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Post by twiggy101 on Nov 21, 2007 18:05:14 GMT -5
There's a difference between showing off her bikini and getting into physical contact with other people in ways that would make her uncomfortable. What about her make out sessions with Teddy Long? Or her past music video work? She didn't have a problem being comfortable then. She can do that but, not make out with Edge? This, to me, just reeks of hypocrisy. When she was a face, she had no problem being suggestive and kissing/making out with someone but, when asked to do it and be a heel, she had a problem. I see. I guess she doesn't want to leave WWE as a heel where people are free to heckle her for being a slut. She'll probably be more physical because she is a heel with Edge. She was probably expecting to have a live sex celebration with Edge.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 21, 2007 18:14:24 GMT -5
Actually, for the record, Maria has stated that her and Punk broke up quite awhile ago (early this year) way before the Santina pairing.
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Post by DeuceDominoMark on Nov 21, 2007 18:57:58 GMT -5
I got news for ya Kristal...its wrestling. Its entertainment. You where a character on a TV show and so was Lita. Lita did a great job with her character and the fans hated her...which is good when you are a heel. Sure some of her real life personal issues help develop that charector...but that is also the case with some of wrestlings greatest heels (see Mr. McMahon, Edge, Ric Flair, Randy Orton, Eric Bischoff, Shawn Michales...the list can go on and on) I look at your screen name and notice how Trips' name is conveniently left off of your list and I LOL.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 21, 2007 19:40:40 GMT -5
why is it morally degrading to play edge's girlfriend? how is that any more morally degrading than shaking your ass in bikini contests? That's exactly what I said when she was first released. I agree. Plus as cute as she is, she's 110% replaceable. No biggie from that standpoint. Plus the Lita thing is a little erroneous, as Lita was never the same after her initial neck injury in the first place.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 21, 2007 19:42:45 GMT -5
Maybe she thought it was degrading to make out with a white guy.
Not really what I thought, but wanted to say it for giggles.
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Post by HRH The KING on Nov 21, 2007 20:20:41 GMT -5
Yeah OK Kristal. Now, shake your arse again. They booed a heel character? NO WAY!!!! Yawn. One less useless bimbo on the roster. Immediately replaced by another in the Diva Search.
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Post by JMA on Nov 21, 2007 20:37:48 GMT -5
Not to go off topic but that whole thing with fans turning on Lita pissed me off. Not me. I found it funny then and I find it funny now. Having the fans chant at her in MSG when she was doing her face schtick was great. Good times.
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Post by Desi on Nov 21, 2007 21:59:34 GMT -5
Not to go off topic but that whole thing with fans turning on Lita pissed me off. Not me. I found it funny then and I find it funny now. Having the fans chant at her in MSG when she was doing her face schtick was great. Good times. And I was there. It was even more hilarious live.* *And while I did feel sorry for Lita just a little, I can't say I didn't see it coming.
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Post by MCMGM on Nov 21, 2007 22:56:51 GMT -5
Ok, well, it's cool if you guys feel that way but I don't.
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Post by Dick Foley on Nov 21, 2007 23:05:54 GMT -5
And your 15 minutes is up. Thanks for playing!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2007 23:12:05 GMT -5
why is it morally degrading to play edge's girlfriend? how is that any more morally degrading than shaking your ass in bikini contests? That's exactly what I said when she was first released. I agree. Plus as cute as she is, she's 110% replaceable. No biggie from that standpoint. Plus the Lita thing is a little erroneous, as Lita was never the same after her initial neck injury in the first place. still even after her neck injury she still would be better than most of the divas we have today
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Post by ray3100 on Nov 21, 2007 23:34:29 GMT -5
Yeah, it's her choice for sure. It just sounds a little strange that she wouldn't have an on-screen relationship with Edge, but would jump around shaking her naked ass. Sounds like she has a look but don't touch policy. Or maybe Edge has really nasty B.O.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Nov 22, 2007 5:58:10 GMT -5
Kristal's logic here is that the storyline would have effected people's opinion of her in the same way that people turned on Lita as opposed to Trish. Both Lita and Trish did essentially the same storyline, so the general opinion of Lita and Trish is obviously not because of the storyline.
The popular opinions of Lita are due largely to what she did in real-life. And sorry, that was her own fault. She should have known full well that being a public figure, if word got out people would react to it. Hardy's response was very justified, since he was the innocent party who lost his job because of it.
Now what was being expected of Kristal in this storyline would have merely been to act a part. If she felt uncomfortable doing it, then fine. However her supposed moral reasons and logic seem pretty flimsy. So making out with Teddy Long is okay, but not Edge? So acting like a slutty whatever-she-was is okay, but a slutty valet for Edge is bad? Sorry, her logic doesn't add up.
