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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Nov 9, 2007 9:03:17 GMT -5
I don't want to rain on all the fun being had in this thread so far, so all I'll say is that Batista/Taker was my MOTN.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Nov 9, 2007 9:30:28 GMT -5
It was a damn good match. I can understand being pumped up from the match, but you gotta wonder how Dave would feel if someone did that before his match. Notice the Undertaker didn't do that.
Not saying how Batista sounded saying it, because I wasn't there. Just seemed a bit more professional not to brag about it. That includes anyone who does it.
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on Nov 9, 2007 9:38:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry (and I don't mean to just continuously and blindly stick up for Batista) but If he really did make that comment, I wouldn't go so far as to say that it's complete bull, mabe just a tad over the line. I Mean, it may not be popular to say, but If you have an ECW event at the hammerstien ballroom (unless it's a REALLY scientific match) and there aren't any tables or fire involved, the crowd will chant "we want tables" or "we want fire". I'm not trying to justify the decision of having Big Show vs Batista at an ECW show at the hammerstien ballroom. Yeah, that's why we all booed Credible Vs. Cm Punk and The Kendrick/London Vs. FBI Dark match. Oh wait, I was there, that didn't happen. well I've never met Osama Bin Ladin, or Barry Bonds...and know they are douches
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on Nov 9, 2007 9:48:20 GMT -5
So, I just got my Oct issue of WWE magazine yesterday and theres a part where Batista talks about what it was like wrestling theUndertaker at Wrestlemana. I dont have in infront of me to quote exactly, but at one point he said something like; I probably got a lot of heat after that match because as soon as I went back stage I was yelling "Follow that!" What a douche. I dislike the guy in general. However, that was a great match. I think he can have his bragging rights. Personally, I thought the match was boring...as most Batista matches are. It was the match I was looking forward to the most to, because I wanted to see the Undertaker take his title and I was terrified of Batista breaking Taker's streak. I forget what match followed, but if it was the ECW match then that makes him even more of a douche because it was almost all of their wrestlemania debuts. I dont blame the guy for feeling good after what he felt was a good perfmonce, and its alright to be a little cocky about it I guess...but not at the expense of your peers.
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Post by cuneo77 on Nov 9, 2007 11:17:21 GMT -5
cena vs taker was good, hbk vs cena was a snoozer
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Post by MCMGM on Nov 9, 2007 11:22:48 GMT -5
Just one day, I wish the actual wrestler himself being criticized showed up in one of these threads. *Batista goes online to a message board*Batista: "Let's see. Read that thread. Read that one too. Bookmarked that one with Melina. What's this?....Another Example Of Why I Hate Batista?" *Batista begins reading, becoming enraged*Batista: "What in the hell? Who wrote this? You're gonna pay the price kid. You're gonna pay dearly. Vengence will be mine. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!" *lightning strikes outside the window*Batista: "Holy s***! I better shut those windows before it starts to rain." Rain pours down, even though Tista already washed his PT Cruiser without help. Yes, he waxed alone his PT of danger. LOL.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 9, 2007 11:26:52 GMT -5
I agree that it was a dickish thing to shout if he aimed it at the ECW guys, some of who were busting their ass back when Dave couldn't even get a job at the WCW Power Plant, but it depends how he meant it I guess. Could have been that he overwhelmed by having a great match, which I agree that it was.
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Nov 9, 2007 12:30:35 GMT -5
to be honest, if i was the world champ, and i was put on halfway through the biggest card of the year (underneath a match hwere two guys fought over an old man's hair), only to steal the show, i'd probably make a few comments as well.
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Post by Da (No Sold) 7-1-3 Itch on Nov 9, 2007 12:34:15 GMT -5
I think that's the same mag where he said: "The ECW fans booed me because they only cheer for tables, ladders and chairs" about his match with Big Show. Which is complete bull. Also bull because they cheered Angle and Punk loudly
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Post by thesunbeast on Nov 9, 2007 12:36:29 GMT -5
Alright, the thing is in the WWE, is that every match on a PPV card is meant for a certain purpose. It's not like every match, they just go out there and do what they want. If you have a popcorn match, it isn't so just because the match just "happenned" to be bad, it's because it was meant to be a popcorn match. So in real life, you don't really go out there and try to "top" the match that was before your's, you can only try to top the effort.
A wrestler saying "top that" when he comes back through the curtain is a time honored traditional statement for "We had a great match, uh?" Yes, it's a statement of challenging anyone to be able to take the fans on a greater roller-coaster ride than what you just did, but they aren't really expecting you to have a main-event type of match when you're match isn't a main event type, because you can't do that.
