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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 5, 2007 2:13:54 GMT -5
Y'know if Hogan had've done this at this particular point, people would be focusing on the timing of it all a LOT more... 'cos he's a backstage politician, which makes him a bad man. Whereas Flair just wants to work.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2007 2:14:59 GMT -5
Y'know if Hogan had've done this at this particular point, people would be focusing on the timing of it all a LOT more... 'cos he's a backstage politician, which makes him a bad man. Whereas Flair just wants to work. Good point. He could be exploiting the situation, but at the same time, backstage morale is sort of hurt lately. Then again, maybe he's just getting divorced again.
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Post by sebulba on Sept 5, 2007 2:17:13 GMT -5
Y'know if Hogan had've done this at this particular point, people would be focusing on the timing of it all a LOT more... 'cos he's a backstage politician, which makes him a bad man. Whereas Flair just wants to work. Good point. He could be exploiting the situation, but at the same time, backstage morale is sort of hurt lately. Then again, maybe he's just getting divorced again. You beat me to it, dude. This smacks of politicking - especially seeing as how he's always gone on about that "one last run". Maybe Triple H has abotaged him to make sure that he beats Flair's record of World Titles (Let's face it, at some point HHH will be blamed for this in some capacity.....)
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Post by kickassforumguyme on Sept 5, 2007 2:17:21 GMT -5
Flair sucks
I hope I dont see grampa around ever again. This is great news.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 5, 2007 2:18:11 GMT -5
Then again, maybe he's just getting divorced again. I hope to God he had enough sense for a pre-nup this time.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Sept 5, 2007 2:19:07 GMT -5
Y'know if Hogan had've done this at this particular point, people would be focusing on the timing of it all a LOT more... 'cos he's a backstage politician, which makes him a bad man. Whereas Flair just wants to work. Honestly, though ... when has Flair pulled the "I'm Ric Flair, dammit!" card, besides when he had the book in WCW? I mean it. I'm genuinely curious. If it's happened, it may or may not (Rajah.com) change my opinion.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2007 2:22:06 GMT -5
Y'know if Hogan had've done this at this particular point, people would be focusing on the timing of it all a LOT more... 'cos he's a backstage politician, which makes him a bad man. Whereas Flair just wants to work. Honestly, though ... when has Flair pulled the "I'm Ric Flair, dammit!" card, besides when he had the book in WCW? I mean it. I'm genuinely curious. If it's happened, it may or may not (Rajah.com) change my opinion. I don't know how often he's really had that kind of leverage, other than his booking days.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 5, 2007 2:22:55 GMT -5
Y'know if Hogan had've done this at this particular point, people would be focusing on the timing of it all a LOT more... 'cos he's a backstage politician, which makes him a bad man. Whereas Flair just wants to work. Honestly, though ... when has Flair pulled the "I'm Ric Flair, dammit!" card, besides when he had the book in WCW? I mean it. I'm genuinely curious. If it's happened, it may or may not (Rajah.com) change my opinion. The guy is clearly a smart backstage politician... sure, he's good in the ring and on the stick, but that's not good enough to keep him on and around the top of the card into his 90s.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Sept 5, 2007 2:40:50 GMT -5
Honestly, though ... when has Flair pulled the "I'm Ric Flair, dammit!" card, besides when he had the book in WCW? I mean it. I'm genuinely curious. If it's happened, it may or may not (Rajah.com) change my opinion. The guy is clearly a smart backstage politician... sure, he's good in the ring and on the stick, but that's not good enough to keep him on and around the top of the card into his 90s. Every job I've ever had, I knew when to argue, and when to kiss ass. Does choosing my battles make me eligible for the "backstage politician" label? I'm not trying to debate if Flair is better than other people as far as politics goes; I'm really more concerned with his work ethic and overness. (which seem to be the Holy Grail of the IWC.) And really, who's to say that he and HHH don't genuinely like each other? Of course I'm gonna look out for my friends; who would you rather work with? Your good friend, or Generic Douchebag #741? If you said your friend, then consider yourself a "backstage politician," just like all the other people that get IWC hate. Ric Flair is the man, and no matter how much sense your arguments might make, I will always think that. Call me smarky, call me ignorant, call me what you will ... all I can respond with is ... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Yeah, sorry. I've been drinking, and that's the best I could do. I'll be back tomorrow, I swear. And I'll have better reasoning, too!
