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Post by willywonka666 on May 21, 2024 6:24:57 GMT -5
My favorite part was the undersea world we saw at the beginning. I don't recall much except all the hype for Darth Maul-people dressing like him and everything and well, we know how that turned out.
I'm not sure I need to see it again, but I didn't have a problem with it or the others.
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Post by Andee9001 on May 21, 2024 6:43:28 GMT -5
I loved it when i was a kid. I watched it a few weeks back and it may be nostalgia but i still enjoyed it. I watched Episode 2 as well and i found it so boring. Episode 1 at least held my attention. Don't get me wrong it was far from perfect and a lot of shit and fart jokes and Jar Jar in general were definately lowlights. I still love Qui Gon. I loved just how chilled he is the entire way through despite being a warrior. The final battle sequence is still pretty cool.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on May 21, 2024 9:11:14 GMT -5
Loved it as a kid, now when I rewatch it I recognise it's very flawed (mainly with the terrible dialogue and bad comedy) but there is a solid movie in there. Give it an editor to tighten it up and spruce up the dialogue etc.
Qui Gon is awesome. I like that he occasionally sticks a toe over the line (trying to fob Watto off with worthless credits for example)
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Post by thegreatnodnarb on May 21, 2024 9:28:28 GMT -5
I really loved the Pepsi/Mountain Dew campaign where you tried to collect all the different people on the cans. As for the movie, the John Williams score is good. I like Qui-Gon but I have a feeling that's more because of EU material than the Phantom Menace. Darth Maul looks cool but he's another character that benefits from EU material. Obi-Wan sits around the ship and complains a lot until he's needed for the end of the movie. Movie almost feels inconsequential like you could tweak a few lines in Episode 2 and this movie wouldn't even be needed.
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 21, 2024 9:58:10 GMT -5
Just watched it again. It's a bad movie. In large part because plot has never been a strength of Lucas'. The goofy stuff with Jar Jar & The Battle Droids doesn't annoy me like it did back in 99, I can see the appeal of it to kids. The dialog is awful, I'm still not sure who the protagonist is and the political interplay is laughably simplistic.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 21, 2024 10:07:38 GMT -5
I enjoyed it overall but was slightly disappointed.
To be honest, the movie needed to be lengthened a bit to add 30-60 seconds worth of various characters’ reactions to galactic politics here and there throughout the film, as dull as some people found the politics. The issue was that there was never enough context given. Showing Qui-Gon and various side characters from Naboo, Tatooine, and Coruscant showing distain for Valorum and the senate would have made the vote of no contest in Valorum seem natural and would explain why there was a separatist movement in the next too films.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on May 21, 2024 11:23:09 GMT -5
It's not the worst thing to happen to Star Wars but yeah for the time it was a massive letdown and I get why there's so much hate behind it. I think the movie if it was a stand alone thing would have been at least decent, but having the Star Wars name especially back then meant there was a very high expectation and it just feel short of it. A disappointing movie doesn't always mean the movie is garbage to me, just didn't meet the massive hype. I think it's a fun little nostalgia trip looking back and the Pod Racing stuff I thought was cool as a kid. It's a decent 5/10 movie to me.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 21, 2024 12:30:26 GMT -5
It's not the worst thing to happen to Star Wars but yeah for the time it was a massive letdown and I get why there's so much hate behind it. I think the movie if it was a stand alone thing would have been at least decent, but having the Star Wars name especially back then meant there was a very high expectation and it just feel short of it. A disappointing movie doesn't always mean the movie is garbage to me, just didn't meet the massive hype. I think it's a fun little nostalgia trip looking back and the Pod Racing stuff I thought was cool as a kid. It's a decent 5/10 movie to me. it's also pretty much the last time George Lucas used a lot of really good practical effects... and one terrible Yoda puppet >_> it really needed someone to go through the script and say things like "George no one cares about parliamentary procedure"
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 21, 2024 13:49:41 GMT -5
It's not the worst thing to happen to Star Wars but yeah for the time it was a massive letdown and I get why there's so much hate behind it. I think the movie if it was a stand alone thing would have been at least decent, but having the Star Wars name especially back then meant there was a very high expectation and it just feel short of it. A disappointing movie doesn't always mean the movie is garbage to me, just didn't meet the massive hype. I think it's a fun little nostalgia trip looking back and the Pod Racing stuff I thought was cool as a kid. It's a decent 5/10 movie to me. it's also pretty much the last time George Lucas used a lot of really good practical effects... and one terrible Yoda puppet >_> it really needed someone to go through the script and say things like "George no one cares about parliamentary procedure" They do, well not procedure, but how the politics of the Republic's failures lead the the Empire. Look at how the politics wsd
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 21, 2024 13:50:27 GMT -5
It's not the worst thing to happen to Star Wars but yeah for the time it was a massive letdown and I get why there's so much hate behind it. I think the movie if it was a stand alone thing would have been at least decent, but having the Star Wars name especially back then meant there was a very high expectation and it just feel short of it. A disappointing movie doesn't always mean the movie is garbage to me, just didn't meet the massive hype. I think it's a fun little nostalgia trip looking back and the Pod Racing stuff I thought was cool as a kid. It's a decent 5/10 movie to me. it's also pretty much the last time George Lucas used a lot of really good practical effects... and one terrible Yoda puppet >_> it really needed someone to go through the script and say things like "George no one cares about parliamentary procedure" The political angle could have been interesting, like it was in Andor. Lucas just wasn't the right guy to write and direct that material.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 21, 2024 13:55:06 GMT -5
I watched it when I was very young but I enjoyed it and it will always have a soft spot with me. That's also when my family started getting Star Wars Lego sets and I was hooked.
