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Post by Banned Member on Feb 20, 2007 18:30:20 GMT -5
How is Vince to blame? ECW never had the finances needed to succeed. They tried too hard to become a major promotion over night and dug themselves into a hole and could not get out. Sure ECW was somewhat popular for a little while. But that was due more to the wrestling boom of the 90's. Everything in pro wrestling was more popular. But even at it's peek ECW never had a large following. If anything Vince should be given credit for bringing back ECW. It may not be the ECW of old, but if were to have remained shut down, ECW's tremendous (albeit brief) history would be at risk of being forgotten all together. You forgot to mention HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. The guy has a point, and your response is his trolling of Hogan. Yaaaaa thats not going to anyone any good. |
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Post by Dave FCIC on Feb 20, 2007 18:31:37 GMT -5
How is Vince to blame? ECW never had the finances needed to succeed. They tried too hard to become a major promotion over night and dug themselves into a hole and could not get out. Sure ECW was somewhat popular for a little while. But that was due more to the wrestling boom of the 90's. Everything in pro wrestling was more popular. But even at it's peek ECW never had a large following. If anything Vince should be given credit for bringing back ECW. It may not be the ECW of old, but if were to have remained shut down, ECW's tremendous (albeit brief) history would be at risk of being forgotten all together. You forgot to mention HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. wtf? |
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Post by The Boss on Feb 20, 2007 18:32:22 GMT -5
How is Vince to blame? ECW never had the finances needed to succeed. They tried too hard to become a major promotion over night and dug themselves into a hole and could not get out. Sure ECW was somewhat popular for a little while. But that was due more to the wrestling boom of the 90's. Everything in pro wrestling was more popular. But even at it's peek ECW never had a large following. If anything Vince should be given credit for bringing back ECW. It may not be the ECW of old, but if were to have remained shut down, ECW's tremendous (albeit brief) history would be at risk of being forgotten all together. You forgot to mention HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN was never in ECW. Although when the potential match with Big Show was first announced I had hoped that HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN would win the ECW World title. |
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Post by Branimal on Feb 20, 2007 18:33:04 GMT -5
ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley's match with Kenny Dykstra on RAW two weeks ago lost 670,000 viewers.
I just read this on another site..Is this true? If it is..then Vince, you should start by getting that title off of Lashley.
Although, I'm sure 20-year old Kenny will be to blame.
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Post by The Boss on Feb 20, 2007 18:34:06 GMT -5
You forgot to mention HOLLYWOOD HULK HOGAN. The guy has a point, and your response is his trolling of Hogan. Yaaaaa thats not going to anyone any good. I always make good points. |
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Post by Erik Majorwitz on Feb 20, 2007 18:35:02 GMT -5
Just throw money at it, I hear that usually works.
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Post by mysterydriver on Feb 20, 2007 18:38:43 GMT -5
ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley's match with Kenny Dykstra on RAW two weeks ago lost 670,000 viewers. I just read this on another site..Is this true? If it is..then Vince, you should start by getting that title off of Lashley. Although, I'm sure 20-year old Kenny will be to blame. Maybe they didn't point out how Kenny was only 20 enough. I mean, how can the people at home know how much danger Lashley's title run is in because of the youthful ability and agility of Kenny UNLESS THEY KNOW KENNY IS ONLY 20! Dang it JR! This your fault! You and your stupid Skittle obsession! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2007 18:38:52 GMT -5
ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley's match with Kenny Dykstra on RAW two weeks ago lost 670,000 viewers. I just read this on another site..Is this true? If it is..then Vince, you should start by getting that title off of Lashley. Although, I'm sure 20-year old Kenny will be to blame. Once he turns 21, you KNOW he'll be released. |
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Post by leemir on Feb 20, 2007 18:40:22 GMT -5
ECW looked to have a large following, they were selling out big enough arenas on any PPV I watched.
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Post by darthpipes on Feb 20, 2007 18:51:35 GMT -5
Vince is the reason ECW is failing to begin with. Instead of making it unique, he wants to make it yet another brand. The WWE already has two brands, both of which aren't exactly creatively rich at the moment.