She's trying to cast herself as the victim here, and I don't buy it. I've nothing wrong with people refusing to do things for moral reasons, but her story doesn't stack up.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 22, 2007 11:54:25 GMT -5
Hardy's response was very justified, since he was the innocent party who lost his job because of it. To a point, Totally going overboard and acting a bit like a high schooler who got dumped before the prom was a little past justified. As well as he can blame no one but himself for the whole lost job thing, as he was the one airing the dirty laundry in the first place. Besides I still say Matt might not have been entirely blameless in the whole thing. Who knows what their relationship was like prior to the end? I don't buy the 'Lita just became a slut and turned her back on innocent Matt' rationale.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 22, 2007 12:05:47 GMT -5
Hardy's response was very justified, since he was the innocent party who lost his job because of it. To a point, Totally going overboard and acting a bit like a high schooler who got dumped before the prom was a little past justified. As well as he can blame no one but himself for the whole lost job thing, as he was the one airing the dirty laundry in the first place. Besides I still say Matt might not have been entirely blameless in the whole thing. Who knows what their relationship was like prior to the end? I don't buy the 'Lita just became a slut and turned her back on innocent Matt' rationale. I think she had those tendencies long before she met Matt from what I remember hearing, so it shouldn't have been that much of a shock.
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Post by Tiiulicious on Nov 22, 2007 13:23:45 GMT -5
Hardy's response was very justified, since he was the innocent party who lost his job because of it. To a point, Totally going overboard and acting a bit like a high schooler who got dumped before the prom was a little past justified. As well as he can blame no one but himself for the whole lost job thing, as he was the one airing the dirty laundry in the first place. Besides I still say Matt might not have been entirely blameless in the whole thing. Who knows what their relationship was like prior to the end? I don't buy the 'Lita just became a slut and turned her back on innocent Matt' rationale. I think Matt totally right to tell people what she did. They had been together for 6 freaking years, I don't think there would be a person alive who wouldn't get upset if their significant other started bed hopping with one of your best friends. Lita couldn't keep her legs closed and didn't even had the decency to break up with Matt beforing whoring it with Edge. I can tell you from personal experience that hell hath no fury like the rage of the betrayed: when I found out that my ex boyfriend had slept with a cheep skank, I cut the crotch out of every single pair of pants he owned, so I can uderstand and appreaciate Matt letting everyone know what had happened.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Nov 22, 2007 13:33:11 GMT -5
Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but there is a difference between "understandable" and "justified". It may be understandable that Matt got revenge by making their dirty laundry public, but it wasn't justified. Revenge is certainly an understandable action when one gets their heart broken. However if my boyfriend were to cheat and I responded by e-mailing all the dirty details of what happened to his friends, family, co-workers, bosses and clients, that would just be overkill. When you are in a professional setting, you have to keep your emotions in check for the sake of your job. But as I said before, Matt is over it. They are still friends and he's had nothing but nice things to say about her since that whole thing blew over. So I think we can forgive her now. I mean, its not like she's the only cheater in the history of pro wrestling.
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Post by fg76 on Nov 22, 2007 14:25:13 GMT -5
I'm not sure how to react to this one. Kristal Marshall was the good looking black chick, right? I mean some of us would see a difference in shaking your naked ass, and agreeing to "hump" a man on-camera. Then again Kristal may have been insecure enough to cheat on Lashley or whoever her current boyfriend is and tried to stay loyal and pure to herself.
Either way, Lita was a slut even before the Edge/Matt Hardy fiasco and trailer park trash to boot.
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Post by SWH - Shane Hero on Nov 23, 2007 8:57:09 GMT -5
Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but there is a difference between "understandable" and "justified". It may be understandable that Matt got revenge by making their dirty laundry public, but it wasn't justified. I believe that sort of thing is justified. Lets break it down here: Lita was dishonest and cheated on Matt with one of his best friends. All Matt does is then let it be known exactly what happened. Now it's up to the rest of the world as to how they take that information. Most decent people will agree what Lita did was disgraceful. I'd say that about anyone regardless of their fame. What Matt did was justified. He told the world the truth of the situation. It's better than rumors flying about, and perhaps negatively effecting Matt's reputation. And Matt wasn't released for spreading that info. He was let go because of fears about how it would impact the backstage morale. And WWE saw it as a better decision to lose Matt, rather than Edge and Lita (Especially since Edge was higher on the card at the time) and Matt just lost a simple numbers game.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Nov 23, 2007 9:00:24 GMT -5
Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but there is a difference between "understandable" and "justified". It may be understandable that Matt got revenge by making their dirty laundry public, but it wasn't justified. I believe that sort of thing is justified. Lets break it down here: Lita was dishonest and cheated on Matt with one of his best friends. All Matt does is then let it be known exactly what happened. Now it's up to the rest of the world as to how they take that information. Most decent people will agree what Lita did was disgraceful. I'd say that about anyone regardless of their fame. What Matt did was justified. He told the world the truth of the situation. It's better than rumors flying about, and perhaps negatively effecting Matt's reputation. And Matt wasn't released for spreading that info. He was let go because of fears about how it would impact the backstage morale. And WWE saw it as a better decision to lose Matt, rather than Edge and Lita (Especially since Edge was higher on the card at the time) and Matt just lost a simple numbers game. Isn't it up to how Matt takes it as well? He didn't have to tell everyone about what happened, he chose to do that. I understand his point of view, but I don't think it was justified.
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