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Post by Adam Pacman Khan (akkilla) on Sept 11, 2007 16:14:52 GMT -5
I mean c'mon honestly he looks like a bigger joke then (insert mind of mecia joke here)
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Post by ghettooverlord on Sept 11, 2007 16:20:08 GMT -5
You have to realize that professional wrestling isn't all about grappling. Having an amateur wrestling background is only going to get you so far when striking comes into play. [/mark]
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Post by Loki on Sept 11, 2007 16:30:29 GMT -5
Shelton didn't get over enough with the crowd during his first IC title run, despite some upset wins against Triple H (back when defeating Triple H was a once-in-a-blue-moon task for main eventers, let alone midcarders), a feud with Jericho and solid matches.
This may have something to do with his lack of charisma. The crowd liked his matches (better, his spots) but didn't care enough about him to keep him consistently over.
WWE took notice and stopped pushing Benjamin without trying too hard to keep him where he was, because WWE don't care enough about the midcard, which is either cannon fodder for main eventers or airtime filler.
Momma Benjamin was the last attempt, but Big Momma got more over than his "son" in a matter of weeks, so she was quickly canned and Shelton was again lost in the shuffle.
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Post by jaywatts on Sept 11, 2007 16:46:03 GMT -5
I'm just waiting for Butch Reed to give him his blessing to use the "natural" nickname.
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Post by bubbles on Sept 11, 2007 16:50:28 GMT -5
I think he's more charismatic than people say, he has funny facial expressions.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 11, 2007 16:54:16 GMT -5
Amazing athletic ability can only get you so far. When he is working with a good worker like Angle or Michaels, his looks fantastic. He stole the show in the first Money in the Bank. His first match with Trips was awesome. However, on the personality and charisma front, he's just not developing. Maybe a "Natural" Butch Reed hairstyle will work, but I doubt it.
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Post by radicalbuttercup on Sept 11, 2007 16:54:45 GMT -5
Shelton didn't get over enough with the crowd during his first IC title run, despite some upset wins against Triple H (back when defeating Triple H was a once-in-a-blue-moon task for main eventers, let alone midcarders), a feud with Jericho and solid matches. This may have something to do with his lack of charisma. The crowd liked his matches (better, his spots) but didn't care enough about him to keep him consistently over. WWE took notice and stopped pushing Benjamin without trying too hard to keep him where he was, because WWE don't care enough about the midcard, which is either cannon fodder for main eventers or airtime filler. Momma Benjamin was the last attempt, but Big Momma got more over than his "son" in a matter of weeks, so she was quickly canned and Shelton was again lost in the shuffle. I thought Momma Benjamin had severe health problems, which led to her being not used anymore. I don't think Shelton is the charisma void most people make him out to be either.
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Post by Head Detective Aaron Enigma on Sept 11, 2007 18:01:50 GMT -5
Well he does look like Sisqo with the blonde hair, so that's not helping his image unless he gets some ladies in thon...oh wait Diva Search coming up problem solved.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 11, 2007 18:04:00 GMT -5
I don't think Shelton is the charisma void most people make him out to be either. He's pretty bad, but I think he could have done something with his "because Im black" gimmick. Then they threw him back with Hass like 2 weeks later
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Sept 11, 2007 18:09:52 GMT -5
Shelton didn't get over enough with the crowd during his first IC title run, despite some upset wins against Triple H (back when defeating Triple H was a once-in-a-blue-moon task for main eventers, let alone midcarders), a feud with Jericho and solid matches. This may have something to do with his lack of charisma. The crowd liked his matches (better, his spots) but didn't care enough about him to keep him consistently over. WWE took notice and stopped pushing Benjamin without trying too hard to keep him where he was, because WWE don't care enough about the midcard, which is either cannon fodder for main eventers or airtime filler. Momma Benjamin was the last attempt, but Big Momma got more over than his "son" in a matter of weeks, so she was quickly canned and Shelton was again lost in the shuffle. I thought Momma Benjamin had severe health problems, which led to her being not used anymore. As far as I know, that was just storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2007 18:12:24 GMT -5
No mic time, no promos, no wins... how is Shelton supposed to go over? Don't blame the wrestler for not getting over if he's given absolutely nothing to work with.
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Post by Mac on Sept 11, 2007 18:15:50 GMT -5
WWE would rather dictate to us WHO we should cheer for rather than let the fans decide on their own.
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Post by Josh DELUXE on Sept 11, 2007 18:28:59 GMT -5
blah blah blah glass celing
Shelton would often screw up spots and he is pretty awkward in the ring. He is much better in tags where they can hide his weaknesses.
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Post by King Bastard on Sept 11, 2007 18:43:01 GMT -5
Shelton has all the charisma of a lopped off, shriveled up testicle. That's why he's not doing shit.
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Post by wwerules60 on Sept 11, 2007 18:43:13 GMT -5
He was quite over when he got the victories over HHH in 04. Why they never continued that push baffles me, I thought Shelton would have been in the main event by now.
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Post by Loki on Sept 11, 2007 18:55:38 GMT -5
If some wins over Triple H (and obviously a feud with Evolution) in 2004, and later on a feud with Jericho are "nothing to work with", there's plenty of Superstars who wished they were given that nothing.
Shelton had his chances, but got injured short after the feud with Trips, and then failed to keep the crowd interested.
Good athlete, mediocre entertainer. He may not be a charisma void, but he's far from being interesting...
WWE stopped trying around mid-2005
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Post by nonrev on Sept 11, 2007 21:36:49 GMT -5
In the feud with Evolution they should have booked Benjamin as "Intelligently Designed" and the "Alternative to Evolution"
of course that would have probably gone over the heads of many a mark
and in all seriousness I compare Benji to Nitro both former tag team champs both IC champs Shelton became champ after being voted in by the fans, Nitro became champ just b/c he had no title since he moved to Raw/lost the tag titles both then lose the IC title a bunch of times and then are forgot about....
...until one is given out of the blue his own tv show revolving around him for months b/c of certain circumstances.
after the months of promos and victories on his own tv show and a new gimmick he finally gets some mediocre charisma.
If it worked for one why not the other?
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Post by ultimatekennedy on Sept 11, 2007 21:41:22 GMT -5
He wasn't a hit overnight thats what he did wrong, that or Hunter didn't like him.
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Post by The OP on Sept 11, 2007 21:44:05 GMT -5
It's not too late for them to do more with Shelton, especially now that they have three shows and a shrinking roster. I'm hoping he still gets more of a push. It's not like he's about to retire or anything, as far as I know.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 11, 2007 21:49:54 GMT -5
I remember marking like crazy when he beat Trips.
But, much like any other Raw face in 2004, he was immediately given very little to do to get his character over. Raw was the Evolution Variety Doublehour then, remember.
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