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Post by JMA on Feb 20, 2007 19:16:35 GMT -5
Every time ratings are down Vince tries to fix it by adding more big men. This almost NEVER works.
It doesn't help that Johnny Ace, Stephanie McMahon, and Kevin Dunn are in his ear either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2007 19:19:38 GMT -5
Just let ECW be ECW, get the word out, and watch the ratings rise.
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Post by Michael Coello on Feb 20, 2007 19:21:24 GMT -5
So, will it be time for Fake Lesner vs Fake Kane for the Fake ECW title and a conflict with Fake Randy Orton? |
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Feb 20, 2007 19:21:45 GMT -5
So Vince is going to fix ECW by rehashing some old storylines, putting himself on ECW, and force-feeding a champion to us regardless of whether he's ready or not?
OK!
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 20, 2007 19:38:21 GMT -5
ECW looked to have a large following, they were selling out big enough arenas on any PPV I watched. most of the arena's were not very big, but ECW did sell out a lot of houses. I think what will help this ECW is actually using storylines. Don't go overboard, but almost every week it's a random match that has no meaing. That's one of the reasons D2D had such bad buyrates. The only match they hyped up was the Extreme Elimination Chamber, and no other match was added until the Tuesday before the PPV (MNM vs. Hardyz). That's called poor marketing. I'd also suggest getting another hour and letting ECW tour by itself since te crowds are robably burned out from Smackdown. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2007 19:45:35 GMT -5
Vince: "It's clear what we need to fix ECW, bring up some more roided up OVW hosses! I KNOW WHAT THE FANS REALLY WANT!"
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Post by willywonka666 on Feb 20, 2007 19:46:36 GMT -5
Sci Fi doesn't care if it's good, they accept a 1.0 as a good rating-whatever happened to aiming high?
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Post by salTy on Feb 20, 2007 19:48:05 GMT -5
Isn't Vince the reason ECW is broken? How is Vince to blame? ECW never had the finances needed to succeed. They tried too hard to become a major promotion over night and dug themselves into a hole and could not get out. Sure ECW was somewhat popular for a little while. But that was due more to the wrestling boom of the 90's. Everything in pro wrestling was more popular. But even at it's peek ECW never had a large following. If anything Vince should be given credit for bringing back ECW. It may not be the ECW of old, but if were to have remained shut down, ECW's tremendous (albeit brief) history would be at risk of being forgotten all together. He's talking about current ECW. Vince is to blame for it's failure. |
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Feb 20, 2007 19:50:22 GMT -5
as long as ECW isn't losing money, nothing's going to happen to it. Now if the stockholders or Sci Fi begin to ask questions about income, maybe then something drastic will happen for the sake of 'saving' it. But from the recent conference call, it looks like ECW hit the break even point in December, and as long as they stick to touring with Smackdown, they aren't going to lost money anytime soon.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 20, 2007 20:01:30 GMT -5
I was just thinking, one thing I'm disappointed with is how the new ECW began. The IWC knew Vince was startng a third brand, but the general fans didn't, and WWE never really built up the "rebirth"
I remember Joey Styles' great promo about how he ated being a story teller, and how he was constantly told to ignore the action in the ring. It truely was a great promo that could've started something. Then, RVD came out the next week and said he backed up Joey. What could've been the start of a Revolution, that turned into a feud between WWE and ECW, went cold turkey. RVD then told Cena he was cashing in MITB at ONS, and the ECW originals showe up during the contract signing.
Then one day out of no where, Paul Heyman just said "as you might know, ECW is coming back and it will be on the Sci Fi channel" and he announced Kurt Angle as his Smackdown draft choice.
The next week during the ECW vs. WWE special, Big Show jumped ship for no reason (unless you go on to wwe.com regularly).
What I'm getting at, is WWE dropped the ball with the hype. Had they built a revolution after Joey's comments ECW has got great momentum going into it's debut. Instead, it was jut brushed off as if everybody knew ECW was coming back.
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