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Post by Count Creepyhead on Jan 10, 2007 17:53:51 GMT -5
What is unique about Punks look???
He's half Hardy, half Kenta. There is nothing unique about it, or him. He's just another generic Puro wannabe form the new generation of Indy workers. He's just a pill I can't swallow.
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Post by Error on Jan 10, 2007 18:23:00 GMT -5
Yawn. A guy in a feud loses a match to the other guy in that feud. Didn't he lose in the EEC? What about last week whe he didn't beat Holly? Its a feud, his first real one. He's not Goldberg (thankfully) and still has a bright future. When he loses to a returning Brooklyn Brawler cleanly, I'll think someone has it out for him.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jan 10, 2007 18:28:22 GMT -5
Bob Holly? He's still around?
/Bischoff
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on Jan 10, 2007 18:47:24 GMT -5
What I'm most interested in, is if this turns out to be true, will the same people who wanted to crucify HHH & HBK when they were rumored to be down on Punk, be as quick to do the same to a couple of internet favorites like Arn and Finley.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 10, 2007 18:55:34 GMT -5
What is unique about Punks look??? He's half Hardy, half Kenta. There is nothing unique about it, or him. He's just another generic Puro wannabe form the new generation of Indy workers. He's just a pill I can't swallow. That's ok to feel that way, if everyone else did then he wouldn't have a spot on the roster now. But he's still there, and WWE must've liked something in him, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten a contract.
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Post by normcoleman on Jan 10, 2007 19:00:51 GMT -5
I like both men.
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Post by The OP on Jan 10, 2007 19:23:07 GMT -5
I like them both too, a lot. They're probably my two favorites in ECW. I can accept the reasoning that Holly went over because they don't want a one-sided feud, because that seems wise. The thing that will be really telling is not who wins the individual matches, but who comes out on top in the feud as a whole. That person should obviously be Punk, as he is the rising star and Holly is the veteran (unless they plan to make Holly ECW champ, which is doubtful). Otherwise, it will seem like Punk is being buried, seeing how Holly was recently used to elevate another up and comer in Ken Kennedy.
Really, since the feud is still going, neither guy has been elevated over the other in any significant way. Since this report is basically a rumor, we just have to wait and see what happens.
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 10, 2007 19:24:58 GMT -5
I still dont see whats wrong with someone losing a feud. Someone ALWAYS has to lose. Does anyone remember Cena losing a feud with Undertaker? Does anyone care? Did it kill Cena's career? NO!
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 10, 2007 19:26:31 GMT -5
If it's true about Arn, then oh my god...he's turning into his "brother" (?...I think they kept changing the Andersons' relation semi-regularly) Ole! Then look for Punk to rename himself the "C.M.-Man" and start posting bitter commentaries on his website and on the WOL ;-)
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Post by Grendel on Jan 10, 2007 19:26:45 GMT -5
LOL. It's cool. Most of my friends dont like him either, but f*** them. He's technically sound, he can brawl and he looks and acts like a badass. Works for me. And Chainsaw, no matter how good your mom's lasagna is, it cant beat my Pa-pa's. No. I CHALLENGE YOU TO A LASAGNA-OFF!! ANGLEEEEEE!!!! Actually, I make a pretty damn good lasagna myself ... But I don't know if I want to join the lasagna feud ;D
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Post by The OP on Jan 10, 2007 19:27:00 GMT -5
You're right Godz, I don't remember that. I'm just saying that it seems logical to me personally that Punk should eventually come out on top in his feud with Holly. That really is all I'm saying.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Jan 10, 2007 19:28:19 GMT -5
What is unique about Punks look??? He's half Hardy, half Kenta. There is nothing unique about it, or him. He's just another generic Puro wannabe form the new generation of Indy workers. He's just a pill I can't swallow. That's ok to feel that way, if everyone else did then he wouldn't have a spot on the roster now. But he's still there, and WWE must've liked something in him, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten a contract. <Smark mode> Yeah, they liked that he wouldn't sign a TNA contract if they signed him first </Smark> ;-)
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 10, 2007 19:38:18 GMT -5
I still dont see whats wrong with someone losing a feud. Someone ALWAYS has to lose. Does anyone remember Cena losing a feud with Undertaker? Does anyone care? Did it kill Cena's career? NO! Dude...are we comparing Bob Holly to The Undertaker?There's a wee bit of a credibility gap between them. Also, Outside of his Shining Wizard and this chop combo he's only used since coming to WWE, Punk really couldn't be much less "stereotypical Puro" in his moveset. Also, You do realize that's not a legitimate gripe, correct? You can't really blame people when they're more quick to point blame at figures who they perceive to have a history of doing things they don't agree with. Given that Arn and Finlay both have histories of doing stuff that most fans DO agree with, they're granted more leeway. What's so shocking about that? Wait, I forget; we need to blame everything on dat dem dar Internets, dag-blasted series o' tubes that it is, and those confounded smarks, with their Borg-like hive mind.
