Is The F-U A good Finisher??

[subject2]

Now ill admit off the front..im one of the many cena character haters out there...i like the guy..and i think hes a decent enough main eventer..good look..but i hate what they've done to his character and made him a cheesy invincible robot!

But althgh i treamin hateful to most things about his current character...one thing i don't get is the hate for the FU.

It seems to get alot of hate on these boards and im not sure why...fair enough it was lame on smackdown..coz he basicslly jus dropped them with no impact..but since been drafted 2 raw over a year ago..the FU has been a solid finisher....i mean it has all the aspects of a finisher people like...it can be hit out of anywhere...and it has ALOT of impact...look at the one on umaga..the ones on edge..they look far more devestating than the rock bottom or angle slam etc

so rather than just hate it coz its about cena..do u giuys act think its a bad move?..what if rather than cena it was given to shelton benjamin or some1 cool?

Thoughts?

[Loki]

Well, it looks like Cena's been trying to improve the impact of the F-U lately, with acceptable results, but the move STILL looks more like a setup one (and apparently it is for the STFU... another nonsensical bit if you ask me but that's another story).

I agree we had weaker/cheesier looking finishers, but most of those were either in a full-kayfabed world or performed by uber-charismatic Superstars, so the move was "sold" and "bought" in a much better way.

[carter 15]

No, but neither was a running leg drop.

[THE Dinobot]

No, but it's better than the old Protoslam.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

He could at least do a proper DVD. Mostly it seems like he's dropping a sack of potatoes. Either that or do a Burning Hammer. Then he'd have something.

[mainsupreme]

I always FU people when I'm drunk only thing I like about the move is how easy it is.
LAme finisher

[odanobunaga]

I´ve seeing this move so much as a regular move in matches(Dude, Michel Serdan does it all the time here in Brazil ) that is pretty hard to beleive that he is "the sickest finisher evah~"

[thesunbeast]

It's never really been about the move, It's always about who's doing the move. Cena is a big, muscular guy who in both real life and kayfabe has alot of strength and intensity. So the perfect move for him would be something simple, but with alot of his intensity added to it. weather It's the FU or not. At the beginning, Cena just did the move, but afterward, he added the spark to It.

One thing that tugs at my nerves a little is that people only look at the moves as they are, and then use that to judge a guy's effort, capability or skill. If Yokozuna's speacial was a legdrop, would It be because a legrop comming from a man that size just looks devistating, or would It only be because that's the best move he could do? Too many people would say now-a-days that "hey, he's not a good worker, his special is a legdrop."

[Funkyjumbo]

Hmm.. maybe Cena just needs to make it a bit more dramatic, get opponent up for F.U. , flip into a Dragon Sleeper, hold on for a few seconds and then finish with an Inverted DDT?

[Cranjis McBasketball]

thesunbeast said:

It's never really been about the move, It's always about who's doing the move. Cena is a big, muscular guy who in both real life and kayfabe has alot of strength and intensity. So the perfect move for him would be something simple, but with alot of his intensity added to it. weather It's the FU or not. At the beginning, Cena just did the move, but afterward, he added the spark to It.

One thing that tugs at my nerves a little is that people only look at the moves as they are, and then use that to judge a guy's effort, capability or skill. If Yokozuna's speacial was a legdrop, would It be because a legrop comming from a man that size just looks devistating, or would It only be because that's the best move he could do? Too many people would say now-a-days that "hey, he's not a good worker, his special is a legdrop."

There's a difference between a 500+ pound guy dropping his leg across your chest, throat and face where Yoko's leg drop always landed and a 200 pound guy throwing you to the mat like a sack of potatoes.

[JoshWoodrumGreaterThanHBK]

The only thing i dont understand.... is that noone seems to hate on Chris Sabin's "Cradle Shock" but its the same damn move!

[thesunbeast]

cdr said:

thesunbeast said:

It's never really been about the move, It's always about who's doing the move. Cena is a big, muscular guy who in both real life and kayfabe has alot of strength and intensity. So the perfect move for him would be something simple, but with alot of his intensity added to it. weather It's the FU or not. At the beginning, Cena just did the move, but afterward, he added the spark to It.

