Joie De Vivre
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Post by Joie De Vivre on Sept 5, 2007 20:24:45 GMT -5
They should turn this into a gimmick. Have Austin pop up in random segments and offer some 'inspirational' words. "Hey, Batista! If you win a world title match, you're the champion!" lol, I can picture his face popping up on the titantron before a Batista match doing it then immediately disappearing.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 5, 2007 20:26:40 GMT -5
He should've given them all stunners and celebrated with a few Steve-wisers, that'll get them to change
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 5, 2007 20:32:24 GMT -5
If I were Steve Austin here is what I would say. "Work on your craft. It don't matter how much s*** you've done up this point you gotta keep working on it. Just cause a pitcher makes it to MLB don't mean he is great pitcher yet. You gotta keep working. F*** the script writers. Improvise your promos if you think you can say it better and if WWE fire you just go to ROH or Japan and work your craft there till WWE admit you were right. Work your hardest to stand out any way you can. Ask yourself 'how am I different from other wrestlers? What makes me appeal? Why should they want watch me instead of someone else?'. It took me years get to 'stone cold' level. And WWE tried make me into Chilly McFreeze but did I allow that? NO! I came up with something better. Use your brains and work on your character and your in ring ability. It is your craft, and you are not master artists yet. You got a long way to go, but I see tons of you got potential be just as good as me in that ring." THat's what Austin needs be saying. Steiner and Warrior went off script. That was amazing. Sid may or may not have had a script...and well, that was amazing as well.
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Post by normcoleman on Sept 5, 2007 20:38:05 GMT -5
If I were Steve Austin here is what I would say. "Work on your craft. It don't matter how much s*** you've done up this point you gotta keep working on it. Just cause a pitcher makes it to MLB don't mean he is great pitcher yet. You gotta keep working. F*** the script writers. Improvise your promos if you think you can say it better and if WWE fire you just go to ROH or Japan and work your craft there till WWE admit you were right. Work your hardest to stand out any way you can. Ask yourself 'how am I different from other wrestlers? What makes me appeal? Why should they want watch me instead of someone else?'. It took me years get to 'stone cold' level. And WWE tried make me into Chilly McFreeze but did I allow that? NO! I came up with something better. Use your brains and work on your character and your in ring ability. It is your craft, and you are not master artists yet. You got a long way to go, but I see tons of you got potential be just as good as me in that ring." THat's what Austin needs be saying. agreed
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Post by CM Punk's Favorite Boobs on Sept 5, 2007 20:56:52 GMT -5
According to the report I read, Austin also said something along the lines of "Stop dying, it makes the company look bad" and " are you smurfing kidding me? Austin just feel like a million rungs on my ladder of coolness.
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Post by smartcenadude on Sept 5, 2007 21:01:18 GMT -5
I won't judge the man until I hear or see the words actually come from his mouth. Some of it sounds lame, but he has a right to say some controversial things, hes a legend. Anyone thats retired is always hard to hear though because they were doing it at different times.
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Post by CM Punk's Favorite Boobs on Sept 5, 2007 21:12:36 GMT -5
I won't judge the man until I hear or see the words actually come from his mouth. Some of it sounds lame, but he has a right to say some controversial things, hes a legend. I really hope you aren't referring to the 'stop dying' comment. I don't care who he is and how big of a legend, thats just not something good to say.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Sept 5, 2007 21:14:21 GMT -5
If I were Steve Austin here is what I would say. "Work on your craft. It don't matter how much s*** you've done up this point you gotta keep working on it. Just cause a pitcher makes it to MLB don't mean he is great pitcher yet. You gotta keep working. F*** the script writers. Improvise your promos if you think you can say it better and if WWE fire you just go to ROH or Japan and work your craft there till WWE admit you were right. Work your hardest to stand out any way you can. Ask yourself 'how am I different from other wrestlers? What makes me appeal? Why should they want watch me instead of someone else?'. It took me years get to 'stone cold' level. And WWE tried make me into Chilly McFreeze but did I allow that? NO! I came up with something better. Use your brains and work on your character and your in ring ability. It is your craft, and you are not master artists yet. You got a long way to go, but I see tons of you got potential be just as good as me in that ring." THat's what Austin needs be saying. Steiner and Warrior went off script. That was amazing. Sid may or may not have had a script...and well, that was amazing as well. That is, if the audience can understand what he or she is saying. In Steiner's case, IMO, he took the Shane Douglas approach in cutting promos. Don't forget that he was also protected by Hogan.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 5, 2007 21:16:53 GMT -5
Steiner and Warrior went off script. That was amazing. Sid may or may not have had a script...and well, that was amazing as well. That is, if the audience can understand what he or she is saying. In Steiner's case, IMO, he took the Shane Douglas approach in cutting promos. Don't forget that he was also protected by Hogan. What about when Hogan wasn't there for the last 8-9 months when Steiner was on top cutting promos with lude language? I'd have never heard that he was being protected by Hogan before, perhaps but WCW's management was godawful especially towards the end to where anyone could say anything on TV and get away with it.
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Post by Flying Leg Kicks on Sept 5, 2007 21:31:50 GMT -5
I thought the E already had a dress code Yep. Jean shorts, a black hat with the WWE logo on it, a black t-shirt with the WWE logo on it, and a goofy ass fanny pack above your crotch. Or you can wear a dress like Vito.
