeah. Flair WAS shunned for a bit after that DSOTR episode. Never mind.) On the other, other hand, Hogan is all talk. Yeah I know words have profound effects on people. But Flair's antics involve some form of physicality. Depends on how you look at it. Speaking of words, what gets lost often thinking of what Hulk was caught saying in That Video is the time when he basically said Nick's friend deserved to be near death. Oh I just don't know now. Either way, as I kept saying, people complaining about a certain, erm, "culture" are out of line. Nearly everyone gets invited back sooner or later. |
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on May 9, 2024 19:19:43 GMT -5
I will never ever forget Jay Lethal going to put Ric on the corner for a superplex, but then changing his mind and just doing a normal suplex after realizing "oh I'm going to be a murderer if I do this" Then he truly would have been Jay LETHAL |
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Post by fortknox on May 9, 2024 20:46:03 GMT -5
Ric Flair: During the match I had a heart attack ack, ack, ack, ack, ack. You oughta know by now.
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Post by eudypfohl on May 9, 2024 22:10:27 GMT -5
I almost think part of Flair was kind of hoping to go out like this, in the ring
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on May 10, 2024 10:05:18 GMT -5
Nicholas Dickhead.
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XIII
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by XIII on May 10, 2024 10:07:53 GMT -5
From being the best ever to getting kicked out of Piesanos Pizza…the (Neverending) Ric Flair story.
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Post by doinkmark on May 11, 2024 12:39:59 GMT -5
Who knows if he's lying, but this is still a good time to remind everyone that every single person involved in Flair's last match sucks for allowing it to happen Maybe, but they probably agreed to it precisely because they knew that they could rein him in and keep him from dying. Like the episode of Quantum Leap with Terry Funk where Scott Bakula wouldn’t tag out because as soon as he tags in his partner was going to have a heart attack and die. lol Face it Flair was going to be in there with someone and if he was in a singles match with some nobody he’s going to do anything that he wants and probably die in there. They originally wanted 1 on 1 vs Ricky Steamboat. Can you imagine? |
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Knew what the hell that thing was supposed to be
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 12, 2024 0:05:02 GMT -5
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 12, 2024 2:42:01 GMT -5
People mock the idea of athletic commissions governing wrestling, well, this is why, in theory, they should. Flair had no business being in the ring and no doctor worth a damn would have cleared him. His last match should have been twenty years ago and even then it would have been pushing it.
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XIII
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by XIII on May 12, 2024 5:12:57 GMT -5
People mock the idea of athletic commissions governing wrestling, well, this is why, in theory, they should. Flair had no business being in the ring and no doctor worth a damn would have cleared him. His last match should have been twenty years ago and even then it would have been pushing it. Problem is that all throughout history Athletic Commissions only existed to squeeze money from the promotions. Bribery was rampant and it was always a “pay to play” situation and never a health of the athletes situation. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 12, 2024 7:03:02 GMT -5
I almost think part of Flair was kind of hoping to go out like this, in the ring I think this absolutely is what he wants to do. He cannot handle living a normal life. He started wrestling young, and a long time ago - did he ever do a normal job? Was he ever not on the road? He's possibly one of the most broken-by-celebrity people I've ever seen that didn't just... end up already dead somehow before reaching his age. If he doesn't die in the ring, he'll have to just *stop* long enough to die out of it, and I just don't believe he is capable of that. |
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Post by hyperstorm on May 14, 2024 1:24:48 GMT -5
I almost think part of Flair was kind of hoping to go out like this, in the ring I think this absolutely is what he wants to do. He cannot handle living a normal life. He started wrestling young, and a long time ago - did he ever do a normal job? Was he ever not on the road? He's possibly one of the most broken-by-celebrity people I've ever seen that didn't just... end up already dead somehow before reaching his age. If he doesn't die in the ring, he'll have to just *stop* long enough to die out of it, and I just don't believe he is capable of that. IIRC the only times Flair had any regular jobs was the brief time between him dropping out of the University of Minnesota and becoming a wrestler, he was briefly an insurance salesman and also worked as a bouncer at a nightclub. |
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Post by THE FVNKER on May 14, 2024 6:57:08 GMT -5
I almost think part of Flair was kind of hoping to go out like this, in the ring I think this absolutely is what he wants to do. He cannot handle living a normal life. He started wrestling young, and a long time ago - did he ever do a normal job? Was he ever not on the road? He's possibly one of the most broken-by-celebrity people I've ever seen that didn't just... end up already dead somehow before reaching his age. If he doesn't die in the ring, he'll have to just *stop* long enough to die out of it, and I just don't believe he is capable of that. He’s burned up his good will with most fans and friends but I just can’t help but feel sorry for him at this point. As I said earlier, he’s had troubles in just about every aspect of life. Financial, marriages, parenting.. the one thing he was amazing at was wrestling. And he was one of the best to ever do it. It’s got to be hard to reconcile that the one thing you were the best at is something you simply cannot do anymore. It’s something we’ll all face one way or another I suppose. It’s just sad to me. I wish he could find fulfillment in something else. He should’ve been hired as an agent, producer or promo coach in a prominent position after his match with Shawn. Maybe that would’ve given him some direction and goals to reach. |
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Post by Sephiroth on May 14, 2024 7:37:40 GMT -5
I almost think part of Flair was kind of hoping to go out like this, in the ring I think this absolutely is what he wants to do. He cannot handle living a normal life. He started wrestling young, and a long time ago - did he ever do a normal job? Was he ever not on the road? He's possibly one of the most broken-by-celebrity people I've ever seen that didn't just... end up already dead somehow before reaching his age. If he doesn't die in the ring, he'll have to just *stop* long enough to die out of it, and I just don't believe he is capable of that. IMO-he never got over losing Reid. He’s jiffy bern circling the drain ever since. Correct me if I’m wrong, he doesn’t even hear from Charlotte or David that much, his antics got to be too much even for them. |
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Post by James Fabiano on May 14, 2024 8:08:21 GMT -5
Maybe, but they probably agreed to it precisely because they knew that they could rein him in and keep him from dying. Like the episode of Quantum Leap with Terry Funk where Scott Bakula wouldn’t tag out because as soon as he tags in his partner was going to have a heart attack and die. lol Face it Flair was going to be in there with someone and if he was in a singles match with some nobody he’s going to do anything that he wants and probably die in there. They originally wanted 1 on 1 vs Ricky Steamboat. Can you imagine? Two, two, two memories ruined in one! Wrestling fans can't have nice things, not even untouched childhood memories. On another note, and I think someone beat me to this, but what the hey... Commissioner, shine the Diamond Cutter Signal. |
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