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Post by MGH on Jan 9, 2007 22:42:27 GMT -5
Prediction:
Holly loses to someone next week and this was meaningless to him. 50/50 booking at it's finest in the "E" of course.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 9, 2007 22:43:25 GMT -5
^ Than to who? Test? Matt Striker? Daivari? Burke or Turkay? when i think of that, Holly's a much better candidate. Well the way things are going Test would have been a much better choice. I would not have minded that at all.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Jan 9, 2007 22:44:16 GMT -5
It was just one small loss, why the uproar?
Oh yeah, CM punk (The IWC GAWD!) lost - to Holly (An IWC hated bald guy "cleverly" named baldcore.)
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 9, 2007 22:45:11 GMT -5
ZOMG PUNK'S BEING BURIED!!!!111 ...Yeah, the loss was going to happen eventually. It's not believable for a guy like Punk to have a Goldberg, Umaga, or Samoa Joe-tier undefeated streak. I'm actually kinda glad he lost to Holly, otherwise it'd be a pretty boring feud. Probably would've helped if cheated to win instead of losing clean, but it wasn't a squash, so it's no biggie, especially if Punk wins out in the end. Personally, I don't subscribe to the notion that faces should never lose matches cleanly. It's a disease in the WWE. How many times can you remember a heel beating a face cleanly in the past three years? And when I say 'heel and face', I mean two evenly matched guys, not one who is much higher on the card against a midcarder, or a 'monster' character winning. It's fine to get beaten once in a while! Heels do it all the time. The whole 'I'm unbeatable except when you pull my tights / hold the ropes' thing really gets on my nerves. It takes away so much drama from matches, because you can just SENSE the screwjob finish coming.
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Post by skiller on Jan 9, 2007 22:45:52 GMT -5
Hey, it could've been much, much worse. At least Holly's one of the top heels in the brand.
If you want to talk about a bad ending to an undefeated streak, Burchill lost his first match to Road Warrior Animal, clean, on an episode of Velocity.
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Post by wrath on Jan 9, 2007 22:46:27 GMT -5
I don't think that anyone who is against Punk losing to Holly has gone all "OMGZ!!11one". Everyone seems to be very logical about it. I haven't seen any "WWE RUINS ALL! DO NOT WANT". ..So..like..quit actin like we are. ..Or I'll punch you in the kisser. >=(
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Post by MGH on Jan 9, 2007 22:47:13 GMT -5
It was just one small loss, why the uproar? Oh yeah, CM punk (The IWC GAWD!) lost - to Holly (An IWC hated bald guy "cleverly" named baldcore.) Blandcore would be more appropriate, but none the less.... I'm not pissed he lost. It was going to happen, and besides, why should anything WWE does surprise anyone? Seriously. Holly will lose next week thanks to that awesome 50/50 booking, and Punk will end up winning the feud. This will have done nothing for either of them except kill TV time. They'll both be back to where they were before.
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Post by JMA on Jan 9, 2007 22:48:34 GMT -5
Holly is already seen as being tough (and rightly so) due to the gash he received. There's no need for anyone to put him over. In fact, his sole duty right now should be to put others over. He should be getting the Sabu treatment, but since he's a WWE guy the rules are different.
Like I said, it's not worth getting upset about. In fact, I'm not even going to discuss it any more. But for the people still watching ECW after that god-awful-PPV, I hope the show isn't completely terrible.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 9, 2007 22:51:37 GMT -5
I KNEW this would be here.
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Post by ukatch on Jan 9, 2007 22:53:21 GMT -5
How did I know that 5 min after his loss that there would be a thread about it Because someone was undefeated and they lost to someone they made tap in 4 minutes.
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Post by THE Dinobot on Jan 9, 2007 22:53:48 GMT -5
Streaks are meaningless, so bleh, no one should really care.
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Post by 'Sweet n' Sour' A. A. Estrada on Jan 9, 2007 22:54:34 GMT -5
Well, thanks to WWE's 'Even Stevens' booking methods, we can be assured Punk will win next week.
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Post by Tha Kid Joker on Jan 9, 2007 22:57:14 GMT -5
It wasn't like Umaga or Joe's streak or anything where he's viewed as an unstoppable monster. He just happened to be really good and won a lot. He's still really good and will win a lot, but has a couple of losses on his record.
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Jan 9, 2007 23:09:35 GMT -5
Chill out Punk fans, he'll be fine. Jobbing to Bob Holly isn't the end of the world
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Post by joeman on Jan 9, 2007 23:09:38 GMT -5
I'm glad he lost, now he can have more interesting matches.
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Post by Tyfo on Jan 9, 2007 23:17:50 GMT -5
His streak wasnt that big of a deal anyway to me. Who'd he beat? Shannon Moore? who cares, CW Anderson? woo hoo!, Stevie Richards? Meaningless, Mike Knox? pfffff, Justin Credible? Congrats you beat a Target bag boy, Danny Doring? yawn, Kevin Thorn? eh he started jobbing before that loss.
My point is, Punk didn't beat many people of significane. So his unbeaten streak was pointless IMO. Now that he's lost it, his matches will be more interesting. No more waiting for the inevitable Punk victory. Now his matches should be more competitive and more fun to watch.
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Post by Danimal on Jan 9, 2007 23:17:57 GMT -5
Holly has been "jobber to the stars" since he came to ECW. In order to keep any credibility he needed a win like this. I'd rather have seen more push-worthy guys like Test or Thorn get that big win though.
I still find it idiotic that they never gave Shannon Moore a chance before turning him into the ECW's biggest jobber. Doing repeated promos of him being the next big thing only to constantly job him once it was apparent crowds wouldn't accept him as a face is just stupid. I'n not a big fan of his but I think he had some heel-potential and should've gotten a shot before they gave-up on him.
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Post by Joekishi on Jan 9, 2007 23:21:22 GMT -5
The other choice would be Test.
And whatever losing to test or Hardcore isn't really all that bad.
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Post by samachine on Jan 9, 2007 23:25:28 GMT -5
Why didn't Thorn get this kind of reaction when he jobbed to Dreamer?
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Post by EJS on Jan 9, 2007 23:31:29 GMT -5
Because the reaction there was more "Holy shit, Dreamer won a match?!?!?!?"
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