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Post by dpg on Sept 4, 2007 8:20:21 GMT -5
I think he's looking at it from the wrong angle here. What's more interesting about these enforcements, is the fact that they're being done because SOMEONE ELSE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, and not the WWE. The wellness programn did nothing to expose these guys, it just kicked in when a media outlet revealed what they'd done, which proves that these guys weren't scared of being uncovered by the WWE itself.
Saying well done to WWE is basically patting them on the back for their own incompetance in the past.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Sept 4, 2007 8:23:57 GMT -5
Now that I've spent some time thinking about it, I'm both understanding and pissed off that they didn't suspend Randy Orton despite his name being on the list. On the one hand I can understand why they might not have (he's the only main-eventer they have at this point on RAW that can feud with Cena, for one). On the other hand I think it sets a bad example for them to be like "Ok everybody on this list not named Randy Orton, get the smurf out of our sight for a while."
And yes the popular rumor is that he confessed this beforehand or previously served a suspension for it, of which I find both to be shaky reasons to not suspend someone. The former because he would've had to have known about the investigation before the info got released (possible), and the latter because if he was serving a suspension for it previously then how was he the only one on this list "caught" so to speak.
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Post by Paul Servo on Sept 4, 2007 9:48:29 GMT -5
Something I found funny as hell in the article that Squizz posted (bolded the key part)
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Post by jmac950 on Sept 4, 2007 13:05:06 GMT -5
I think he's looking at it from the wrong angle here. What's more interesting about these enforcements, is the fact that they're being done because SOMEONE ELSE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, and not the WWE. The wellness programn did nothing to expose these guys, it just kicked in when a media outlet revealed what they'd done, which proves that these guys weren't scared of being uncovered by the WWE itself. Saying well done to WWE is basically patting them on the back for their own incompetance in the past. Im sorry, but it's just silly to imply that the 'E should be hiring private investigators to pull a mission impossible and break into these internet pharmacy companies. The only reason why this got leaked was because of the baseball scandal, and this pharmacy got caught. It is not the 'E's fault that they did not have legal access to that information. As for Randy Orton, if he came clean about it before hand, then cudos to him. I'm fine with him not being suspended. He doesn't get a free pass, despite what the IWC may think. I think the loss of Morrison is a bigger blow than Orton anyway. Morrison was the champ, and was probably hanging onto the title for a few more months, while his new gimmick continued to grow. Orton can be replaced with another main eventer (see: H, Tripple).
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Sept 4, 2007 14:46:18 GMT -5
after all is said and done, batista will somehow still be employed.
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Post by HRH The KING on Sept 4, 2007 18:03:15 GMT -5
Very funny to see "Mr Company Line" Ken Kennedy suspended.
Hypocrisy is amusing.
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Post by MikeTX on Sept 4, 2007 18:26:58 GMT -5
Taking things in a bit of a different direction ... is it confirmed that we're talking about steroids in the case of each wrestler involved with this? Regal and Funaki don't look like they take steroids; Umaga doesn't look like he'd need to. Maybe some of these wrestlers bought painkillers without a legitimate prescription instead?
If this was already made clear earlier, then my bad.
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Post by Error on Sept 4, 2007 18:45:22 GMT -5
Taking things in a bit of a different direction ... is it confirmed that we're talking about steroids in the case of each wrestler involved with this? Regal and Funaki don't look like they take steroids; Umaga doesn't look like he'd need to. Maybe some of these wrestlers bought painkillers without a legitimate prescription instead? If this was already made clear earlier, then my bad. Some posted a list from SI of who was going and what they bought. Everyone of them was some sort of steroid. I'll see if i can find it. Here is part of it: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/08/30/wrestlers/index.htmlThe believed full list from Wrestling Observer: www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/headlines/default.asp?aID=20580
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 4, 2007 18:55:04 GMT -5
Remember, not all steroid regiments are meant to make a guy look like the Hulk. Some just are meant to heal injuries more quickly, or to even boost speed if used in certain ways.
