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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 19, 2007 7:22:31 GMT -5
Damn. Besides No Way Out...I don't think HBK has even won a match this year on PPV. That's true, but he hasn't been on a lot of them anyways. |
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Post by seano on Nov 19, 2007 9:03:53 GMT -5
HBK would have won the match if he put Orton in the best Submission move of all time. The STFU! More like the STH(eck)U. Such vulgarity from Mr. Michaels is not allowed these days! He found his smile in the form of God! |
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Post by The F'N Captain on Nov 19, 2007 10:31:06 GMT -5
HBK is there to put Orton over. There was very little threat of HBK walking with the belt. That being said Orton could bore a 4 year old with hyperactivity hopped up on pixie sticks.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 19, 2007 10:40:01 GMT -5
HBK needed to put over Orton. HBK doesn't need any belts or wins or anything to remain over.
Orton on the other hand...
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Post by 404error on Nov 19, 2007 12:09:15 GMT -5
So what's the ruling on spoiler alerts here? Usually people are a little more conservative with their subject titles. If it already happened (or should I say, aired on TV, since Smackdown is taped) then there are no need for spoilers anymore. I was just curious, as I checked a website for the results before coming here. But normally this board doesn't dish out spoilers like that in a subject. Unless I missed something and it happens all the time... and if it does, then screw me sideways and call me Larry. |
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Post by The OP on Nov 19, 2007 12:21:57 GMT -5
HBK is there to put Orton over. There was very little threat of HBK walking with the belt. That being said Orton could bore a 4 year old with hyperactivity hopped up on pixie sticks. He could bore her with hyperactivity while hopped up on pixie sticks? That's pretty impressive. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 12:25:25 GMT -5
I didn't see it. How was the match?
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 19, 2007 13:24:24 GMT -5
HBK has nothing to gain from a clean win over Orton.
Orton has everything to gain from a clean win over HBK.
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 19, 2007 13:29:11 GMT -5
So basically he beats 3 of the most powerful submissions in kayfabe.
...the real question is will people care now or will they still know that Randy Orton will still not be able to do anything but show complete apathy for everything everytime he walks to the ring or opens his mouth to tell us to sutcher it?
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Post by AriadosMan on Nov 19, 2007 13:31:32 GMT -5
So basically he beats 3 of the most powerful submissions in kayfabe. ...the real question is will people care now or will they still know that Randy Orton will still not be able to do anything but show complete apathy for everything everytime he walks to the ring or opens his mouth to tell us to sutcher it? Good question. |
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 19, 2007 13:35:29 GMT -5
So basically he beats 3 of the most powerful submissions in kayfabe. ...the real question is will people care now or will they still know that Randy Orton will still not be able to do anything but show complete apathy for everything everytime he walks to the ring or opens his mouth to tell us to sutcher it? Good question. Or, will Randy suddenly realize that as champion he's not supposed to be as bland as a 2x4 and actually emote? well it's been 2 months so I'm going to say no on that one but hey, surprise me. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 19, 2007 13:36:32 GMT -5
Or, will Randy suddenly realize that as champion he's not supposed to be as bland as a 2x4 and actually emote? well it's been 2 months so I'm going to say no on that one but hey, surprise me. I don't hate Orton, but I'd have to agree, I mean that interview he did yesterday was bland as f***. |
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Post by Ace Diamond on Nov 19, 2007 13:38:45 GMT -5
Or, will Randy suddenly realize that as champion he's not supposed to be as bland as a 2x4 and actually emote? well it's been 2 months so I'm going to say no on that one but hey, surprise me. I don't hate Orton, but I'd have to agree, I mean that interview he did yesterday was bland as f***. |
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Post by estrada on Nov 19, 2007 14:03:31 GMT -5
Well he busted out the submission finishers of a disgruntled ex-employee, a mistreated legend and a double murderer all in the same match. That's something to think about. Thats exactly what I was going to post. Why would they have Orton kick out of those 3 finishers and nothing else? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 14:10:57 GMT -5
So HBK is now inferior to Orton. Yeah how dare the WWE try to present their champion as the best wrestler in the company......what sort of logic is that for someone being champion kayfabe wise ;D |
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Post by MGH on Nov 19, 2007 14:12:43 GMT -5
It was a great match, Orton looked great, and Michaels lost nothing in defeat. Served its purpose if you ask me. Whether the crowd starts ... you know .... giving two damns about Orton otherwise we'll have to see.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 14:18:26 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone else feels this way, but I loved the finish.
It showed that because Michaels was hesitant for a split second, he can be hit with the RKO and beaten. This was fantastic booking, as not only does it set up a reason for another rematch, it also puts Orton and his RKO over as being really dangerous inside the ring.
First bit of good booking I've seen in Orton's title reign so far.
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Post by Palatial Regalia on Nov 19, 2007 15:26:54 GMT -5
HBK needed to put over Orton. HBK doesn't need any belts or wins or anything to remain over. Orton on the other hand... You can put Orton over as much as you want, it doesnt change the fact he blows. His only real factor is his looks, other then that he has nothing to offer.  |
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Post by Avalanche Alvarez on Nov 19, 2007 15:30:05 GMT -5
What the hell is WWE trying to make the fans think by having Orton win clean against HBK? HBK lost even after doing 3 of the best submission moves to an RKO. So HBK is now inferior to Orton. So WWE IS saying that without the Sweet Chin Music HBK is nothing... What the hell? Where do they go from here? HHH vs Orton again? Jericho is the only other option I guess. HHH v.s. Orton...then HHH v.s. Jericho. Shawn was a simple go-between to build up Orton as being credible. I still don't see Orton as a credible champion, but hey, that's just me. |
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Post by T.J. "the Crippler" Stevens on Nov 19, 2007 16:05:20 GMT -5
As long as he doesn't get his typical "return the favor" clean win (see Jannnetty, Sid, Angle, Cena, Edge, or anyone not named Hogan) it would have taken him only 9 and a half years to properly put someone over. Austin being the last. My guess is that he beats him cleanly in a non-title match tonight.
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