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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 6, 2007 15:06:40 GMT -5
As a long-time fan of the Deadman, I've always figured a few months as IC champion would do a world of good for the business and the title itself.
Sure, it would make Undertaker a triple-crown winner, and add to his storied career, but I gather that the IWC will argue "he doesn't need the rub, someone younger (and much less talented) deserves it". This is an arguement I have never understood, "He's over, doesn't need the rub". So what? Should Robert DeNiro quit making films because he's won a couple of Oscars, and give the younger actors a 'chance'? Should he make an effort to 'put them over'? Also, I didn't hear that when Flair won the IC last year.
With Undertaker as IC champion now - his influence would rub off on the title moreso than the championship's influence on the titleholder. We've complained constantly how the IC title has devalued, and we never remember who the champion is, and more importantly - it hasn't been defended at Wrestlemania.
Think about it - with Taker as champion, even with his sporadic appearances on TV, we'll know who the champion is. Moreso, we'll look forward to the IC champion defending the title. And with the Undefeated Streak AND the IC title on the line at Wrestlemania, that will easily restore the IC title's prominence.
Since we are a jaded lot, and always wonder why X rookie hasn't been given a 'rub', and was 'buried' by an HHH, think of what it will mean for some young guy to beat Taker, clean, for the IC title. It could do wonders for CM Punk, moreso than the ECW title.
Although personally, I would have loved an Undertaker IC title reign in 1995-96, when he was a higher-tier midcarder, or as the American Badass.
Your thoughts, folks and folkettes?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 6, 2007 15:07:20 GMT -5
Taker always seemed above the IC title.
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Post by RedSmile on Nov 6, 2007 15:08:40 GMT -5
I can't buy this one. Either Taker buries the midcard or Taker gets buried by the IC strap
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 6, 2007 15:09:21 GMT -5
Taker always seemed above the IC title. I think so too, like Hulk Hogan was. But so was Ric Flair, and Triple H in 2001.
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Post by Dynamite Kid on Nov 6, 2007 15:10:49 GMT -5
He's always seemed too big for it.
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Post by RedSmile on Nov 6, 2007 15:11:31 GMT -5
Taker always seemed above the IC title. I think so too, like Hulk Hogan was. But so was Ric Flair, and Triple H in 2001. The IC title shouldn't be won by monster types. IMO. It didn't really work for Kane or Umaga.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 6, 2007 15:12:58 GMT -5
I think so too, like Hulk Hogan was. But so was Ric Flair, and Triple H in 2001. The IC title shouldn't be won by monster types. IMO. It didn't really work for Kane or Umaga. I beg to differ. It did wonders for The Ultimate Warrior, who was, for all intents and purposes, a monster freak.
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Post by RedSmile on Nov 6, 2007 15:14:56 GMT -5
The IC title shouldn't be won by monster types. IMO. It didn't really work for Kane or Umaga. I beg to differ. It did wonders for The Ultimate Warrior, who was, for all intents and purposes, a monster freak. Hmmmm I forgot about good old Warrior. I think he was more freak than monster
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 6, 2007 15:14:58 GMT -5
It's like this on the prestige scale, from more to less:
-WWE Championship -World Heavyweight Championship -Undertaker in general -ECW Championship -United States Championship -Intercontinental Championship -WWE Tag Team Titles -World Tag Team Titles -Women's Championship -Cruiserweight Championship
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 6, 2007 15:15:41 GMT -5
I think it might it might be better for UT to get PO'd at the IC/US champ and get booked into title shots against him, only for the heel to squirt out with his title each time. This would allow him to work a series with someone that would legitimately elevate them.
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Post by Jared Has Been Enlightened :) on Nov 6, 2007 15:16:51 GMT -5
It's like this on the prestige scale, from more to less: -WWE Championship -World Heavyweight Championship -Undertaker in general -ECW Championship -United States Championship -Intercontinental Championship -WWE Tag Team Titles -World Tag Team Titles -Women's Championship -Cruiserweight Championship I'd probably push the ECW title below both the U.S. and I.C. titles right now, but other than that, I'll have to agree with you.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Nov 6, 2007 15:17:45 GMT -5
It's like this on the prestige scale, from more to less: -WWE Championship -World Heavyweight Championship -Undertaker in general -ECW Championship -United States Championship -Intercontinental Championship -WWE Tag Team Titles -World Tag Team Titles -Women's Championship -Cruiserweight Championship That's right. but I think an IC win by Undertaker will elevate the title's prestige, and really prime up a new main eventer - i.e. whoever beat Undertaker for it. You know how well the WWE would market that.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 6, 2007 15:22:13 GMT -5
I do agree that the IC Title needs a main eventer to help boost it's worth, but I don't think Taker is the man to do it.
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Post by RedSmile on Nov 6, 2007 15:26:40 GMT -5
I do agree that the IC Title needs a main eventer to help boost it's worth, but I don't think Taker is the man to do it. I actually think, to increase the worth of the IC title, it needs to be defended in the Main Event on RAW. It needs to get attention.
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Post by Mr. Mediocre on Nov 6, 2007 15:30:18 GMT -5
Taker always seemed above the IC title. You put it best.
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Post by Spyke the Pacers Fan on Nov 6, 2007 15:37:30 GMT -5
I can't remember the last time Jeff Hardy defended the title.
...he's still the champ, right?
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Post by BHB on Nov 6, 2007 15:39:14 GMT -5
Undertaker is far too unbeatable for any mid carder to beat for the title.
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Post by Vanilla Gorilla on Nov 6, 2007 15:41:13 GMT -5
I do agree that the IC Title needs a main eventer to help boost it's worth, but I don't think Taker is the man to do it. I actually think, to increase the worth of the IC title, it needs to be defended in the Main Event on RAW. It needs to get attention. Agreed. I think Jeff Hardy is doing a good job as the IC champ right now and if Kennedy beats him for it, it will still be in good hands. The IC belt needs three things: 1.) to be defended on a consistant and regular basis 2.) To be used as a title in which future main eventers use as a springboard and not just as a mid-card placeholder. The belt needs the right person at the right time. Warrior, Perfect, Hart, HBK, Razor, Austin, Rock, HHH, Benoit, Angle, Jericho, Guerrero and most recently Orton were perfect fits at that time and all but Perfect and Razor went on to World Title wins. 3.) A long, sustained and entertaining feud that can result in show-stealing, main event matches. Again, Hart-Perfect, Hart-HBK, Austin-HHH-Rock, Benoit-Jericho-Angle and Booker T- Christian fit the mold here.
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Post by Big L on Nov 6, 2007 15:41:44 GMT -5
Taker always seemed above the IC title. You put it best. agreed Taker is WAY above the IC title
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Post by Big L on Nov 6, 2007 15:42:06 GMT -5
I can't remember the last time Jeff Hardy defended the title. ...he's still the champ, right? indeed he is
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