Undertaker as Intercontinental Champion

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Hardy seems to be doing just fine by it.

Otherwise, a good, long feud over the title would help elevate it. Kennedy would work just fine for that. But I don't know that the belt needs it.

A mini-tournament among credible midcarders like the one they ran when they first brought back the US title would help the belt, if that's the goal. At one point, before they got buried, I would've said that Carlito and Shelton would have made great contenders in a hunt involving Hardy and Kennedy as well. But again, I don't know that the belt needs it.

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jkorkie said:

redagony said:

I actually think, to increase the worth of the IC title, it needs to be defended in the Main Event on RAW. It needs to get attention.

Agreed. I think Jeff Hardy is doing a good job as the IC champ right now and if Kennedy beats him for it, it will still be in good hands. The IC belt needs three things:

1.) to be defended on a consistant and regular basis

2.) To be used as a title in which future main eventers use as a springboard and not just as a mid-card placeholder. The belt needs the right person at the right time. Warrior, Perfect, Hart, HBK, Razor, Austin, Rock, HHH, Benoit, Angle, Jericho, Guerrero and most recently Orton were perfect fits at that time and all but Perfect and Razor went on to World Title wins.

3.) A long, sustained and entertaining feud that can result in show-stealing, main event matches. Again, Hart-Perfect, Hart-HBK, Austin-HHH-Rock, Benoit-Jericho-Angle and Booker T- Christian fit the mold here.

Very good diagnosis, there. Add Warrior-Rude to the list of great rivalries leading to main event feuds, and Warrior-Macho (they somewhat fueded when Randy was WWF champion, and Warrior IC champion).

I really hope this is Jeff Hardy's break-through reign, into main event status. But I'll stick to my guns, and say Taker would really rub off well on the IC division.

[Vanilla Gorilla]

^ agreed, but to me UT would have been a better fit in the IC scene as the American Badass, not now as the Legendary Phenom Deadman.

[Branimal]

No for Taker.

2 reasons:

1) He'll be on RAW..RAW is too friggin' crowded as it is.

2) If you would like a vetern to have it..then give it to the returning Jericho, or even Micheals. I think 'Taker is just too big for that title. I always thought the same thing about Kane when he had it.

[Bishblast]

Give him the US title from MVP or Hardy, whoever ends up with it, and give him a month or so of title matches on SD, then have him lose it to some up and coming heel in what would be an incredible upset (in a great way)

So, no for the IC, yes for the US.

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branimal said:

No for Taker.

2 reasons:

1) He'll be on RAW..RAW is too friggin' crowded as it is.

2) If you would like a vertern to have it..then give it to the returning Jericho, or even Micheals. I think 'Taker is just too big for that title. I always thought the same thing about Kane when he had it.

1) Can easily be changed. The US and IC titles could switch brands. Its a simple matter of good writing....oh!
2) Can't say I disagree.

[Metalheadbanger Man]

But then it could be said that he was above the Hardcore Title but his reign was awesome and went some way to getting Maven over.

Personally I would like them to build up some sort of division - a bunch of RAW midcarders could express an interest in holding the title and a series of matches take place until one of them becomes a definite #1 contender. Then maybe have a ladder match for it on a PPV against Jeff.

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bringbackvolkoff said:

But then it could be said that he was above the Hardcore Title but his reign was awesome and went some way to getting Maven over.

That's a good point.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

coksf said:

bringbackvolkoff said:

But then it could be said that he was above the Hardcore Title but his reign was awesome and went some way to getting Maven over.

That's a good point.

To compare the Hardcore Title in anyway to the IC title is laughable. The Hardcore Title was always kind of a "joke" title. It didn't really matter who held it.

[DeuceDominoMark]

The US title is above the IC title? What the f***?? You bunch of MVP suckers, give it up! He defends the title once every 3 months. And when he does, he gets counted out and/or ducks a challenger for the next three months.

But as long we put him in a series of "funny" skits and give him another title he doesn't defend, I guess we don't notice...

[Joker]

I'm a huge mark for The Undertaker but I think that would be a bad idea.

Who was helped by him holding the Hardcore Title?

[perpetualn00b]

True, but the US title didn't go through anything near the burial the Intercontinental title did with the Umaga title reigns. The US title has consistantly been used to set up potential main eventers. The IC title has been midcard filler for way too long.

[Loki]

No thanks.

Having former multi-World Champions as IC/US Champions is a bad decision.

It'll look like a "demotion" for the Superstar, and the belt won't gain much importance.

To elevate the IC title again, they need to allow several midcarders to feud for the belt on RAW, possibly near the main event, but as a STANDALONE ANGLE, not as a consolation prize for those who couldn't make it for the WWE/WHC belt [cyber sunday...]

If they start to feature Hardy, Kennedy and some other guy for the IC title, without involving main eventers, it may work.

Back in the day, IC title contenders were almost a different roster, and nobody was moved "back" to the IC scene after having been in the main event.

[pathogen]

Alrighjt, but be careful please.

[Feargus McReddit]

I'll put it this way.

The Undertaker was once Hardcore Champion.

If he can be Hardcore Champion, he can be IC Champion.

[Joekishi]

He would be booked like he was booked in the Hardcore Division, nobody stood a chance, and they won due to outside factors

[HRH The KING]

The Undertaker, like Jake The Snake, does not need a title.

[Jaffa is behind you.]

redagony said:

I can't buy this one. Either Taker buries the midcard or Taker gets buried by the IC strap

That's the way I see it too.
ps, awesome pun if you meant it.

[John Oates' Moustache]

I see a long title reign coming Kennedy's way with the IC strap.

[erik316wttn]

curryman said:

I do agree that the IC Title needs a main eventer to help boost it's worth, but I don't think Taker is the man to do it.

It would help if IC title matches main evented Raw again like back in the day.