So why is Chavo doing the FrogSplash Disrespectful

[Eunös ✈]

Michael Cole really does need to STFU.

Before Chavo turned heel it was seen as a Tribute to his Late Uncle

Suddenly now that he is a Heel it is Disrespectful?, That also includes the 3 Amigo's. What a Dickhead

I suppose every time Eddie pulled of a Frog Splash that was disrespectful to Art Barr right?

(Que the Disrespectful jokes ¬¬)

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Because Michael Cole is a dipshit.

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jinxed said:

Because Michael Cole is a dipcrap.

LISTEN, f***head....



But it's a double-standard kind of thing.

[Harmonica]

eunos said:

Michael Cole really does need to STFU.

Before Chavo turned heel it was seen as a Tribute to his Late Uncle

Suddenly now that he is a Heel it is Disrespectful?, That also includes the 3 Amigo's. What a Dickhead

I suppose every time Eddie pulled of a Frog Splash that was disrespectful to Art Barr right?

(Que the Disrespectful jokes ¬¬)

I don't get it, same thing i was wondering when he did frog splash at No Way Out and cole shitting all over it

[careless]

I'd say only because he simply cannot hit it like Uncle Eddie. If you're gonna hit someone's spot damnit, hit it!

[Loki]

If a face does something, it's cool

If a heel does the exact same thing it's disrespectful, heinous etc...

Kayfabe at its best.

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I keep wondering how wrestling historian JBL doesn't know/doesn't mention that Art Barr invented the Frog Splah and Eddy does it in tribute to him.

[AriadosMan]

Didn't WWE claim at one time that Eddie invented the frog splash?
That's more disrespectful than having Chavo do the spot.

[Harmonica]

realfakerazor said:

Didn't WWE claim at one time that Eddie invented the frog splash?
That's more disrespectful than having Chavo do the spot.

I think Cole said that two weeks ago on smackdown

[MGH]

Stuff like this is why I wish more announcers were like JBL. You can tell he has heel bias, but he stays pretty neutral. Michael Cole .... god he just sucks. Kudos for trying to work through No Way Out, but man he's annoying.

*2 months earlier* DAMN IT JOHN, BOOKER STOLE THAT DAMN MATCH. HE CHEATED TO RETAIN THE TITLE.

*Batista does it at Survivor Series* Batista just did what he had to do John!

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jmontoya9189 said:

realfakerazor said:

Didn't WWE claim at one time that Eddie invented the frog splash?
That's more disrespectful than having Chavo do the spot.

I think Cole said that two weeks ago on smackdown

Actually it was JBL. He was talking about how the Guerreros invented so many moves (Gory Bomb, Camel Clutch....) and mentioned the Frog Splash as being an Eddy original and that is why its wasn't disrespectful for him to use it.

[Ace Diamond]

Here's why it's disrespectful (kayfabe): Because Chavo Guerrero is a pussbag who quit like a little complain and/or rude female because he couldn't beat Shelton Benjamin, then comes back only so he can act all nice to Rey before betraying him because he doesn't think Rey is a close enough friend to be doing anything in Eddie's name.

Also he may have slept with his aunt.

[Arturo Classico]

aodpilot said:

Here's why it's disrespectful (kayfabe): Because Chavo Guerrero is a pussbag who quit like a little complain and/or rude female because he couldn't beat Shelton Benjamin, then comes back only so he can act all nice to Rey before betraying him because he doesn't think Rey is a close enough friend to be doing anything in Eddie's name.

Also he may have slept with his aunt.

Seriously can't you tell storylines from reality? In all seriousness in non-Kayfabe, If Benoit can do the Three Amigos than so can Chavo. Why not he does it well. Also Chavo doing Guerrero Family Traditional moves is cool by me I don't mind Chavo going Gory Bomb, Gory Special, Three Amigos, Camel Clutch, or even the Frog Splash. Although to be honest Art Barr's Frog Splash was way better than Eddies; It looked more like D-Lo's Low Down. Now was D-Lo disrespectful to Art Barr or now to Eddie?

[Ace Diamond]

kingsofwrestling said:

aodpilot said:

Here's why it's disrespectful (kayfabe): Because Chavo Guerrero is a pussbag who quit like a little complain and/or rude female because he couldn't beat Shelton Benjamin, then comes back only so he can act all nice to Rey before betraying him because he doesn't think Rey is a close enough friend to be doing anything in Eddie's name.

Also he may have slept with his aunt.

