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Post by Smokey McTrees on May 5, 2007 13:07:27 GMT -5
Agreed about the baby thing. But at least they LEFT. I've been in places where the parents just sit there oblivious to their screechling, until some other patron *COUGHme*COUGH* kicks the hell outta the parents seat back and mutters something about a "damned screaming kid". People in theaters these days just don't give a rat's ass about the comfort of others. Nope, sure don't...there was a lot of immature giggling at my showing too. Bunch of kids who were pretty early in high school when I was leaving it...reminded me of exactly why I don't miss high school. But in any case, the film was great. And swamp, dude...calm down. Wow. I can't, man. I want to discuss this but I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen it. But it's such a limp-wristed, contrived story that I was stunned. I just saw a review tha tmentioned Topher Grace being a good Spider-Man, and I would agree.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on May 5, 2007 13:10:30 GMT -5
Nope, sure don't...there was a lot of immature giggling at my showing too. Bunch of kids who were pretty early in high school when I was leaving it...reminded me of exactly why I don't miss high school. But in any case, the film was great. And swamp, dude...calm down. Wow. I can't, man. I want to discuss this but I don't want to spoil it for anybody who hasn't seen it. But it's such a limp-wristed, contrived story that I was stunned. I just saw a review tha tmentioned Topher Grace being a good Spider-Man, and I would agree. I dunno, I just wasn't upset by the movie at all. I thought it was very well done. It wasn't quite as good as 2, but I thought it was great, regardless. Ah well, to each his own. I'm not upset that you don't like the movie...you just seemed to lose it there for a sec
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Post by Brickstone Kid on May 5, 2007 13:22:36 GMT -5
SORTA SPOILERY, BUT NOT TOO MUCH... Wow. It was unbelievable. What a terrible film. I found it hard to believe Sam Raimi directed it. It seemed more like it was directed by Paul Anderson or Jan Debont. And its funny, 'cause most of the negative reviews focus on the "Too crowded plot" syndrome but I disagree. The story just meaders in parts, with the silliest, most frustrating exposition I have seen. Thanks, Harry's Butler, for the plot device-spewing info you could have given me THREE YEARS AGO. Wow, did Ruby-Spears write the story? Let's have a main character get amnesia. Nobody thought was contrived 30 years when it was used in every episode of Scooby Doo. Even better, let's have the character get all scarred and menacing, like the Phantom of the Opera! Scary! And for the icing on the Spider-Cake, let's have an overall denouement of the whole story arc that defeats the whole purpose of Stan Lee's original work. And give it away in the trailers. And involve the Sandman, a solid but truly second-rate villian that was nothing but an ordinary thug in the original stories. I mean Sandman's character arc negates the whole concept of Spidey and his guilt. "Great Power Comes Great Responsibilty" anyone? And its ok to be a sociopath if your daughter is dying? Thanks, Sam. It is SO CLEAR TO ME NOW. Venom was rushed and under-developed, and not because of too much Sandman, but because the movie spent twenty minutes on goofy montages, bar skits, and Kirsten Dunst's awful singing. Did she take a voluntary pay cut so she could sing not once, but twice? Ok, Kirsten, I can chalk up my disdain for your flat rack and crooked teeth due to my sexism and immaturity, but I cannot excuse the singing. Topher Grace is not a bad actor, but he was a wise-ass cliche who looked like the least scariest Venom you could find, because he is simply so skinny. Venom is supposed to be pumped-up, insane obsessive, not a wise-cracking second-rate horror villian. I kept waiting for Red to come in full Clarence Boddicker mode and put his foot in Topher's skinny little ass. I understood the need for the relationship building, but why do it so poorly? Why have potential relationship develop between a villian and the girl, then destroy it with a quick act of violence? One that makes no sense because a true crafty villian would have naturally devloped the relationship to make the other jealous. Why bother putting Gwen Stacey in the movie? She is so far-removed from the concept of what she was in Peter's life that it was a waste of time to put her in except to make MJ jealous. Great. Why were there so many extreme closeups on Tobey McGuire's face? I kept counting his moles from boredom because his quivery face swallowed the big screen. Can't you ever wear the damn mask? Spider-Man the hero was very weak this time around. Did he even have spider-sense? It just didn't feel like Spider-Man. Yeah, there were things I liked. JK Simmons is the most literal, believable and amazing representation of JJJ I could ever hope for. He is amazing. And Franco has a great style about him despite his poorly written character. He looks so much like William Dafoe in parts its great. A testament to his acting. And Bruce Campbell steals everything he's in. And Stan the Man. 'Nuff said about that one! TO sum it all up, The movie really pissed me off, because it was a ripoff, a lazy piece of poor writing that was directed by-the-numbers by an obviously bored Sami Raimi. It's like he was sick of Spider-Man and wanted to crap this piece of trash out so he could forget about the whole thing. Well, dude, if you wanted to move on, ya shoulda made something the fans won't nag you about for the rest of your life. Haha....agreed about Harry's butler. That came way out of left field.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on May 5, 2007 14:43:23 GMT -5
I think the butler thing was in a way a nod to the comics. How MJ and may knew Pete was Spider-man but let him keep his secret. I mean how hard would it be to not figure out? I think that was all wink and nod there.
