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Post by Tapout on Nov 28, 2007 2:27:17 GMT -5
RVD would be an amazing figurehead for the company if given free reign to be himself. Why they never let him work his Marijuana use into his character, I'll never know. He could have been the polar opposite to every steroid raging alpha male. He could have drawn in a new demographic of fans who could relate to his unique (as far as on air goes)views and attitude. But alas, we get another robot with a blank stare and monotone voice...They sure know how to relate to the majority don't they? A pothead botch-monster who shoots his mouth off all the time would be an amazing figurehead for the company? Not in real world, maybe in bizarro-world. Regardless of how much people like the guy, he proved that he was a whiner and had no sense of restraint when it came to talking to reporters or the public. You don't put that kind of guy on top of a company that's trying to shed its image of a drug-dealing murder factory.
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Post by spec on Nov 28, 2007 2:39:45 GMT -5
I found it amusing he got punished for pot when they deliberately filled SvR06 with pot jokes. And of course the "No one gets higher" t-shirt. Its so ridiculous and hypocritical with the history of bad taste and controversey that WWE even cares about the image of its champion.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 28, 2007 2:40:03 GMT -5
well yeah rather than book to the stoner minority, since you know most of us aren't stoners, see no benefits in marijuana use no real statistical data beyond the glaucoma, and well it's a bad habit. Just as bad and addictive as tobacco. But hey who am I to judge what somebody does. I'll tell you who you are, someone who knows less about marijuana than the average grandmother.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 28, 2007 2:43:09 GMT -5
I found it amusing he got punished for pot when they deliberately filled SvR06 with pot jokes. And of course the "No one gets higher" t-shirt. Its so ridiculous and hypocritical with the history of bad taste and controversey that WWE even cares about the image of its champion. Ridiculous, yes. Hypocritical? Wouldn't really go that far. I think they were madder about the speeding ticket leading to court. They could really care less that he smokes pot, or it would of been an issue before. Fact is, WWE took a risk on him, and he let them down.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Nov 28, 2007 2:48:57 GMT -5
I found it amusing he got punished for pot when they deliberately filled SvR06 with pot jokes. Exactly. I kinda figured they were cool with it to a certain extent. I mean, did u guys not see his character in ECW?
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 28, 2007 2:52:14 GMT -5
I found it amusing he got punished for pot when they deliberately filled SvR06 with pot jokes. Exactly. I kinda figured they were cool with it to a certain extent. I mean, did u guys not see his character in ECW? I think they were just pissed he got busted. When he was smoking pot and staying out of trouble, it wasn't a big deal with them. How about Cena's rap in Sv06? "rolls thundering home smoke" "You smoke trees, I break knees!"
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Post by Joekishi on Nov 28, 2007 2:56:46 GMT -5
well yeah rather than book to the stoner minority, since you know most of us aren't stoners, see no benefits in marijuana use no real statistical data beyond the glaucoma, and well it's a bad habit. Just as bad and addictive as tobacco. But hey who am I to judge what somebody does. I'll tell you who you are, someone who knows less about marijuana than the average grandmother. Tell me really what benefits beyond glaucoma does Marijuana have? I mean it's smoking and well what did Bob Marley die of? Eheh, taking the stance of you know RESPONSIBLE parents and individuals, and WWE being a company that takes into consideratino a broad audience most of which consist of children. Promoting drug use through a character would be horrible. I know I know double standard when they promoted an angry alcoholic like Stone Cold.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 28, 2007 3:05:01 GMT -5
I'll tell you who you are, someone who knows less about marijuana than the average grandmother. Tell me really what benefits beyond glaucoma does Marijuana have? I mean it's smoking and well what did Bob Marley die of? Eheh, taking the stance of you know RESPONSIBLE parents and individuals, and WWE being a company that takes into consideratino a broad audience most of which consist of children. Promoting drug use through a character would be horrible. I know I know double standard when they promoted an angry alcoholic like Stone Cold. Bob Marley died of cancer which originated in the skin of his big toe. I'm focusing on your "just as bad and addictive as cigarettes" thing, which was wrong.
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Post by spec on Nov 28, 2007 3:09:02 GMT -5
And of course the "No one gets higher" t-shirt. Its so ridiculous and hypocritical with the history of bad taste and controversey that WWE even cares about the image of its champion. Ridiculous, yes. Hypocritical? Wouldn't really go that far. I think they were madder about the speeding ticket leading to court. They could really care less that he smokes pot, or it would of been an issue before. Fact is, WWE took a risk on him, and he let them down. Hypocritical because steroid-enhanced physiques were encouraged in order to reach championship status. Yeah it was probably more the fact he got busted than anything else, but Vince has never seemed to care about bad publicity and indeed has often courted and welcomed it. They could've and should've turned him into the rebel champ. Perfect for ECW if not both titles.
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Post by Hurbster on Nov 28, 2007 3:27:08 GMT -5
Fact is he was stupid enough to get busted in public. End of.
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Post by spec on Nov 28, 2007 3:45:53 GMT -5
In the past they've expertly worked real-life occurances into storylines. They botched.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 28, 2007 3:48:08 GMT -5
In the past they've expertly worked real-life occurances into storylines. They botched. That's how I've felt. They bitched out way too quickly over something that one day's worth of patience would have shown was not a big deal to anybody.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 28, 2007 3:51:37 GMT -5
In the past they've expertly worked real-life occurances into storylines. They botched. In the past, it wasn't the world champion.
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Nov 28, 2007 3:56:33 GMT -5
Still seems like it could've been salvaged to me, instead of just cheesing RVD out of both titles. I can understand both sides of the argument though.
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Post by spec on Nov 28, 2007 4:10:48 GMT -5
In the past they've expertly worked real-life occurances into storylines. They botched. In the past, it wasn't the world champion. Should've been the first time it was. Revolutionary and innovative. Huge missed opportunity.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 28, 2007 4:51:53 GMT -5
In the past, it wasn't the world champion. Should've been the first time it was. Revolutionary and innovative. Huge missed opportunity. Still, you've got to see where they're coming from. The made light of Ric Flair's road rage and all that, but he wasn't the man representing the company. Could they of salvaged it? Probably. But I can see why they'd like to seperate themselves from it, especially since I don't think they'd even been to court yet, so they didn't know how serious the penalty might be.
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Post by spec on Nov 28, 2007 5:27:57 GMT -5
Should've been the first time it was. Revolutionary and innovative. Huge missed opportunity. Still, you've got to see where they're coming from. The made light of Ric Flair's road rage and all that, but he wasn't the man representing the company. Could they of salvaged it? Probably. But I can see why they'd like to seperate themselves from it, especially since I don't think they'd even been to court yet, so they didn't know how serious the penalty might be. Surely all wrestlers represent the company, especially a high-profile, respected veteran and former champion like Flair. And as the company's owner, Vince is just as much a representative as the champion and he exposes himself on national tv and publicly humiliates employees in a lewd manner under the pretense of kayfabe.
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Post by Baixo Astral on Nov 28, 2007 5:31:01 GMT -5
RVD's status?
Overrated.
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Post by Just "Dan" is Fine, Thank You on Nov 28, 2007 5:39:00 GMT -5
You're a mod, and I assume that means you're supposed to set a positive example for posters. So, what do you mean by overrated?
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 28, 2007 8:24:56 GMT -5
RVD status?
High as a friggin' kite man.
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