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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 6, 2007 11:48:44 GMT -5
Yeah, but I'm not sure if it counts, as it was in 2003-04, way before the policy happened.
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Post by tragicheroparade on Sept 6, 2007 16:13:17 GMT -5
Lots of people have taken steroids without really knowing it, as prescribed by their doctor. The difference is these are generally corticosteroids and not anabolic steroids.
Corticosteroids have similar effects in the short term, but they are not as apparent. You will still have increased appetite, quicker regeneration, better metabolism, but not to the extent that you would on an anabolic steroid, as their general purpose is not the same. Additionally, long-term use of corticosteroids has medically certifiable downsides such as cataracts, increased risk of cancer, diabetes, organ problems, etc, etc, etc.
Anabolic steroids do not have as deep a research history, but considering what they can do for muscle generation it is very likely that over a long period of time the misuse of anabolic steroids can be very detrimental to someone, especially someone with a predisposition to organ diseases. At the same time, they probably have similarly beneficial effects when used sparingly under adequate supervision.
People seem to forget that Vince McMahon is older than a good number of the wrestler's who have died as a result of steroid or other drug usage, and he has probably been on some form of steroids all the while. The difference here is that Vince works very closely (even when it comes to legal supplements) with personal chemists, I believe.
A good education on this stuff can go a long way in helping see to the benefits without some of the risks. Another good example might be Jose Canseco, who, while batcrap crazy, has a physique that does not belong to someone of his natural age. And a good example of going the other way was probably Jason Giambi, who while battling parasites a few years ago was ordering McDonalds every single day from the Yankees dugout and trying to counteract that by plugging extra steroid needles in his buttocks.
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Post by Steveweiser on Sept 7, 2007 6:45:39 GMT -5
Credit: PWTorch
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Post by Sir Smurf on Sept 8, 2007 11:13:30 GMT -5
Divas on steroids, whats next, Managers lying?
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 8, 2007 15:27:48 GMT -5
Go figure; for women who are expected to look unnaturally amazing all the time, fat burning illegal drugs are the new bullemia/anorexia. And with Vince, let's also not forget that Vince doesn't wrestle regularly, either, so his body will hold up better than most wrestlers. Nevertheless, let's also not forget the (admittedly hilarious) visual of Vince tearing two quads by walking.
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Post by wwefan78 on Sept 9, 2007 4:04:27 GMT -5
Booker seems to be through with WWE..
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Post by Conor*Charisma on Sept 9, 2007 12:32:52 GMT -5
Are we gonna un sticky this now...
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Post by rra on Sept 9, 2007 20:13:56 GMT -5
Booker seems to be through with WWE.. Well, if thats so, then awesome for Booker T. Not King Booker, BOOKER F****** T!
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Post by rra on Sept 9, 2007 20:14:28 GMT -5
BTW, whats the names that people seem to agree to be on the suspension list?
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Post by Error on Sept 9, 2007 20:22:25 GMT -5
BTW, whats the names that people seem to agree to be on the suspension list? Just off the top of my head: - Umaga
- Chavo
- John Morrison
- William Regal
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Sept 9, 2007 20:27:40 GMT -5
I heard he was giving the ring a shining wizard because it owed him some money
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Post by rra on Sept 9, 2007 20:33:16 GMT -5
BTW, whats the names that people seem to agree to be on the suspension list? Just off the top of my head: - Umaga
- Chavo
- John Morrison
- William Regal
Well, those 4 I remember....but are people still debating over Orton/Kennedy/others?
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Post by Error on Sept 9, 2007 20:36:08 GMT -5
Just off the top of my head: - Umaga
- Chavo
- John Morrison
- William Regal
Well, those 4 I remember....but are people still debating over Orton/Kennedy/others? Yeah. Most seem to think that Kennedy is since they said he wouldn't be the son after all the reports and hints and he'll be gone after RAW (since he wasn't on any of the overseas shows). A lot (myself included) think that Orton is the one who was already punished for this, while others don't.
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Post by rra on Sept 9, 2007 20:39:06 GMT -5
Well, those 4 I remember....but are people still debating over Orton/Kennedy/others? Yeah. Most seem to think that Kennedy is since they said he wouldn't be the son after all the reports and hints and he'll be gone after RAW (since he wasn't on any of the overseas shows). A lot (myself included) think that Orton is the one who was already punished for this, while others don't. I think Kennedy is among those suspended, but Orton....I don't know. Most would assume yes, but not necessarily...but who knows. Chris Masters is another, I'm very sure of.
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Post by macdaddysquid on Sept 10, 2007 14:05:54 GMT -5
who are these 11 guys?
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Post by Rorschach on Sept 10, 2007 17:47:11 GMT -5
Go figure; for women who are expected to look unnaturally amazing all the time, fat burning illegal drugs are the new bullemia/anorexia. And with Vince, let's also not forget that Vince doesn't wrestle regularly, either, so his body will hold up better than most wrestlers. Nevertheless, let's also not forget the (admittedly hilarious) visual of Vince tearing two quads by walking.I'm surprised more of these women aren't popping Stacker2's like candy, the scrutiny we fans and the agents backstage put them under. Jesus, Jillian Hall shows up looking a little bloated (Which may have been her period causing her to retain water) and like three different "ZOMG! JILLIAN IS TEH FATZZORS!!!" threads pop up. I really feel for these ladies, I really do. I know they chose this life, but it tis a TAD unfair, the way their looks are stressed.
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Post by leemir on Sept 10, 2007 18:59:04 GMT -5
Are they saying what substances they were banned for? Was Morrison on steroids or something else?
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Post by Error on Sept 10, 2007 19:04:20 GMT -5
Are they saying what substances they were banned for? Was Morrison on steroids or something else? They weren't suspended for something they were on, they have been suspended for buying from an online pharmacy which is against the Wellness Policy (although they all bought steroids from it).
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Post by Error on Sept 10, 2007 19:55:23 GMT -5
Sorry for the double but, this was on Gerweck:
According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the confirmed WWE suspensions include Charlie Haas, Edge, Gregory Helms, John Morrison, William Regal, Mr. Kennedy, Umaga, Funaki, Chavo Guerrero and Chris Masters. It is unclear if Masters received a 30 or 60 day suspension. Masters has a lot of heat for missing the initial face to face meeting WWE had with the original ten suspended wrestlers days after the Summerslam PPV. Edge and Helms, both out of action due to injuries, will lose 30 days of their downside guarantee pay.
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Post by kswolf on Sept 11, 2007 8:13:59 GMT -5
Sorry for the double but, this was on Gerweck: According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the confirmed WWE suspensions include Charlie Haas, Edge, Gregory Helms, John Morrison, William Regal, Mr. Kennedy, Umaga, Funaki, Chavo Guerrero and Chris Masters. It is unclear if Masters received a 30 or 60 day suspension. Masters has a lot of heat for missing the initial face to face meeting WWE had with the original ten suspended wrestlers days after the Summerslam PPV. Edge and Helms, both out of action due to injuries, will lose 30 days of their downside guarantee pay. That's only ten names. Was Booker the eleventh?
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