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Reverend BTY
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Post by Reverend BTY on Sept 5, 2007 21:37:11 GMT -5
1- Austin makes some good points. I don't follow every superstar around so I can't say how they dress to TV tapings. However, I think they should at the very least act and dress professionally. Not only that but I doubt you'll get fired if you deviate from the script. As long as you get the point across and don't do anything majorly stupid (for example, drop the F bomb on a live RAW) then I doubt anything besides a "What happened?" would occur.
2- Why the hell was Austin at a WWE show anyway???
3- Dying does make a company look bad. Given you can't really talk someone into not dying (from a heart attack or something of that nature) but it still is bad for PR.
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Post by Bocuma on Sept 5, 2007 21:45:20 GMT -5
The problem with the company these days is the fact that wrestlers are given no freedom to get themselves over. Most of the time they're dumped with a horrible gimmick and have no room to expand it. I actually stopped reading the thread here because you are just so completely right. Even when guys are allowed to "be themselves", they usually get caught up in pointless feuds with people that just...aren't. Add to the fact that your non in-ring time is taken up my skits and the McMahons, you don't really have much time to work on your character, even if it is just you.
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Post by smartcenadude on Sept 5, 2007 21:49:42 GMT -5
I won't judge the man until I hear or see the words actually come from his mouth. Some of it sounds lame, but he has a right to say some controversial things, hes a legend. I really hope you aren't referring to the 'stop dying' comment. I don't care who he is and how big of a legend, thats just not something good to say. Yeah, that doesn't sound like something anyone would say. Thats why i say I wont believe it till I hear it.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Sept 5, 2007 21:58:08 GMT -5
That is, if the audience can understand what he or she is saying. In Steiner's case, IMO, he took the Shane Douglas approach in cutting promos. Don't forget that he was also protected by Hogan. What about when Hogan wasn't there for the last 8-9 months when Steiner was on top cutting promos with lude language? I'd have never heard that he was being protected by Hogan before, perhaps but WCW's management was godawful especially towards the end to where anyone could say anything on TV and get away with it. If you thought JBL was bad when it comes to backstage behavior and bullying, Steiner was worse, and based on what I've read, he threatened people if he didn't get his way, and most of the time, he succeeded.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 5, 2007 21:59:30 GMT -5
What about when Hogan wasn't there for the last 8-9 months when Steiner was on top cutting promos with lude language? I'd have never heard that he was being protected by Hogan before, perhaps but WCW's management was godawful especially towards the end to where anyone could say anything on TV and get away with it. If you thought JBL was bad when it comes to backstage behavior and bullying, Steiner was worse, and based on what I've read, he threatened people if he didn't get his way, and most of the time, he succeeded. That I did hear and read about in the Death of WCW, however the incidents he did such as nearly ripping out DDP's eye, happened way after Hogan leaving WCW.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 5, 2007 22:01:23 GMT -5
1- Austin makes some good points. I don't follow every superstar around so I can't say how they dress to TV tapings. However, I think they should at the very least act and dress professionally. Not only that but I doubt you'll get fired if you deviate from the script. As long as you get the point across and don't do anything majorly stupid (for example, drop the F bomb on a live RAW) then I doubt anything besides a "What happened?" would occur. 2- Why the hell was Austin at a WWE show anyway??? 3- Dying does make a company look bad. Given you can't really talk someone into not dying (from a heart attack or something of that nature) but it still is bad for PR. As far as I know, I thought WWE had a dress code intact unless that was lifted, and I'd say from seeing some of the pics over the past 2 years whenever Raw talent would enter the building they looked a lot better than Austin. And Austin was there to be the surprise guest of Matt Hardy stunning MVP, though it would've been nice if Hardy shared in the moment with Austin, but what can you do?
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Post by molson5 on Sept 5, 2007 22:05:50 GMT -5
I just love the fact that Austin is now a crusty old man, out of touch with the wrestlers of today.
Makes me feel like I've been around a while.
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Post by Reverend BTY on Sept 5, 2007 22:14:33 GMT -5
1- Austin makes some good points. I don't follow every superstar around so I can't say how they dress to TV tapings. However, I think they should at the very least act and dress professionally. Not only that but I doubt you'll get fired if you deviate from the script. As long as you get the point across and don't do anything majorly stupid (for example, drop the F bomb on a live RAW) then I doubt anything besides a "What happened?" would occur. 2- Why the hell was Austin at a WWE show anyway??? 3- Dying does make a company look bad. Given you can't really talk someone into not dying (from a heart attack or something of that nature) but it still is bad for PR. As far as I know, I thought WWE had a dress code intact unless that was lifted, and I'd say from seeing some of the pics over the past 2 years whenever Raw talent would enter the building they looked a lot better than Austin. And Austin was there to be the surprise guest of Matt Hardy stunning MVP, though it would've been nice if Hardy shared in the moment with Austin, but what can you do? Ahhh, that's when it was. I must've missed that because I thought it meant like the past couple days or so.
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Post by jmac950 on Sept 5, 2007 22:25:27 GMT -5
Austin does have very valid points.
Perhaps the undercard is jealous of the fact guys like Austin and Foley had the balls to talk to Vince about a gimmick change while they do not.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 5, 2007 22:34:34 GMT -5
Austin does have very valid points. Perhaps the undercard is jealous of the fact guys like Austin and Foley had the balls to talk to Vince about a gimmick change while they do not. Things were a lot different back then, to approach and suggest an idea and have a better chance of it not being shut down as opposed to nowadays where it's plenty more difficult to forward ideas to Vince as you have to go through people like Johnny Ace, and possibly Stephanie McMahon, so it's not as simple as it used to be.
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