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Post by Red 'n' Black Reggie on Nov 9, 2007 12:40:32 GMT -5
Alright, the thing is in the WWE, is that every match on a PPV card is meant for a certain purpose. It's not like every match, they just go out there and do what they want. If you have a popcorn match, it isn't so just because the match just "happenned" to be bad, it's because it was meant to be a popcorn match. So in real life, you don't really go out there and try to "top" the match that was before your's, you can only try to top the effort. A wrestler saying "top that" when he comes back through the curtain is a time honored traditional statement for "We had a great match, uh?" Yes, it's a statement of challenging anyone to be able to take the fans on a greater roller-coaster ride than what you just did, but they aren't really expecting you to have a main-event type of match when you're match isn't a main event type, because you can't do that. they wouldn't have that problem if undertista was on last. i'm sorry to keep going back to that, but it really pissed me off that the most anticipated match of the card (for me at least) and the match of the year (ditto) was put so low on the card. this match had so much more riding on it. the streak, the belt, plus the fact that undie was the royal rumble winner. i think that's worth more than the NB vs originals match (it was OK, but by no means deserved to be as high as it was. their extreme rules match on sci fi, on the other hand...) and a hair vs hair match.
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Post by thesunbeast on Nov 9, 2007 12:55:59 GMT -5
Alright, the thing is in the WWE, is that every match on a PPV card is meant for a certain purpose. It's not like every match, they just go out there and do what they want. If you have a popcorn match, it isn't so just because the match just "happenned" to be bad, it's because it was meant to be a popcorn match. So in real life, you don't really go out there and try to "top" the match that was before your's, you can only try to top the effort. A wrestler saying "top that" when he comes back through the curtain is a time honored traditional statement for "We had a great match, uh?" Yes, it's a statement of challenging anyone to be able to take the fans on a greater roller-coaster ride than what you just did, but they aren't really expecting you to have a main-event type of match when you're match isn't a main event type, because you can't do that. they wouldn't have that problem if undertista was on last. i'm sorry to keep going back to that, but it really pissed me off that the most anticipated match of the card (for me at least) and the match of the year (ditto) was put so low on the card. this match had so much more riding on it. the streak, the belt, plus the fact that undie was the royal rumble winner. i think that's worth more than the NB vs originals match (it was OK, but by no means deserved to be as high as it was. their extreme rules match on sci fi, on the other hand...) and a hair vs hair match. Yeah but the point I was making is that the assesment that Taker/Batista being 4th and ECW/new Breed being 5th means that WWE thinks that ECW/New Breed will be better than Taker/Batista is not true at all. The thing is (and I don't want to make a really long post explaining this theory), is that ONE of the main events was going to take place halfway through the show at Wrestlemania 23, be it HBK/Cena or Taker/Batista, around the 4th match or so. There is a method to this, trust me, but the Beef that Taker/Batista had is most likely that they wanted to be the last match and have Cena/HBK be 4th, and not the other way around. They definitely were not going to have MITB,Lashley/Umaga, Batista/Taker, and HBK/Cena all in a row. Those were the 4 big money matches, but they had to spread them out, and no matter who went where on the card, the ones placed in the first match and the 4th match were not going to be happy. But the ones placed in the 6th match and the 8th match were going to be happy. But since there were two title matches, one of them was going to be the 4th match, it was just the decision of which one.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Nov 9, 2007 12:59:33 GMT -5
SunBeast is right. It's basically keeping the fans from getting bored over the night. So you pace the show accordingly. The ECW match always seemed to me to be intended as the match so people can cool down after the Taker/Tista match.
There was no way they were going on after the Hair match (which had the most press) or the Cena/Michaels match (which was given more importance). Sucks but true.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Nov 9, 2007 20:03:55 GMT -5
For some reason, I have a mental image of Batista walking out of a cubicle in the men's room, holding his nose, big doofus grin in place and grabbing the next person he sees and saying "right, follow THAT!!! Oh, but I'd give it ten minutes if I were you..."
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 9, 2007 20:52:39 GMT -5
For some reason, I have a mental image of Batista walking out of a cubicle in the men's room, holding his nose, big doofus grin in place and grabbing the next person he sees and saying "right, follow THAT!!! Oh, but I'd give it ten minutes if I were you..." Seven Layer Burritos hold grudges.
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Post by Dean-o on Nov 9, 2007 21:16:43 GMT -5
Undertaker should of had the main event. It would of made that moment 10x better then it was. I'm on Batista's side. He was feeling that the match was too low on the card.
thesunbeast has a great opinion on it as well, which makes sense from the WWE's point of view.
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