Miz-Wannabe
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Post by Miz-Wannabe on Nov 18, 2007 23:05:25 GMT -5
What the hell is WWE trying to make the fans think by having Orton win clean against HBK? HBK lost even after doing 3 of the best submission moves to an RKO. So HBK is now inferior to Orton. So WWE IS saying that without the Sweet Chin Music HBK is nothing... What the hell? Where do they go from here? HHH vs Orton again? Jericho is the only other option I guess.
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The OP
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by The OP on Nov 18, 2007 23:06:56 GMT -5
I don't see what sense it would've made to have HBK beat Orton. Orton is the up and coming star, so as long as HBK gave a good performance in the match (I didn't see it so I don't know) it seems logical to me.
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Post by skiller on Nov 18, 2007 23:07:05 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm not really surprised. It looks like they want to build to another Orton/Triple H feud for Wrestlemania.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 18, 2007 23:07:49 GMT -5
Well he busted out the submission finishers of a disgruntled ex-employee, a mistreated legend and a double murderer all in the same match. That's something to think about.
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Post by Dick Foley on Nov 18, 2007 23:09:14 GMT -5
WWE is trying to push Orton. Whats wrong with that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2007 23:09:29 GMT -5
they showed he would have won if he could use SCM... id say it was a good match and a good finish. Although the real story here is the submission moves he used
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pacino
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Post by pacino on Nov 18, 2007 23:20:21 GMT -5
HBK is old and should be on his last run, Orton is young and currently the champion.
Why are you so surprised by Orton going over HBK?
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Nov 18, 2007 23:26:45 GMT -5
I didn't see the match, but was it a good competitive match? If so, I am guessing that they are having HBK the veteran put over the young guy.
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Post by mrprofessionalx on Nov 18, 2007 23:28:45 GMT -5
Sucks that he lost. Up and coming star or not...Orton's still boring as hell. Taking a crap is more fun than watching Randy Orton do anything really.
WWE should give up on him and find someone else.
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Post by krazysane on Nov 18, 2007 23:30:09 GMT -5
HBK would have won the match if he put Orton in the best Submission move of all time. The STFU!
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The OP
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Post by The OP on Nov 18, 2007 23:32:39 GMT -5
Sucks that he lost. Up and coming star or not...Orton's still boring as hell. Taking a crap is more fun than watching Randy Orton do anything really. WWE should give up on him and find someone else. I respect your opinion, but I disagree. I think it's fun to watch Orton. The fact that some people find him boring only adds to it in a strange way. I think he's a good heel.
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Post by paragon on Nov 18, 2007 23:35:29 GMT -5
What the hell is WWE trying to make the fans think by having Orton win clean against HBK? That he's a viable champion and does not always need to cheat to win?
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Post by Dick Foley on Nov 18, 2007 23:35:36 GMT -5
Sucks that he lost. Up and coming star or not...Orton's still boring as hell. Taking a crap is more fun than watching Randy Orton do anything really. WWE should give up on him and find someone else. Sorry to say but, the older you get in life, taking a crap is the most fun thing you can do in a day.
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Blindkarevik
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Post by Blindkarevik on Nov 18, 2007 23:39:12 GMT -5
This honestly does nothing but build Orton up as a legitimate champion leading to Wrestlemania.
Wrestlemania world title matches can only draw when either someone is FINALLY going to get their due that year (Benoit, Mysterio, Warrior, HBK, etc,...) when a defending face champion's title is in danger (Hogan's defenses), or when a dominant heel champion may FINALLY be dethroned (HHH, Slaughter, Yokozuna)
Cena, as champion, is great because it causes a lot of those scenarios to mesh depending on what side of the fence you're on, so the WWE really didn't have to build up anything other than.. "Cena's defending at Wrestlemania.... cheer or boo whomever you like."
But with Cena out of action, the WWE REALLY needs to build up a strong dominant heel champion in Orton, as he's their best shot at a drawing RAW main event at Wrestlemania. Sure, you could turn HHH or HBK, give them the title... and have them face off at Wrestlemania.. but we've all seen that a million times and there's nothing to get excited over.
Giving Orton this win over HBK gives his title reign some much needed legitimacy.
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Post by paragon on Nov 18, 2007 23:42:11 GMT -5
Giving Orton this win over HBK gives his title reign some much needed legitimacy. Now why on earth would they want to do that when they can just put the belt on the 40-year-old guy who doesn't wrestle house shows?
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Jeff
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Post by Jeff on Nov 18, 2007 23:42:21 GMT -5
Orton is better than HBK. Thats why they had him go over.
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Post by Slim Loves Lily on Nov 18, 2007 23:45:45 GMT -5
This was a REAL fun match. Had me on the edge of my seat.
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Post by GaTechGrad on Nov 19, 2007 0:04:55 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels is an old timer and should be putting over the younger guys.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2007 0:09:36 GMT -5
The story is that he probably would have won, but since he had to pull the move back it threw him off and cost him the match.
I don't see how that makes Orton superior to HBK. It was fine though, for once the heel didn't have to hit the face in the nuts, put their feet on the ropes and hold the tights to win a match. Logical ending that doesn't hurt anyone, yet allows Orton to get some semblance of a real victory.
...And he still gets laid out after the match too by SCM anyway, heh.
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Post by -Lithium- on Nov 19, 2007 0:21:42 GMT -5
The finish couldnt have been done any more perfect. The "HBK had the chance but couldnt" thing didnt come out forced AT ALL at the end and I really thought it would. I thought they was gonna make HBK stop all over the top like, but they didnt. It was a good match with the right ending...
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