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Post by James Fabiano on May 21, 2024 14:55:58 GMT -5
As for my feelings...well, I made a comment about the maligned last season of Coupling: despite the critics, and I did see and hear them, I wanted to be optimistic, I wanted to like the movie. It was friggin' Star Wars.
I haven't really watched it since I originally saw it then. I guess it has some good qualities too, but yeah, the bloom was sadly off the rose, and this was when I knew Star Wars wasn't the fail proof entity it once was. I remember liking AOTC a bit more, yet by the time of ROTS I was ready to feel negative about it. Word of mouth again did that to me a bit.
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Post by James Fabiano on May 21, 2024 14:58:48 GMT -5
Hayden Christensen gets criticized for his acting in the prequels, but Laurence f***ing Olivier couldn't make "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." work as a line. Some of the dialogue in the prequels makes me wonder if Lucas has ever actually had a conversation with another human being. And the George Lucas/Vince McMahon similarities list continues to this day. And now, food for thought: 1) What would a Lucas/Vince "conversation" be like? 2) If we got 2010s/2020s Vince and 2020s Triple H rescuing us from it, what would the equivalent to Disney taking over from 90s/2000s Lucas be like? I have a feeling it would be like swapping '10s/'20s Vince for 2024 Tony Khan ;-)
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Post by Kalmia on May 21, 2024 15:04:07 GMT -5
I remember seeing this (and all of the prequels) in its opening weekend. I basically feel the same about it now as I did then - it's just a really average movie. The pod racing is fun and I think it has the best lightsaber fight scene in the series but that's about it.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 21, 2024 15:06:45 GMT -5
I watched it on Sunday to see if it really was as bad as I remembered.
Verdict: It's slightly less terrible than I remember but it's still bad
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on May 21, 2024 15:35:03 GMT -5
This movie has BRIAN BLESSED starring as Boss Nass. That automatically make it the best movie ever. Anyone who says it sucks is objectively wrong.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 21, 2024 17:12:19 GMT -5
This movie has BRIAN BLESSED starring as Boss Nass. That automatically make it the best movie ever. Anyone who says it sucks is objectively wrong. Flash Gordon has BRIAN BLESSED in the flesh, looking like THIS: Prince Vultan > late-'90s CGI monstrosity.
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Post by Stone Cold Eleanor Shellstrop on May 21, 2024 17:25:04 GMT -5
There's a good story lurking within this not good movie. The timeliness of the prequels' themes remain prescient even though the movies themselves are lackluster.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 21, 2024 18:35:52 GMT -5
There's a good story lurking within this not good movie. The timeliness of the prequels' themes remain prescient even though the movies themselves are lackluster. Yeah, as I hve said before the Prequels have a pretty coherent story just told terribly.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 21, 2024 18:38:58 GMT -5
it's also pretty much the last time George Lucas used a lot of really good practical effects... and one terrible Yoda puppet >_> it really needed someone to go through the script and say things like "George no one cares about parliamentary procedure" They do, well not procedure, but how the politics of the Republic's failures lead the the Empire. Look at how the politics wsd Specifically the trade regulations and parliamentary procedure stuff is right out of the old Serials that George based Star Wars on. the difference is those serials had about 20 bucks and a roll of tin foil for a budget, so having an episode or two being a bunch of old guys sitting at a table arguing about such things was there for an exposition dump to save money. Star Wars the billion dollar franchise really didn't need them. Also personally I always felt a lot of the politics of Andor was weird when you stopped and remembered the person in charge of all of it was an Angry space wizard
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