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Post by heffer111 on May 5, 2007 15:16:43 GMT -5
i loved your father, harry........ and i love you.
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Post by shiranui on May 5, 2007 15:31:30 GMT -5
On a sort of (but not quite) related note... is it just me or does the Green Goblin in the first Spider-Man film look more like a green Jet Jaguar than himself? I've seen the film several times but just now noticed the similarity.
As for Spider-Man 3, I saw it last night and liked it for the most part. Sure, there were things that could have been done better (such as the execution of Venom, he was a pretty big disappointment and could easily have been saved for the next film, as there were enough villains as is) but I was entertained throughout the whole thing. Well, except when Kirsten Dunst sang. That was bad. Peter basically becoming The Mask was pretty out-of-character even if it was due to the symbiote's influence (I didn't know the symbiote influenced people to participate in silly dance scenes), but it was so stupidly funny to watch that I couldn't help but enjoy it.
And Bruce Campbell absolutely rules. That's all.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on May 5, 2007 15:36:18 GMT -5
On a sort of (but not quite) related note... is it just me or does the Green Goblin in the first Spider-Man film look more like a green Jet Jaguar than himself? I've seen the film several times but just now noticed the similarity. As for Spider-Man 3, I saw it last night and liked it for the most part. Sure, there were things that could have been done better (such as the execution of Venom, he was a pretty big disappointment and could easily have been saved for the next film, as there were enough villains as is) but I was entertained throughout the whole thing. Well, except when Kirsten Dunst sang. That was bad. Peter basically becoming The Mask was pretty out-of-character even if it was due to the symbiote's influence (I didn't know the symbiote influenced people to participate in silly dance scenes), but it was so stupidly funny to watch that I couldn't help but enjoy it. And Bruce Campbell absolutely rules. That's all. I guess I'm the only one who enjoyed her singing? If that is indeed her voice, it's very soulful.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 5, 2007 15:37:17 GMT -5
I remember about four or five people in the cinema laughing at the "i loved your father Harry...." bit, we all sort of looked around uncomfortably and realised we were being VERY IMMATURE!
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Post by Phosphor Glow on May 5, 2007 15:42:36 GMT -5
I remember about four or five people in the cinema laughing at the "i loved your father Harry....2 bit, we all sort of looked around uncomfortably and realised we were being VERY IMMATURE! Yeah, it was the same way with mine. There were a lot of immature people at the showing.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on May 5, 2007 15:44:46 GMT -5
I saw it at a pretty smart upmarket Cinema so i was suprised so many of us laughed.
If it's any consolation i was instantly regretting it.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on May 5, 2007 15:47:18 GMT -5
I saw it at a pretty smart upmarket Cinema so i was suprised so many of us laughed. If it's any consolation i was instantly regretting it. Ehh, mine was at the only theatre in my town, and my town is filled with a lot of idiots, so I wasn't surprised at all. It was still stupid though.
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Post by Smokey McTrees on May 5, 2007 16:00:35 GMT -5
There were entertaining scenes. The birth of Sandman was almost as cool as birth of Dr. Octopus, although in a radically different way. J. K. Simmons needs more work, stat. James Franco is a good actor. But the stuff going on in the plot was more ridiculous then anything Lee or Gerry Conway produced in the 60's. Sorry I lost it, I am just shocked at how much I don't like it.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on May 5, 2007 16:07:33 GMT -5
I remember about four or five people in the cinema laughing at the "i loved your father Harry...." bit, we all sort of looked around uncomfortably and realised we were being VERY IMMATURE! I really expected laughs there, but we didn't get them. I was shocked. We had a minimum of 4 screens showing the movie here at the midnighterSO it was a mixed crowd. When I saw 2, it was almost all hardcore Spidey fans, it was pretty awesome.
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Post by The Line on May 5, 2007 16:11:23 GMT -5
I saw the Midnight showing. was radass
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Post by heffer111 on May 5, 2007 16:17:42 GMT -5
only 4 people? our whole theatre was laughing at how patheticly delivered that line was at the midnight showing... just like any closeup of spidey crying and his lip quivering, we all laughed for how stupid this all was
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Post by Phosphor Glow on May 5, 2007 16:19:53 GMT -5
only 4 people? our whole theatre was laughing at how patheticly delivered that line was at the midnight showing... just like any closeup of spidey crying and his lip quivering, we all laughed for how stupid this all was Eh, if you say so.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on May 5, 2007 16:21:47 GMT -5
Sounds like you are just trying to convince yourself that it wasn't up to snuff. Whatever, dude, we get it.
I personally loved it and nothing you can say will change that.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on May 5, 2007 16:24:25 GMT -5
Sounds like you are just trying to convince yourself that it wasn't up to snuff. Whatever, dude, we get it. I personally loved it and nothing you can say will change that. Ditto. I absolutely adored the movie and I could care less what anyone else thinks.
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Post by heffer111 on May 5, 2007 18:33:26 GMT -5
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Post by Shy Guy on May 5, 2007 18:40:07 GMT -5
emo spidey was completely unnecessary. and kirsten dunst ALMOST singing fever wanted me to throw up.
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