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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 31, 2007 11:47:30 GMT -5
I can honestly, and proudly, say that I never liked him. Ever. Not from day one. For years now, I've said he's a shorter Sid. That his mic skills were suspect at best ("I'm gonna kick the devil's ass!" Ooh, real witty comeback, Dave.). For years, I've said he's an over-rated, over-pushed, over-hyped lunk, totally undeserving of his push. It's sweet to be right, finally. Jed Shaffer ~If everyone would just listen to me ... Ahh come on that's a bit harsh.............on Sid.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jan 31, 2007 11:48:09 GMT -5
I'll admit that I bought into Batista-mania at first, because his feud with HHH was really well booked, and it helped hide his weaknesses as a worker and promo guy. Now, though, he's so uninspiring that I've gone on record as calling him the worst champ WWE's had in recent history.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Jan 31, 2007 11:49:34 GMT -5
But without a hot feud with a damn good (pun intended) Superstar, he's nothing more than an uberpushed Warlord... I mark for Warlord references. ;D
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Post by lechuck on Jan 31, 2007 12:05:12 GMT -5
"The Animal" Dave Batista is an amazing champion. He has the look, the charisma, the power, the intensity, the fire, the passion I could go on.
he is a massive draw and Smackdown's ratings have increaded massivley since he won the title (after Booker and Rey buried the show).
Most fans appreciate his no-nonsense power squash style; big men squashing people will always be over.
In short what is not to like about Batista?
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Jan 31, 2007 12:10:43 GMT -5
"The Animal" Dave Batista is an amazing champion. He has the look, the charisma, the power, the intensity, the fire, the passion I could go on. he is a massive draw and Smackdown's ratings have increaded massivley since he won the title (after Booker and Rey buried the show). Most fans appreciate his no-nonsense power squash style; big men squashing people will always be over. In short what is not to like about Batista? But the real test of someone's ability to draw: is he huggable?
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Post by MGH on Jan 31, 2007 12:12:19 GMT -5
"The Animal" Dave Batista is an amazing champion. He has the look, the charisma, the power, the intensity, the fire, the passion I could go on. he is a massive draw and Smackdown's ratings have increaded massivley since he won the title (after Booker and Rey buried the show). Most fans appreciate his no-nonsense power squash style; big men squashing people will always be over. In short what is not to like about Batista? But the real test of someone's ability to draw: is he huggable? I think we found Warriorthug's brother.
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Jan 31, 2007 12:13:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't exactly say that. They've gone up a little bit, but not dramatically.
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Post by lechuck on Jan 31, 2007 12:31:47 GMT -5
Look at the average rating of the title reigns-
Rey = 2.39 Booker - 2.25 BATISTA = 2.7
It seems the TRUE fans are returning to Smackdown!
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Jan 31, 2007 12:38:22 GMT -5
Look at the average rating of the title reigns- Rey = 2.39 Booker - 2.25 BATISTA = 2.7It seems the TRUE fans are returning to Smackdown! And of course, each and every one of those people are tuning in to see Batista make his 10-minute appearances, right? It has nothing to do with Londrick, Booker, Benoit, Kane, Kennedy, Undertaker ... it's all Batista, huh? What color is the sky in your world?
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Post by Desi on Jan 31, 2007 12:41:44 GMT -5
While fans can feel however they want about Batista, I just find it ridiculous to call the death of his push/career when it's obvious that he's still very over with the majority of the audience.
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Post by Mr Captain Falcon on Jan 31, 2007 12:48:36 GMT -5
When Batista first showed up, I never expected him to do a whole lot other than be Reverend Dvons bodyguard. He had no mic skills, no personality, kinda reminded me of Bull Buchanan, except I feel that Bull was highly underrated. But I did't expect him to last long, maybe a few months on Smackdown where they'd build him up and go into a feud with a former world champion if not THE world champion (this was back in 2002-2003) so maybe Angle, Lesnar, Taker, or Big Show, and they'd just kill him like Cena did to Umaga, and all his steam would be gone and so would he soonafter. But somehow he's still here.
