Byakugan
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To my peeps and you fools, say it loud and say it proud, Christian rules!
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Post by Byakugan on Jan 10, 2007 15:52:08 GMT -5
So this is the Lasagna appreciation thread right?
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Post by Cousin Judge on Jan 10, 2007 16:03:15 GMT -5
You know people go into the usual "OMFGZZ END OF ECWWECWWCWEECW!!!!" but at the end of the day an 'undefeated streak' can be a chalice around a performers neck. Maybe they didn't want him to have a long unbeaten run and have that as a side issue always lurking over everything he does. For a face to never be beaten it makes no real sense as what the audience will be waiting to see would be if the face will lose. With a heel it's okay cause the crowd can will the face to win and for the streak to end but it's a bit nonsensical to have everyone to wait for the face to lose.
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Post by royboy8 on Jan 10, 2007 16:05:36 GMT -5
More "newz" from a writer just looking for some hits to his site and attention, even though its not true at all. Sigh
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Post by TRUTH TELLER on Jan 10, 2007 16:05:41 GMT -5
Regardless of whether or not it's true, Holly was the wrong guy to have Punk lose to. There is no upside in Holly right now. If Punk was getting no reactions, I'd say they were justified to do whatever they'd want; but he was getting star reactions, and whether you love Punk, or hate Punk, you can't disagree that he was the one true breakout star of ECW in a sea of guys who no one cares about or whom WWE would never push. As much as I would personally hate it, Test beating Punk would have made more sense since they seem to be elevating him to a Championship match. People need to get their head out of their ass when it comes to how they feel about Punk personally, and look at it as purely a business move, since wrestling is a business. There was no value in elevating Holly. The win would be better suited to giving the rub to someone in the position to make the company money in the future.
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Post by MGH on Jan 10, 2007 16:07:15 GMT -5
.....This is all HHH's fault!
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Post by gsguy on Jan 10, 2007 16:11:57 GMT -5
.....This is all HHH's fault! THAT DAMN DX
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 10, 2007 16:13:21 GMT -5
Regardless of whether or not it's true, Holly was the wrong guy to have Punk lose to. There is no upside in Holly right now. If Punk was getting no reactions, I'd say they were justified to do whatever they'd want; but he was getting star reactions, and whether you love Punk, or hate Punk, you can't disagree that he was the one true breakout star of ECW in a sea of guys who no one cares about or whom WWE would never push. As much as I would personally hate it, Test beating Punk would have made more sense since they seem to be elevating him to a Championship match. People need to get their head out of their ass when it comes to how they feel about Punk personally, and look at it as purely a business move, since wrestling is a business. There was no value in elevating Holly. The win would be better suited to giving the rub to someone in the position to make the company money in the future. The loss "gave a rub" to the feud. Now, we can't just say, "Oh Punk wins!" if it is a regular match. I applaud the ECW writers for doing something that was unpredictable. They surprised the audience, and to keep them interested, that is what you have to do.
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Post by Doctor Tull-eus S. Venture on Jan 10, 2007 16:13:55 GMT -5
I think the reason he lost is because Maria found out about that "Jennifer" girl.
It's all a huge, intricate conspiracy. I just don't feel like digging for it right now.
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Chainsaw
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A very BAD man.
It is what it is
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 10, 2007 16:14:02 GMT -5
I thought Arn and Finlay were both high on Punk. Or am I thinking of someone else. You're thinking of Snitsky. That's right. Carry on, then.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 10, 2007 16:22:08 GMT -5
.....This is all HHH's fault! This man speaks truth! Nevermind the fact that Triple H put him over big at Survivor Series and nevermind that he called him "the future of ECW," Triple H is one dastardly evil man who buries people who have nothing to do with him, just to satisfy his own cold heart! (not attacking, just going along with the sarcasm ) As for this "hotline tip," sounds like 100% newz, smarkbait, horse manure, whatever you want to call it. These "insider" hotlines are always more rumors and just outright made-up BS than actual news.
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Post by RedSmile on Jan 10, 2007 16:27:41 GMT -5
Regardless of whether or not it's true, Holly was the wrong guy to have Punk lose to. There is no upside in Holly right now. If Punk was getting no reactions, I'd say they were justified to do whatever they'd want; but he was getting star reactions, and whether you love Punk, or hate Punk, you can't disagree that he was the one true breakout star of ECW in a sea of guys who no one cares about or whom WWE would never push. As much as I would personally hate it, Test beating Punk would have made more sense since they seem to be elevating him to a Championship match. People need to get their head out of their ass when it comes to how they feel about Punk personally, and look at it as purely a business move, since wrestling is a business. There was no value in elevating Holly. The win would be better suited to giving the rub to someone in the position to make the company money in the future. No value in elevating Holly?! Ive heard him called every name in the book around here. If the guy never wins, how can he be a credible opponent?
