Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 21, 2007 8:29:21 GMT -5
Umm....
Can somebody tell this chick that it's just acting?
I find it funny, she'd probably kill to get a movie part were she is a dirty slut, but it's "morally degrading" to play one on TV.
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Post by gimmieabreakbrain on Nov 21, 2007 8:34:20 GMT -5
I totally hear what your saying Kristal. Now gimmie my double latte ya dumbass.
See you nowhere! Even TNA would be like "who the hell is Kristal?"
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Post by Psy on Nov 21, 2007 8:36:09 GMT -5
why is it morally degrading to play edge's girlfriend? how is that any more morally degrading than shaking your ass in bikini contests? If they were planning on making it like Edge & Lita's previous angle, it would involve 'live sex' and such. Yeah, I think those segments were more degrading than bikini contests.
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Post by fes1 on Nov 21, 2007 9:03:49 GMT -5
I guess that since she appeared in music videos and was on the "Price is Right" that appearing in the storyline with Edge was below her. Maybe she would have prefered to be having food fights with Kelly and Layla.
No one is going to judge what your character does, its called playing a role. Some of the most evil heels are great people outside the ring and so called "faces" are complete jerks.
If she does parlay this into a legitmate acting career then she made the right call. But if she goes the "Skinamax", Cam show route then shes a hypocrite.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Nov 21, 2007 9:06:01 GMT -5
Well if it's specific segments like 'live sex' that she is opposed to she could always veto those ideas. From what she's saying it was the mere concept of the angle that was degrading.
I would argue that Lita's angle itself was not degrading. It was no more than a sexed up version of any other female valet once she was with Edge. It was the unique real life situation with Lita that made fans react so negatively to her, not the angle itself. The angle with Lita was no different than the SAME angle Trish did when she dumped Jericho to go with his buddy Christian. No different. Except that it was Lita's real life situation that made fans turn against her.
So by that logic, since Kristal would not be planning on leaving Lashley for Edge in real life, she should enjoy Trish's great reputation in the long run, and not Lita's.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Nov 21, 2007 9:58:39 GMT -5
Honestly, it shocks me that people still hate Lita for what she did to Matt. Personally, I don't care. She shouldn't be vilified for something most of the roster has done at one time or another. Matt's gotten over it, the rest of us should too. Off my soapbox and back to Kristal. I would be shocked if this were the reason she was released. She wasn't hired because she was a great wrestler, so she shouldn't be too shocked when she's asked to play a vixen role. And like someone said before, Trish did far worse in her career and she was able to rise above it. Good luck to Kristal, but I think she's torched that bridge pretty nicely.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 21, 2007 10:10:17 GMT -5
So the WWE had the bright idea of turning her personal business into a public free for all. Sorry Kristal but that was Matt Hardy. He's the one that told all on his webpage. The WWE didn't tell about it, until Matt came back. Hell they were forced to turn Lita heel, because of Hardy blabbing about it. I miss Lita though. I don't miss Kristal.
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Post by MCMGM on Nov 21, 2007 10:13:41 GMT -5
Not to go off topic but that whole thing with fans turning on Lita pissed me off. I don't how anyone can get mad at her for something she did in her PERSONAL life. And Edge was also involved, but didn't get as much backlash. I think most of her *fans* were/are these Hardy teenyboppers and as soon as they found out what was going on, all hell broke loose.
I found it funny when Matt was *fired*, he was all over his messageboard, living it up with all the geeky girls. But as soon as he got re *hired* he was out of there, lol.
Good times.
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Post by Kenny Brockelstein on Nov 21, 2007 10:18:09 GMT -5
why is it morally degrading to play edge's girlfriend? how is that any more morally degrading than shaking your ass in bikini contests? I don't agree with Krystal, and I'm not defending her, but I think maybe she's just not putting her viewpoint across very eloquently. What I think she is saying is that she would be unhappy to do the 'turning-on-boyfriend-to-hook-up-with-Edge' angle. She didn't want to be portrayed as someone who would (try to) kill off her husband on the day of their marriage, or however the storyline was going to end, to hook up with Edge. Maybe that is what she objected to. If that is the case, then that's more understandable than not being prepared to be objectified as a sex object- because, like, that's what her career was built on, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Nov 21, 2007 10:24:03 GMT -5
Kristal is like one of those porn stars who refuses to kiss on-screen for 'moral reasons'.