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Post by lechuck on Jan 31, 2007 12:53:13 GMT -5
And of course, each and every one of those people are tuning in to see Batista make his 10-minute appearances, right? It has nothing to do with Londrick, Booker, Benoit, Kane, Kennedy, Undertaker ... it's all Batista, huh? What color is the sky in your world? Those guys were there during Rey and Booker's reigns when everyone was tuning out. www.prowrestling.com/article/news/2985
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Post by robferatu on Jan 31, 2007 13:03:49 GMT -5
And of course, each and every one of those people are tuning in to see Batista make his 10-minute appearances, right? It has nothing to do with Londrick, Booker, Benoit, Kane, Kennedy, Undertaker ... it's all Batista, huh? What color is the sky in your world? Those guys were there during Rey and Booker's reigns when everyone was tuning out. www.prowrestling.com/article/news/2985I don't think you can give all credit to Batista for the ratings, because before he was injured the ratings where still in the low 2's. I'm not saying some credit is his, but alot credit should be accounted to The Undertaker as well, especially now that he's on a full-time schedule appearing on every Smackdown.
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Post by oltrelamorte on Jan 31, 2007 13:09:22 GMT -5
He'll be remembered as the memorable character, Deacon Batista.
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Post by STMP on Jan 31, 2007 13:14:22 GMT -5
And of course, each and every one of those people are tuning in to see Batista make his 10-minute appearances, right? It has nothing to do with Londrick, Booker, Benoit, Kane, Kennedy, Undertaker ... it's all Batista, huh? What color is the sky in your world? Those guys were there during Rey and Booker's reigns when everyone was tuning out. www.prowrestling.com/article/news/2985Ehm doofus. That quote says that the office thinks Batista is carrying Smackdown. The same office who has hired swimsuit models to get ratings up. If there is one thing really obvious that people can agree on it is that the WWE office doesn't really know how to reach the fans. They try tons of different things but don't seem to get what the audience wants. But back on topic. Evolution carried Batista. He has always been protected by HHH (talent), Flair (charisma) and Orton (potential). Batista was the strong guy who got over by accident. And when he left Evolution and was done feuding with Triple H. He was just there without doing much. Even in his feuds he showed enormous weaknesses. Then he got injured, as usual. He came back and wasn't the same anymore. Now he's just hanging around. He's just there. I don't think people will really remember him and definately not the same way they remember Goldberg or Sid. Who were guys with flaws but have always been able to at least keep their intensity.
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Post by STMP on Jan 31, 2007 13:16:53 GMT -5
I don't think you can give all credit to Batista for the ratings, because before he was injured the ratings where still in the low 2's. I'm not saying some credit is his, but alot credit should be accounted to The Undertaker as well, especially now that he's on a full-time schedule appearing on every Smackdown. The credit Batista will get is that Smackdown was really low on main event talent and he was a returning wrestler. That is always exciting and will get the ratings up. Batista's return looked to be a change, the same way the ratings went up when Edge won the belt from Cena. The fans wanted something different and tuned in to get that. It doesn't have much to do with Batista and the same thing will happen when HHH returns from his injury.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2007 15:15:44 GMT -5
During the tail end of Bookers reign was when UPN was switching over to the CW and a lot of stations weren't showing Smackdown. That's why his ratings were so low.
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Post by Bobafett on Jan 31, 2007 15:41:34 GMT -5
To me at least Cena has potential with being young and his matches arent horrible and if they are it is not his fault it's booking and I don't like the "aww..shucks" Marine gimmick. As Batista goes I feel he is done! He's about as old as HBK and has no future! He's 40 and is just horrible! I feel he will not be seen as a very good champion and will not be looked as someone who contributed much at all. I feel it would be better to build Kennedy, MVP, Miz and Matt Hardy and others than concentrating on a guy who could seriously break down at any time! I'd rather Mark Henry than Batista! I dunno why but Cena saluting n stuff ..just doesn't look or feel right I think Kennedy could be the real deal after the rumbleand I felt JBL's commentry really built him up as a guy who would do everything to win, is it just me though or was Kennedys going for the leg all the time reminisint of the Eddie vs Lesnar match at no way out 2004 the way he kept going for the injured knee
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Post by ronsimmons on Jan 31, 2007 15:45:57 GMT -5
I've been a Batista mark since late 04. Period.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 31, 2007 15:49:03 GMT -5
I did like Batista for a short time.....however, after the injury...he never got back to that form.
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