Seriously can't you tell storylines from reality? In all seriousness in non-Kayfabe, If Benoit can do the Three Amigos than so can Chavo. Why not he does it well. Also Chavo doing Guerrero Family Traditional moves is cool by me I don't mind Chavo going Gory Bomb, Gory Special, Three Amigos, Camel Clutch, or even the Frog Splash. Although to be honest Art Barr's Frog Splash was way better than Eddies; It looked more like D-Lo's Low Down. Now was D-Lo disrespectful to Art Barr or now to Eddie?

...So you're basically saying that me using the storyline of him quitting, the storyline of him coming back to be all buddy-buddy to Rey, and the storyline of him betraying Rey (which may have been his plan all along), as examples of why kayfabe commentary calling him doing something disrespectful on the kayfabe grounds that he's a kayfabe total snake doesn't cut it for you?

[Arturo Classico]

aodpilot said:

kingsofwrestling said:

Seriously can't you tell storylines from reality? In all seriousness in non-Kayfabe, If Benoit can do the Three Amigos than so can Chavo. Why not he does it well. Also Chavo doing Guerrero Family Traditional moves is cool by me I don't mind Chavo going Gory Bomb, Gory Special, Three Amigos, Camel Clutch, or even the Frog Splash. Although to be honest Art Barr's Frog Splash was way better than Eddies; It looked more like D-Lo's Low Down. Now was D-Lo disrespectful to Art Barr or now to Eddie?

...So you're basically saying that me using the storyline of him quitting, the storyline of him coming back to be all buddy-buddy to Rey, and the storyline of him betraying Rey (which may have been his plan all along), as examples of why kayfabe commentary calling him doing something disrespectful on the grounds that he's a total snake doesn't cut it for you?

In a word? No. Why did they not say that Eddie doing a Frog Splash as a heel was disrespectful to Art Barr. Or look at it this way he is a Guerrero, right? So if anyone should being tributes to him it should be Chavo, plus the ironic thing is Chavo's gimmick now is 100% pure Eddie Guerrero heel. So what they say is just idiotic and any one with a half of a brain can see that.

[Ace Diamond]

kingsofwrestling said:

aodpilot said:

...So you're basically saying that me using the storyline of him quitting, the storyline of him coming back to be all buddy-buddy to Rey, and the storyline of him betraying Rey (which may have been his plan all along), as examples of why kayfabe commentary calling him doing something disrespectful on the grounds that he's a total snake doesn't cut it for you?

In a word? No. Why did they not say that Eddie doing a Frog Splash as a heel was disrespectful to Art Barr. Or look at it this way he is a Guerrero, right? So if anyone should being tributes to him it should be Chavo, plus the ironic thing is Chavo's gimmick now is 100% pure Eddie Guerrero heel. So what they say is just idiotic and any one with a half of a brain can see that.

Yes but I have a full brain and thus am trying to understand it, but apparently my opinion on why it could be construed as disrespectful is wrong. oh wait, opinions can't be wrong.

Also, a lot of the people who watch SmackDown these days may not know who Art Barr even is. Because again, not everybody who watches WWE is on the Internet.

[EJS]

In a word? No. Why did they not say that Eddie doing a Frog Splash as a heel was disrespectful to Art Barr. Or look at it this way he is a Guerrero, right? So if anyone should being tributes to him it should be Chavo, plus the ironic thing is Chavo's gimmick now is 100% pure Eddie Guerrero heel. So what they say is just idiotic and any one with a half of a brain can see that.

Because WWE never had anything to do with Art Barr ever? Cole (kayfabe, storyline, not really, make believe) thinks Chavo is an asshole, based on his actions against Rey Mysterio. That's it. Ok?

[Avalanche Alvarez]

loki said:

If a face does something, it's cool

If a heel does the exact same thing it's disrespectful, heinous etc...

Kayfabe at its best.

And Michael Cole is the kayfabiest!


Lovehead.

[Arturo Classico]

hadesgigas said:

In a word? No. Why did they not say that Eddie doing a Frog Splash as a heel was disrespectful to Art Barr. Or look at it this way he is a Guerrero, right? So if anyone should being tributes to him it should be Chavo, plus the ironic thing is Chavo's gimmick now is 100% pure Eddie Guerrero heel. So what they say is just idiotic and any one with a half of a brain can see that.

Because WWE never had anything to do with Art Barr ever? Cole (kayfabe, storyline, not really, make believe) thinks Chavo is an jerk, based on his actions against Rey Mysterio. That's it. Ok?

I understand that. But seriously slam for being a douchebag, not for using a trademark Guerrero move, Three Amigos were done way before Eddie did them. To me just doing a move is not disrespectful and I'm getting bored with Cole saying that.

[Dynamite Kid]

Chavo is a heel. Therefore Cole, the play-by-play man, puts him down. I can guarantee that JR would be doing the same if the guy was on Raw. Duh.