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Post by Dynamic Dee on Jan 10, 2007 10:35:32 GMT -5
I agree totally. I see many people say how they hate to see guys that never job but when Punk jobs they get upset. Its only one job anyway and i'm sure Punk won't become the new S.D. Jones after this. I doubt that this will hurt him in the long run. LOL - they need Holly to call him that. And I wouldn't even classify this as jobbing him out. He lost. Someone HAS to lose or else it's a match that never ends. It'll be more interesting watching him overcome the odds than having him march over everyone in his path. We've already got that happening on RAW. It definitley gives some unpredictablity to his future matches. Every wrestler needs to have some vulnerablility. Holly should brag about ending the streak and make a huge deal about it. Then Punk takes Bob on in an extreme rules match where he shows a new more "hardcore" side of his personality and gets his revenge on the veteran. There is still a good story that can be told from this.
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Post by Allison Reynolds on Jan 10, 2007 10:42:19 GMT -5
Yeah True. ^^^
Plus the fact that I like both wrestlers doesn't hurt either.
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Post by amsiraK on Jan 10, 2007 11:02:51 GMT -5
LOL - they need Holly to call him that. And I wouldn't even classify this as jobbing him out. He lost. Someone HAS to lose or else it's a match that never ends. It'll be more interesting watching him overcome the odds than having him march over everyone in his path. We've already got that happening on RAW. It definitley gives some unpredictablity to his future matches. Every wrestler needs to have some vulnerablility. Holly should brag about ending the streak and make a huge deal about it. Then Punk takes Bob on in an extreme rules match where he shows a new more "hardcore" side of his personality and gets his revenge on the veteran. There is still a good story that can be told from this. If they do it right, this could work out very well. But that's a big IF. They need to really put in some time and plot this out. It could work. Something that sounds like "Oh yeah, Tough Guy? What about (insert insane match here). You think you can take me there, Old Man?" to start with anyway.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jan 10, 2007 11:08:47 GMT -5
Maybe I am being a little harsh on Holly. He is not boring me to tears anymore and I am yet to see a story about him stiffing the young up start he is fighting. I will wait and see, I just would have rather Test end it. That would make more sense to me. But next week, they will probably have it come to a conclusion and make sense. I hope.
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Post by amsiraK on Jan 10, 2007 11:10:05 GMT -5
That is the hope. Or at least have some decent building up to a PPV. When is their next one anyway?
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Post by Dynamic Dee on Jan 10, 2007 11:12:48 GMT -5
That is the hope. Or at least have some decent building up to a PPV. When is their next one anyway? I think the next official ECW ppv is in May or June. Unless they decide to give them a gimmick match at the Rumble or Mania.
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Post by amsiraK on Jan 10, 2007 11:13:52 GMT -5
They have to. I like a long build-up as much as the next person, but that's too long. Mania, I'd bet.
I'd like to see Punk win at Mania. That'd be nice.
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Post by Dynamic Dee on Jan 10, 2007 11:16:52 GMT -5
I figure let Punk go into the Rumble match and have Holly in it as well. Have them in the ring at the same time so they can continue their little feud. One of them should cause the other's elimination which will prolong the feud into a Mania blowoff with Punk winning.
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Post by Byakugan on Jan 10, 2007 11:22:06 GMT -5
PUSH HOLLY TO THE MOOON BABY!!
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Post by #Classic Hi-Definition X on Jan 10, 2007 11:27:24 GMT -5
No surprise that this went to 8 pages.
Seriously, some of you are overreacting to this WAY too much. So Punk lost his first one-on-one match to Bob Holly. So what? He was going to have to lose eventually, and it's not like he was made to look bad or anything. Plus, it keeps the feud with Holly going.
And if you didn't want him to lose to Holly, then to who? Test? Matt Striker? Kevin Thorn?