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 10, 2007 16:31:15 GMT -5
If this is true, good bye Punk. Was good while it lasted. I gotta say I really wanted to see you suceeded.
If this is false, f*** you PWI. Go make rumors to someone who cares.
That´s all.
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Post by Count Creepyhead on Jan 10, 2007 16:40:03 GMT -5
I was happier than a pig in shit last night.I thought, finally WWE sees this guy isn't a "Superstar".
Holly is the man and really deserves a push. If anyone has paid dues it's him, plus he can work his ass off and makes a tremendous heel.
I also loved seeing him smack Punk around.
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Joekishi
Fry's dog Seymour
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 10, 2007 16:41:22 GMT -5
I thought Arn and Finlay were both high on Punk. Or am I thinking of someone else. I thought Arn was too, and so was Foley and Steamboat. Not sure about Finlay, probably was too. Lashley was a personal project of Finlay, of course he would promote him above punk. Punk is also a midcarder, and Punk losing to a midcarder who was able to stand toe to toe with RVD, Test, Sabu, and Big Show, doesn't make Punk well punked out. Lashley had his clean losses to FIt Finlay, and now we see where Bobby Lashley is at. This will not hurt Punk at all, and is just jingofied IWC propaganda designed to make us think like they do. the media of the IWC dirt rags are so plagued with stereotypes, prejudice, and propaganda. It's like fox news.
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Post by odanobunaga on Jan 10, 2007 16:46:35 GMT -5
I was happier than a pig in crap last night.I thought, finally WWE sees this guy isn't a "Superstar". Holly is the man and really deserves a push. If anyone has paid dues it's him, plus he can work his ass off and makes a tremendous heel. I also loved seeing him smack Punk around. ... I don´t want to take nothing from Holly, but Punk´s is very over. And he did fit the WWE mold very well if you ask me.
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JMA
Hank Scorpio
Down With Capitalism!
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Post by JMA on Jan 10, 2007 16:47:39 GMT -5
I'll agree that Punk losing to Holly was counter-productive. I'm sure those that hate Punk and want to see him fail will be happy, but I really don't care about their myopic and selfish viewpoint (nor will I debate it). Holly certainly is a tough guy, but that doesn't mean he should be pushed as a main eventer or even an upper-midcarder. I don't see the fans EVER accepting as a big time player, no matter who he goes over. He's the type of wrestler that you use to get future big name players over--no more and no less.
And I still don't believe that this article is legit. I might be wrong about that, but I doubt it. Arn Anderson of all people suggesting that Lashley go over because he's huge seems wrong to me.
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Johnny Danger (Godz)
Wade Wilson
loves him some cavity searches
Lord Xeen's going to kill you.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 10, 2007 16:54:37 GMT -5
I'll agree that Punk losing to Holly was counter-productive. I'm sure those that hate Punk and want to see him fail will be happy, but I really don't care about their myopic and selfish viewpoint (nor will I debate it). Holly certainly is a tough guy, but that doesn't mean he should be pushed as a main eventer or even an upper-midcarder. I don't see the fans EVER accepting as a big time player, no matter who he goes over. He's the type of wrestler that you use to get future big name players over--no more and no less. And I still don't believe that this article is legit. I might be wrong about that, but I doubt it. Arn Anderson of all people suggesting that Lashley go over because he's huge seems wrong to me. I fail to see how disliking Punk is any more "selfish" or "myopic" than disliking Holly. Oh, thats right. "The internet" doesn't care for Holly.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 10, 2007 16:56:44 GMT -5
I'll agree that Punk losing to Holly was counter-productive. I'm sure those that hate Punk and want to see him fail will be happy, but I really don't care about their myopic and selfish viewpoint (nor will I debate it). Holly certainly is a tough guy, but that doesn't mean he should be pushed as a main eventer or even an upper-midcarder. I don't see the fans EVER accepting as a big time player, no matter who he goes over. He's the type of wrestler that you use to get future big name players over--no more and no less. And I still don't believe that this article is legit. I might be wrong about that, but I doubt it. Arn Anderson of all people suggesting that Lashley go over because he's huge seems wrong to me. I fail to see how disliking Punk is any more "selfish" or "myopic" than disliking Holly. Oh, thats right. "The internet" doesn't care for Holly. I don't care about Holly, really. *gets stuff thrown at him by Godz*
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 10, 2007 16:57:29 GMT -5
dude... people still call wrestling hotlines for news? And some guy even makes money by calling them and writing down what they say?
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Hiroshi Hase
Patti Mayonnaise
The Good Ol' Days
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 10, 2007 16:58:18 GMT -5
If they keep it up and they bury him like they did Moore (not a fan of him at all, but they did bury his ass), then WWE could get some heat for it, but it's one loss and it won't kill him, life goes on.
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