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on Nov 21, 2007 11:03:14 GMT -5
I got news for ya Kristal...its wrestling. Its entertainment. You where a character on a TV show and so was Lita. Lita did a great job with her character and the fans hated her...which is good when you are a heel. Sure some of her real life personal issues help develop that charector...but that is also the case with some of wrestlings greatest heels (see Mr. McMahon, Edge, Ric Flair, Randy Orton, Eric Bischoff, Shawn Michales...the list can go on and on)
and for the record; Edge was a heel before the whole Lita thing...so she doesn't even know whats going on in the company she worked in...unless she was referring to Lita in the quote bellow.
"Sure that "storyline" transformed a well-loved babyface into a huge heel"
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Post by MCMGM on Nov 21, 2007 11:09:02 GMT -5
I think she was talking about Lita, cuz Edge has been heelin' for a while.
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on Nov 21, 2007 11:17:30 GMT -5
I think she was talking about Lita, cuz Edge has been heelin' for a while. I dont know...here is her full quote: "Sure that "storyline" transformed a well-loved babyface into a huge heel, but at whose expence? Look at how Trish retired…now look at how Lita retired. On the day of Lita's retirenent, the fans didn't just boo her because she had heat; they booed her because dispite all that she contributed to women's wrestling, all that they seemed to remember about her was the "slutty" vamp she played on TV. " " She says "at whose expense" then went on to explain how bad things got for Lita. I think what she was saying was that Lita helped turn Edge from a beloved babyface to a huge heel at the expense of Lita.
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Post by MCMGM on Nov 21, 2007 11:20:58 GMT -5
I think she was talking about Lita, she was already talking about here, plus like I said, Edge was already a long time heel before that happened. Last time Edge was a face was what, when he came back from his last injury?
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Post by Loki on Nov 21, 2007 11:25:33 GMT -5
Honestly, it shocks me that people still hate Lita for what she did to Matt. Personally, I don't care. She shouldn't be vilified for something most of the roster has done at one time or another. Matt's gotten over it, the rest of us should too. Oh, don't be silly Internet messageboards are shrines where we can worship and perpetuate myths and legends of pro-wrestling. Evidence, common sense, even the voice of the people involved in the stories... NOTHING will make us abjure our faith! Lita is a filthy, disgusting .... trashbag ho for what she did to Matt! Triple H sabotaged Jericho's Undisputed reign Triple H held down EVERY SINGLE GUY on the roster from 2001-2005 and still does that now Randy Savage raped Stephanie Sid crapped his pants Randy Orton poops in Divas' bags
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on Nov 21, 2007 11:26:08 GMT -5
I think she was talking about Lita, she was already talking about here, plus like I said, Edge was already a long time heel before that happened. Last time Edge was a face was what, when he came back from his last injury? Yea, I think he turned heel around Taboo Tuesday when HBK was voted a title shot over him. But my point is, I dont think Kristal is aware of this...or at least she forgets.
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Post by Kae on Nov 21, 2007 11:40:34 GMT -5
I actually agree with Krystal about Lita. She should be remembered as a pioneer of women's wrestling, but people still tend to make jokes about her being a slut and a walking carrier of STDs. She's wrong about the reasons, though. Lita's reputation had nothing to do with what happened in the ring; people are smart enough to be aware of kayfabe. She just happened to cheat on the most over guy in the company, and he got fired as a result of it and proceeded to talk about it online. That said, if Matt, Edge and Lita are past it, why the hell are we holding onto it?
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Post by Mr. Emoticon Man, TF Fan on Nov 21, 2007 11:51:39 GMT -5
Eh. Regardless of how we look at the lack of a difference between the proposed angle and bikini contests, she obviously sees a difference. And so if she's confronted with something that offends her sense of morality, however flimsy her reasoning may seem to the rest of us, then she has every right to say no to it. So bravo to her, for standing by her morals. I know I wouldn't do something that offended my sense of morality even if others didn't see a problem with it, so I'm not going to talk smack about her for doing the same.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Nov 21, 2007 11:57:36 GMT -5
I understand somewhat what Kristal is saying, but that storyline for Lita made her relevant for a few more months. If that never happened, Lita would have never been women's champion again nor would have ever been featured as much as she did. Like it or not, that situation would have screwed Lita if she had stayed face. WWE had no alternative for Lita, sadly.
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Post by iamthegamewjwf on Nov 21, 2007 12:36:55 GMT -5
Well I guess the bottom line is that being a WWE superstar is very demanding and if your not willing to satisfy all the demands that the job requires, then you cant hack it as a WWE superstar.
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