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Post by TRUTH TELLER on Jan 10, 2007 19:41:00 GMT -5
I still dont see whats wrong with someone losing a feud. Someone ALWAYS has to lose. Does anyone remember Cena losing a feud with Undertaker? Does anyone care? Did it kill Cena's career? NO! Bob Holly is NO Undertaker. He's a career jobber. And that's not his fault. It's WWE's for not booking him stronger. That's the whole point. Holly was not at a level to beat Punk where it was credible. Because Holly hasn't beaten anybody since he got his sympathy push with Lesnar in 2003. His job has always been to enhance talent. If he was booked stronger leading into it, I'd have not had a problem. It's just perception. Punk doesn't look as credible losing to a guy who never wins matches. Your analogy of Cena/Taker would be more like Cena losing to , I don't know, Johnny 'the Bull' Stamboli? ;D
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 10, 2007 19:43:35 GMT -5
I still dont see whats wrong with someone losing a feud. Someone ALWAYS has to lose. Does anyone remember Cena losing a feud with Undertaker? Does anyone care? Did it kill Cena's career? NO! Bob Holly is NO Undertaker. He's a career jobber. And that's not his fault. It's WWE's for not booking him stronger. That's the whole point. Holly was not at a level to beat Punk where it was credible. Because Holly hasn't beaten anybody since he got his sympathy push with Lesnar in 2003. His job has always been to enhance talent. If he was booked stronger leading into it, I'd have not had a problem. It's just perception. Punk doesn't look as credible losing to a guy who never wins matches. Your analogy of Cena/Taker would be more like Cena losing to , I don't know, Johnny 'the Bull' Stamboli? ;D Punk isn't a superstar yet either. He's been pushed on TV for 6 months. Comparing Hardcore Holly to Stamboli is funny, as is Punk to Cena. Oh well.
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Post by The OP on Jan 10, 2007 19:43:38 GMT -5
Like I said, I'm a fan of Holly's, but that's absolutely true. If Punk loses the feud to Holly, it will seem like he's being buried, because Holly was just used to put Kennedy over. I guess that might be oversimplifying things a bit though, since Holly was recently involved in an ECW main event on PPV.
Either way, we're probably all reading too much into this.
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Post by awilhelmscreamkid on Jan 10, 2007 19:44:26 GMT -5
who cares, he lost one match big deal.
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on Jan 10, 2007 19:48:26 GMT -5
Well, yes it is legit if it turns out to be turn, and people don't criticize Arn/Finley the way the did HHH/HBK for something that was never proven.
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Jan 10, 2007 19:49:26 GMT -5
I believe none of what I read and half of what I see
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Post by Johnny Danger (Godz) on Jan 10, 2007 19:52:19 GMT -5
Holly aside, I think it is INSANE to call Punk buried when he main evented a PPV where Tommy Dreamer jobbed to a jobber, The Sandman didn't have a match, and Al Snow, Stevie Richards, CW Anderson and several others werent even booked.
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