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Post by Byakugan on Jan 10, 2007 11:34:23 GMT -5
No surprise that this went to 8 pages. Seriously, some of you are overreacting to this WAY too much. So Punk lost his first one-on-one match to Bob Holly. So what? He was going to have to lose eventually, and it's not like he was made to look bad or anything. Plus, it keeps the feud with Holly going. And if you didn't want him to lose to Holly, then to who? Test? Matt Striker? Kevin Thorn? I was shocked to come here from last night and find 8 pages WC amazes me
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 10, 2007 11:40:38 GMT -5
See, this is what I don't get. Everyone is noticing this thread has gone to 9 pages, but has anyone really reacted to it that much? I mean, all I'm seeing is people going 'You guys need to calm down' and stuff.
The question I'm asking is....who actually NEEDS to calms down?
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Post by Byakugan on Jan 10, 2007 11:52:25 GMT -5
See, this is what I don't get. Everyone is noticing this thread has gone to 9 pages, but has anyone really reacted to it that much? I mean, all I'm seeing is people going 'You guys need to calm down' and stuff. The question I'm asking is....who actually NEEDS to calms down? LOUD NOISES
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 10, 2007 11:55:24 GMT -5
I guess it makes sense if they're REALLY serious about pushing Holly.
Undefeated streaks, for all their faults, are highly effective ways of getting multiple people over, both the undefeated worker, and the one who beats them. If the Holly push isn't legit, then they wasted their chance with Punk.
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Post by Dynamic Dee on Jan 10, 2007 11:57:59 GMT -5
See, this is what I don't get. Everyone is noticing this thread has gone to 9 pages, but has anyone really reacted to it that much? I mean, all I'm seeing is people going 'You guys need to calm down' and stuff. The question I'm asking is....who actually NEEDS to calms down? Its not really a big deal that this is 9 pages. I mean its actually not a bad discussion. The orignal poster was upset about the loss and everyone else had an opinion as well. Some people think its a bad idea and some don't see it that way. It seems more actually don't think its such a bad idea. Punk is a popular wrestler on the internet so its not strange to see long threads about him. I don't think anyone needs to calm down really. I don't see anyone going crazy over it.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 10, 2007 12:14:23 GMT -5
See, this is what I don't get. Everyone is noticing this thread has gone to 9 pages, but has anyone really reacted to it that much? I mean, all I'm seeing is people going 'You guys need to calm down' and stuff. The question I'm asking is....who actually NEEDS to calms down? Preventative measures? And I understand that Punk was going to lose eventually. My issue is with the fact that he lost to Holly, and that he lost cleanly to him. Eh, No matter what I say, or whatever justification I use to express my disappointment at this, everyone will just jump down my throat. It's pointless to even worry about it. Who wants pie?
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Post by ghettooverlord on Jan 10, 2007 12:16:18 GMT -5
TAZZ BEAT KURT ANGLE LAST NIGHT! WTF NERF TAZZ THIS IS IMBALANCED
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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Jan 10, 2007 12:32:31 GMT -5
Undefeated streaks aren't just overdone ... they really get in the way of good matches, in my opinion. Every Punk match I've seen since his debut was essentially a one-sided affair, and I was getting kind of bored of it. Now at least we can have him wrestle someone where it's a matter of who will win the match, instead of when Punk will win. QFT. The only unbeaten streak that was watchable was Goldberg. Why? because he was built to look "unbeatable", and people actually brought signs showing his record (of course, WCW messed that up by fudging the numbers, but that's besides the point). Other unbeaten streaks are just left counting the days until that person is beat. It's good for Punk, and he's got enough charisma and skill that he doesn't need to be "unbeaten" to be special.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Jan 10, 2007 12:33:20 GMT -5
People are wetting themselves about a winning streak ending in a fake "sport". God, I love the internets.
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 10, 2007 12:36:27 GMT -5
People are wetting themselves about a winning streak ending in a fake "sport". God, I love the internets. We just got done saying nobody's really overreacting to this. It's a discussion, people, it's ok to showcase opinions.
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