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Post by John Oates' Moustache on Sept 5, 2007 2:41:11 GMT -5
The sad thing is, TNA would do nothing short of offer him up to his 20th world title just to jump ship I'll bet.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Sept 5, 2007 2:43:56 GMT -5
The guy is clearly a smart backstage politician... sure, he's good in the ring and on the stick, but that's not good enough to keep him on and around the top of the card into his 90s. Every job I've ever had, I knew when to argue, and when to kiss ass. Does choosing my battles make me eligible for the "backstage politician" label? I'm not trying to debate if Flair is better than other people as far as politics goes; I'm really more concerned with his work ethic and overness. (which seem to be the Holy Grail of the IWC.) And really, who's to say that he and HHH don't genuinely like each other? Of course I'm gonna look out for my friends; who would you rather work with? Your good friend, or Generic Douchebag #741? If you said your friend, then consider yourself a "backstage politician," just like all the other people that get IWC hate. Ric Flair is the man, and no matter how much sense your arguments might make, I will always think that. Call me smarky, call me ignorant, call me what you will ... all I can respond with is ... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Yeah, sorry. I've been drinking, and that's the best I could do. I'll be back tomorrow, I swear. And I'll have better reasoning, too! I'd definitely prefer working with my friends to working with some random dude, for sure. Yeah, who knows if trips and ric are really close. But if they are, who the hell cares? The man was brilliant in the ring, and while I think his work has diminished a lot in recent years, I still haven't lost respect for him.
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Post by dpg on Sept 5, 2007 3:10:52 GMT -5
Flair will probably go to TNA if his main incentive is cash, which it could be after his divorce cleaned him out. Working ROH would be good for his street cred, but he is potless, so that comes higher on the list of things to do.
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Post by Nikkie Knox on Sept 5, 2007 3:13:33 GMT -5
IF it was official, wouldn't WWE have something about it on their site by now?? I'm not going to buy this till I see something on WWE.com about him being gone. He's still on the SD roster page as well.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2007 3:14:18 GMT -5
IF it was official, wouldn't WWE have something about it on their site by now?? I'm not going to buy this till I see something on WWE.com about him being gone. He's still on the SD roster page as well. That's true, but like the report said, they may be hoping he didn't mean it.
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Post by leemir on Sept 5, 2007 3:19:12 GMT -5
Flair Vs. Sting at Bound for Glory.
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Post by Nikkie Knox on Sept 5, 2007 3:20:59 GMT -5
I read in a SD community on livejournal that the Torch reported that Flair asked for his release, but that WWE didn't grant it.
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Post by Nikkie Knox on Sept 5, 2007 3:33:04 GMT -5
Vince has a reason to be there, he owns the smurfing place That's a reason for Vince to be there. It's not a reason for him to win the ECW title and have matches with Trips, HBK, and Lashley. **claps** I agree completely. Nor does it mean that three of the most drawn out and rediculous storylines of the year *Billionaires Fued, Car Bomb Fake Death, and now this other child one* have to be the sole focus of him as well.
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Post by dpg on Sept 5, 2007 3:36:58 GMT -5
That's a reason for Vince to be there. It's not a reason for him to win the ECW title and have matches with Trips, HBK, and Lashley. **claps** I agree completely. Nor does it mean that three of the most drawn out and rediculous storylines of the year *Billionaires Fued, Car Bomb Fake Death, and now this other child one* have to be the sole focus of him as well. Right on the spot there.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Sept 5, 2007 3:39:13 GMT -5
The guy is clearly a smart backstage politician... sure, he's good in the ring and on the stick, but that's not good enough to keep him on and around the top of the card into his 90s. Every job I've ever had, I knew when to argue, and when to kiss ass. Does choosing my battles make me eligible for the "backstage politician" label? I'm not trying to debate if Flair is better than other people as far as politics goes; I'm really more concerned with his work ethic and overness. (which seem to be the Holy Grail of the IWC.) And really, who's to say that he and HHH don't genuinely like each other? Of course I'm gonna look out for my friends; who would you rather work with? Your good friend, or Generic Douchebag #741? If you said your friend, then consider yourself a "backstage politician," just like all the other people that get IWC hate. Ric Flair is the man, and no matter how much sense your arguments might make, I will always think that. Call me smarky, call me ignorant, call me what you will ... all I can respond with is ... WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Yeah, sorry. I've been drinking, and that's the best I could do. I'll be back tomorrow, I swear. And I'll have better reasoning, too! You talk like there's something wrong with being a backstage pol... I never said there was. You're stupid if you're not, because then you're likely to be trampled on, do jobs that you really shouldn't be doing, and not get the push you deserve.
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Post by Steveweiser on Sept 5, 2007 3:42:40 GMT -5
Why did this news not shock me like it may have done a few years ago?
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