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Post by Paul Servo on Sept 4, 2007 20:29:54 GMT -5
after all is said and done, batista will somehow still be employed. "That's my job and come this Sunday, I'll be taking it back" Remember, not all steroid regiments are meant to make a guy look like the Hulk. Some just are meant to heal injuries more quickly, or to even boost speed if used in certain ways. Good point. I was going to bring something along that line up citing personal experiences. I had to have a procedure called gammaknife radiation a couple years back and to help keep the swelling in the head down, some steroids were perscribed. Lance Armstrong also was accused of taking some for performance enhancement, but it was because of his cancer.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 4, 2007 21:47:56 GMT -5
Someone may have made this joke already, but some WWE superstars could be thinking: "Wake me up...when September ends."
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Post by MikeTX on Sept 4, 2007 23:23:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers guys ... hell, I've taken steroids because of nasal allergy issues recently. Didn't do a damn thing for my bench press, but my nose feels better now. And I'm definitely closer in physique to Regal than, say, Batista. And I hate to admit it, but because I recently moved and don't have a regular doctor, I was wondering how I could go about getting some more without a prescription. Guess the heat is on now though.
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Post by dpg on Sept 5, 2007 2:24:23 GMT -5
I think he's looking at it from the wrong angle here. What's more interesting about these enforcements, is the fact that they're being done because SOMEONE ELSE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, and not the WWE. The wellness programn did nothing to expose these guys, it just kicked in when a media outlet revealed what they'd done, which proves that these guys weren't scared of being uncovered by the WWE itself. Saying well done to WWE is basically patting them on the back for their own incompetance in the past. Im sorry, but it's just silly to imply that the 'E should be hiring private investigators to pull a mission impossible and break into these internet pharmacy companies. The only reason why this got leaked was because of the baseball scandal, and this pharmacy got caught. It is not the 'E's fault that they did not have legal access to that information. As for Randy Orton, if he came clean about it before hand, then cudos to him. I'm fine with him not being suspended. He doesn't get a free pass, despite what the IWC may think. I think the loss of Morrison is a bigger blow than Orton anyway. Morrison was the champ, and was probably hanging onto the title for a few more months, while his new gimmick continued to grow. Orton can be replaced with another main eventer (see: H, Tripple). I'm not saying they should be followed or anything, but at least some of what they were taking people have said here can be tested for. So it kinda shows that these guys knew they could be caught, but thought so little of the wellness programn they did it anyway. That plus most of this steroid mess is their own fault for making it quite plain that if you want to move up the roster you must have a buff physique, which is difficult when you spend most days travelling or wrestling, or aren't naturally built for that.
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Post by AriadosMan on Sept 5, 2007 12:25:30 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it somewhat hypocritical that Mr. Kennedy got suspended but NOT Orton...
Orton has an uncanny way of getting off on easy street
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 5, 2007 15:12:26 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it somewhat hypocritical that Mr. Kennedy got suspended but NOT Orton... Orton has an uncanny way of getting off on easy street WWE Official: Mr. Orton, I'm afraid, that since you are listed as one of the people to receive drugs from this company, I have no choice but to..... Orton: Hey! Look over there! *As the official looks away, Orton trips the official down and then knees him in the face* WWE Official: Uhh.....my head. I think I have a concussion......What was I saying? Orton: That I was getting a break this week and am scheduled to face John Cena at the PPV. WWE Official: Oh. OK.
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Post by Arthur Digby Stamp on Sept 5, 2007 15:21:18 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it somewhat hypocritical that Mr. Kennedy got suspended but NOT Orton... Orton has an uncanny way of getting off on easy street The way it looks, Orton came clean about it and already was suspended. It'd be more hypocritical to suspend him twice for the same offense while everyone else is suspended once.
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Post by smartcenadude on Sept 5, 2007 18:18:52 GMT -5
Randy Orton is a nebula rising from the black of deceiving lies.
He's a new star that's born and he will bring you the light with his hands untied.
How could you suspend him?
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Post by HRH The KING on Sept 5, 2007 19:27:39 GMT -5
Randy Orton is a Nebula class starship.
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Post by Timmy8271 on Sept 6, 2007 3:01:32 GMT -5
Orton was already suspended for the steriods. That's why he's not suspended. Plus he's feuding with Cena, and well to Vince that's more important than Cliffie boy rasing a stink.
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Post by Steveweiser on Sept 6, 2007 9:44:35 GMT -5
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