One thing that tugs at my nerves a little is that people only look at the moves as they are, and then use that to judge a guy's effort, capability or skill. If Yokozuna's speacial was a legdrop, would It be because a legrop comming from a man that size just looks devistating, or would It only be because that's the best move he could do? Too many people would say now-a-days that "hey, he's not a good worker, his special is a legdrop."

There's a difference between a 500+ pound guy dropping his leg across your chest, throat and face where Yoko's leg drop always landed and a 200 pound guy throwing you to the mat like a sack of potatoes.

Sure, but It's only looked at as "like a sack of potatoes" by guys like us who know that there isn't any real strengh being driven into the impact. Regular fans look at the move when Cena does it as a strong guy slamming someone down very hard, a smark will see a fireman carry, which is almost the same, buy it's really what a casual fan sees that makes the difference.

If HBK kicks out of the FU at Wrestlemania, a lifetime smark will say "so what." A lifetime casual fan (like my mother) will be extremely surprized, and wonder why HBK isn't in the hospital and retired from wrestling.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Well, I will say this, I buy the FU as a finisher moreso than the STFU.

[thesunbeast]

Well, this may be extremely obvious, but I wonder if anyone understands the profanity inuendo's with the FU and the STFU. We all know what FU means, but STFU means "shut the F*** up." So that's why I think he does the STFU after the FU, It's like he's saying F*** you and shut the F*** up.

I always thought that Cena should keep the FU, but also add the elbow off the top rope, (he could do one). Instead of pointing abouve like Randy Savage before he leaps, he could just do the "word-life" sign.

[emoney3265]

Well first... learn to speak in proper English... at least tolerable English. If you don't know how... Look it up.

And no It's a bad finisher. It is a lame fireman's carry and everyone can do it.

[thesunbeast]

emoney3265 said:

Well first... learn to speak in proper English... at least tolerable English. If you don't know how... Look it up.

And no It's a bad finisher. It is a lame fireman's carry and everyone can do it.

First of all, don't be an ass. If I've mispelled anything or If you don't like the way anyone is speaking or what their opinion is, that's fine. I don't go around insulting anyone else's intelligence, so don't do it either.

[emoney3265]

thesunbeast said:

emoney3265 said:

Well first... learn to speak in proper English... at least tolerable English. If you don't know how... Look it up.

And no It's a bad finisher. It is a lame fireman's carry and everyone can do it.

First of all, don't be an ass. If I've mispelled anything or If you don't like the way anyone is speaking or what their opinion is, that's fine. I don't go around insulting anyone else's intelligence, so don't do it either.

It was said in reference to Matt Striker. It was a joke. Everyone is sarcastic around here so don't us very seriously all the time.

[Joekishi]

One (nothings wrong with me) It gets a reaction from the crowd.

Two (nothings wrong with me) It has looked effective for a long time dropping people in more of a powerslam fashion than just a regular old fireman's carry...not as much impact as the Alabama Slam, but much more effective than the RKO...

Three (SOMETHINGS GOT TO GIVE NOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!) I like the way the victim's body hits the floor.

LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR!

[thesunbeast]

emoney3265 said:

thesunbeast said:

First of all, don't be an ass. If I've mispelled anything or If you don't like the way anyone is speaking or what their opinion is, that's fine. I don't go around insulting anyone else's intelligence, so don't do it either.

It was said in reference to Matt Striker. It was a joke. Everyone is sarcastic around here so don't us very seriously all the time.

I didn't read the username quick enough, If you're not the same one that's been quoting me and making insults all the time, then I apologize. My quote was directed vaugely, as If i was addressing multiple posts, so I apologize for it. I don't relly take most people seriously, it's just that I'm a little used to those sort of comments from the same people recently when their serious. I didn't look this time though, and 99.9% of my posts aren't like that.

[Brain Of F'n J]

joshwoodrum said:

The only thing i dont understand.... is that noone seems to hate on Chris Sabin's "Cradle Shock" but its the same damn move!

F-U: From a fireman's carry, opponent is thrust up and onto his back to the side.

Cradle Shock: From a fireman's carry, opponent is twirled forward, with one leg trapped in a fisherman's hook, driving the opponent down on the upper back/shoulder area.

Not the same. Distant cousins, maybe. But not the same.

Jed Shaffer
~Now, if you'd compared the F-U to Sean O'Haire's Widowmaker ...